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#152 Jul 12 2013 at 8:18 PM Rating: Good
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Shaowstrike the Shady wrote:
So doing 5 community votes gets you one summer card, and according to the message I got voting a sixth time gets you another. Maybe it will be easy to farm cards from this event.


It's every 3 votes that get you one card. Which comes out to one every 24 hours if I don't fail at math, as long as you vote each flash sale.
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#153 Jul 13 2013 at 4:06 AM Rating: Good
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As long as it isn't Tropico, I'll be happy.


Did the entire Steam community collectively take drugs that make them incredibly stupid?

Tropico is the daily/weekend deal on Steam at least once a month.
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#154 Jul 13 2013 at 4:23 AM Rating: Good
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My first summer sale card... Skyrim (Foil).
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#155 Jul 13 2013 at 5:30 AM Rating: Good
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Grats. I haven't gotten a foil yet.
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#156 Jul 13 2013 at 6:55 AM Rating: Good
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It's Tropico.
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#157 Jul 13 2013 at 7:29 AM Rating: Good
It's come to my attention the community as a whole, is an idiot Smiley: bah Guess I'll start voting for the lulz instead of what I want.
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#158 Jul 13 2013 at 7:51 AM Rating: Good
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But seriously.

Tropico is on sale all the **** time. And it's in bundles all the **** time.
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#159 Jul 13 2013 at 7:52 AM Rating: Good
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idiggory, King of Bards wrote:
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As long as it isn't Tropico, I'll be happy.


Did the entire Steam community collectively take drugs that make them incredibly stupid?

Tropico is the daily/weekend deal on Steam at least once a month.
Probably people who have everything already and are voting on it for **** and giggles.
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#160 Jul 13 2013 at 7:55 AM Rating: Good
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I'm guessing people saw 80% on a $30 game and just picked that one compared to the two indie games.

If they had actually heard of the game, and wanted it, it would be shocking if they didn't already have it at this point.
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I might have voted for Tropico. Don't remember.

The system incentivizes voting by offering a reward but fails to incentivize giving a **** what I pick by throwing up three potential sales that I don't care about.
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#162 Jul 13 2013 at 9:42 AM Rating: Good
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idiggory, King of Bards wrote:
idiggory, King of Bards wrote:
As long as it isn't Tropico, I'll be happy.


Did the entire Steam community collectively take drugs that make them incredibly stupid?

Tropico is the daily/weekend deal on Steam at least once a month.

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I might have voted for Tropico. Don't remember.

The system incentivizes voting by offering a reward but fails to incentivize giving a sh*t what I pick by throwing up three potential sales that I don't care about.
I too don't remember what I voted for. I would say though that my case is frownworthy because it wasn't so much "don't give a sh't" as I didn't know anything about the other two and was too lazy to go internetz them.

Just throw up a post saying which you prefer and if I don't have a preference I'll vote yours.

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#163 Jul 13 2013 at 9:46 AM Rating: Good
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Ha, thanks, but I'm not going to inconvenience anyone over one vote. Smiley: tongue

Honestly, if the sales continue to be this sh*tty, it's not going to matter either way.

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Hitman won. Good thing, because the other two sales are just repeats.

Edited, Jul 13th 2013 12:48pm by idiggory
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#164 Jul 13 2013 at 11:09 AM Rating: Good
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This daily deal is the least impressive so far. Most noteworthy part is Tomb Raider for $25, and it was $15 on Amazon yesterday.

I'm somewhat interested in the RPG Maker, but not at $35.

And at least one of those (Witcher 2) has been on sale this entire time; it's not a daily deal at all.

I only know of what one of the voting games is (Universe Sandbox), and don't particularly care about any of them.

Steam, I am not impressed.
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#165 Jul 13 2013 at 11:35 AM Rating: Good
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This daily deal is the least impressive so far. Most noteworthy part is Tomb Raider for $25, and it was $15 on Amazon yesterday.



Smiley: dubious I just got it for $12.49 on Steam... (well ok $14.49 cause I got the upgraded edition) but still...
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#166 Jul 13 2013 at 12:20 PM Rating: Good
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idiggory, King of Bards wrote:
This daily deal is the least impressive so far. Most noteworthy part is Tomb Raider for $25, and it was $15 on Amazon yesterday.



Smiley: dubious I just got it for $12.49 on Steam... (well ok $14.49 cause I got the upgraded edition) but still...


That's DEFINITELY some kind of ninja edit on Steam's part. Actually, looking at the other contentious prices, what seems to be the case is that the Summer Sale page updated with the new games, but didn't update with the new prices (hence the $35 on the RPG maker). Everything's much better now.
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#167 Jul 13 2013 at 12:31 PM Rating: Good
Tomb Raider is definitely worth 12 bux. I enjoyed it more than I expected, it's very pretty and gritty at the same time.
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#168 Jul 13 2013 at 12:38 PM Rating: Good
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The single player DLC for Tomb Raider is bundled together as the "Adventure Pack", and it's $1.75 for 5 "gameplay enhancement" item and 3 skins.
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#169 Jul 13 2013 at 12:59 PM Rating: Good
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I picked up Tomb Raider. Yup, I broke my Steam Summer Sale 2013 seal.
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#170 Jul 13 2013 at 2:15 PM Rating: Good
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The single player DLC for Tomb Raider is bundled together as the "Adventure Pack", and it's $1.75 for 5 "gameplay enhancement" item and 3 skins.

