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sab demage , melle physical or range ?Follow

#1 May 13 2011 at 8:40 PM Rating: Decent
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Im sorta new to sab rogue and im loving it, it suggests that you pair up with riftstalker and ranger . Although ive been using SAb/SIN/NB .

my question is , is it considered a range weapon or physical melee.

any comment would be nice.
#2 May 14 2011 at 7:32 PM Rating: Default
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typically a sab rogue will be considered range dps... although i believe dmg scales based off of melee weapons.
you should typically stay at range for most of the fight ... if it can be helped.
#3 May 16 2011 at 9:46 AM Rating: Good
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Technically it's a melee soul - you auto attack at melee. That being said, it is pretty much equally effective at range, and with ranger subbed might even auto attack at range.
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#4 May 16 2011 at 12:33 PM Rating: Default
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... auto attack is a poor determiner of dmg type >.>

lets look at the souls trion suggest it be paired with... ranger and riftstalker... a ranged dps and a soul that can teleport .... ya pretty sure its ranged dps.

and if you want to auto attack with your ranged weapon just put it on your hot bar and click the button.


The soul even has talents the boost range... jesus...

if you run sab... your ranged dps
#5 May 16 2011 at 8:14 PM Rating: Default
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Riftstalker is straight melee, regardless of whether or not they can teleport. Basically Sab falls somewhere in between - it's not strictly ranged. Why the need to label it so definitively? Do what works, no one's tying your hands here, or punishing you for coloring outside the lines.
#6 May 16 2011 at 8:22 PM Rating: Default
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... no ranged dps is strictly range... except maybe ranger builds (since marks can fire at point blank range)

dps has always been seperated into 2 classes
ranged - those that CAN do full or most dps at range
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melee - those that can not do most of their dps at range

by these standards... the sabe soul if used for dps is a ranged soul.
#7 May 17 2011 at 7:48 AM Rating: Good
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TheRocky wrote:
... no ranged dps is strictly range... except maybe ranger builds (since marks can fire at point blank range)

dps has always been seperated into 2 classes
ranged - those that CAN do full or most dps at range
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melee - those that can not do most of their dps at range

by these standards... the sabe soul if used for dps is a ranged soul.


Actually, there's a ranger build out there that's pure melee and for a while was the top raiding spec. As was already said, there's just no need to limit yourself to labels that clearly don't apply. If you can be equally effective at ranged or melee, then obviously you're both.
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#8 May 17 2011 at 9:12 AM Rating: Default
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the label is there for a reason, and i really dont want to explain it so figure it out yourself.

casters can do their dps at melee range, but you dont call them melee.

if the guy sticks to the sab tree for his dps (which most sab rogues do),

than he QUALIFIES (because yes its a GOOD thing) as ranged dps.

The guy asked... is sab ranged or melee... the answer is ranged... all sab specific dps can and probably should be done at range

#9 May 17 2011 at 11:29 AM Rating: Good
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However you spec sab you always have ranger or marks as the 2 point or 0 point soul. It forces your charge damage to be based off your ranged weapon which will have a higher dps to an equal ilevel dagger.

Also, if you do spec correctly for end game dps you will be in melee at all times because of the use of poison and weapon enchantment procs. That being said, the highest dps sabo spec at the moment even includes using bladedancer's Deadly Strike finisher.

So, TheRocky I have to ask you. Do you know anything about this game?
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#10 May 17 2011 at 12:00 PM Rating: Good
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casters can do their dps at melee range, but you dont call them melee.


Correct, because they're still exclusively using ranged skills and don't gain any dps by going melee.

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if the guy sticks to the sab tree for his dps (which most sab rogues do),


You must know different sab rogues than I do, because the sab rogues I know will throw in melee finishers occasionally (through use of annihilation bomb first to detonate spike charges) to get an extra 1.5-2k damage every so often while in melee.

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than he QUALIFIES (because yes its a GOOD thing) as ranged dps.


Yes, and he also qualifies as melee dps if he's doing what I described above.

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The guy asked... is sab ranged or melee... the answer is ranged... all sab specific dps can and probably should be done at range



I will concede your point that pure sab can easily be classified as a ranged dps soul. However, since the OP has been using sab/sin/nb (a good combination imo), I assumed he was asking about effective sab builds, not just the sab soul, in which case a sab in melee will do more dps than a sab that is staying ranged.
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#11 May 17 2011 at 12:02 PM Rating: Default
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yes i do know alot about this game....

the guy didnt ask about builds.. he asked about the soul

IF (as i have said before) IF
he runs with sab as his source of dps... he is ranged...

IF
he runs with some hybrid that relies on skills outside of sab... than he is w/e

the sab soul ... by itself... is ranged dps... w/e he combines it with may change that
#12 May 17 2011 at 2:18 PM Rating: Good
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TheRocky wrote:
all sab specific dps can and probably should be done at range


You still claim to know a lot about the game?
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#13 May 18 2011 at 1:48 PM Rating: Decent
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lol alright so many responses. I was acctuly asking because of killing focus out of the ranger tree.haha. so that i would go 7 ( ATK power buff) on ranger and not assasin.
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