Do you have a link to that? I can't find it.
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#171 Jul 13 2013 at 2:16 PM Rating: Good
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Shaowstrike the Shady wrote:
The single player DLC for Tomb Raider is bundled together as the "Adventure Pack", and it's $1.75 for 5 "gameplay enhancement" item and 3 skins.

Do you have a link to that? I can't find it.


Click on one of the single player DLC, and before you hit "Add to Cart" on the next screen you'll see the Adventure Pack below it.

http://store.steampowered.com/sub/28255/

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#172 Jul 13 2013 at 2:33 PM Rating: Good
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Cool, thank you.
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The old Tomb Raider games are 62¢ each if you like old Tomb Raider games.

Well, I-V are 62¢ each. Underworld is 80¢ and Legends for $1.74

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#174 Jul 14 2013 at 3:08 AM Rating: Good
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System Shock 2 won, Next up Ocrcs must die 2, Mark of the Ninja, Deadlight.

I hope Orcs must die 2 Wins I want to buy a copy for my wife, she like those types of games. We played Dungeon Defenders together until we "beat" it then we sorta just stopped playing


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#175 Jul 14 2013 at 3:12 AM Rating: Good
Turns out the developer of Orcs Must Die actually had their office literally across the street from this grocery store I used to work at.

Small world.
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#176 Jul 14 2013 at 7:33 AM Rating: Good
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Have all of the community choice sales so far been games that have cards? Because System Shock 2 has them and that's not exactly... current.

And it's kind of **** if it's the case.
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#177 Jul 14 2013 at 7:39 AM Rating: Good
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I honestly don't remember, but the current three don't so that theory goes out the window.
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I believe they have cards for all three games but just reveal them for the winner right now. Universe Sandbox had its cards go live once it won.

Oh, and Universe Sandbox winning that vote was ass. That's not even a real game.
#179 Jul 14 2013 at 8:40 AM Rating: Good
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I believe they have cards for all three games but just reveal them for the winner right now. Universe Sandbox had its cards go live once it won.

Oh, and Universe Sandbox winning that vote was ass. That's not even a real game.


But, to be fair, I can't even remember what the other two were. And there's a program to help you budget on there right now. So.

As for the current options, I voted Orcs May Die. I've always had something of an interest in it, but never actually got it. Dunno if I will now, but the other two don't appeal to me.
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I believe they have cards for all three games but just reveal them for the winner right now. Universe Sandbox had its cards go live once it won.

Oh, and Universe Sandbox winning that vote was ass. That's not even a real game.


But, to be fair, I can't even remember what the other two were. And there's a program to help you budget on there right now. So.


The budget software is a flash sale, not the community vote option. But ya, pretty stupid thing to have up in the flash sale slot.
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#181 Jul 14 2013 at 8:55 AM Rating: Good
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They're clearly trying to promote the fact that the platform is technically not just games anymore. But c'mon. It's the saddest attempt at promotion I've ever seen.

It's also hilariously out of place. You want to remind your users to budget? In the middle of your summer sale?
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Well, budgeting doesn't necessarily mean cutting back on spending, just allocating that spending for a specific purpose, etc. They want you to budget hundred of dollars to your gaming allowance.
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Sure, but considering how psychologically effective the structure of the sale is in specifically breaking budgeting perspectives on users, it's still odd. The structure of the sale, between different sale types, different durations, and one-day structure of each deal, drives people to stress and bargain with themselves over a purchase.

I mean, Steam makes more money off of you buying a daily deal than buying a flash sale. But offering the game as both helps drive purchases. If you didn't grab it on the daily deal, and the flash sale deal is slightly better, it creates the sense of this being your last chance. So even if that sale isn't the best deal, your disproportionately more likely to buy it.

Likewise, if they offer it as a flash sale, and then later as a daily deal, you're more likely to feel like you "missed" the original sale and this is the best you can do.

But the effectiveness of both those strategies is forcing you to think emotionally, not rationally. And my rational brain tells me that every dollar I spend now is a dollar I can't put into savings for a gaming rig. But my emotional brain sees something pretty at 75% off.
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Well, budgeting doesn't necessarily mean cutting back on spending, just allocating that spending for a specific purpose, etc. They want you to budget hundred of dollars to your gaming allowance.
Yes, that's the definition of budgeting, but the average person doesn't budget unless they are trying to cut back on spending. For a business or a government, budgeting is a way of hiding money in innocuous categories so that it can be there later for emergencies (business) or patronage/graft/corruption (government).

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Sure, but considering how psychologically effective the structure of the sale is in specifically breaking budgeting perspectives on users, it's still odd. The structure of the sale, between different sale types, different durations, and one-day structure of each deal, drives people to stress and bargain with themselves over a purchase.

I mean, Steam makes more money off of you buying a daily deal than buying a flash sale. But offering the game as both helps drive purchases. If you didn't grab it on the daily deal, and the flash sale deal is slightly better, it creates the sense of this being your last chance. So even if that sale isn't the best deal, your disproportionately more likely to buy it.

Likewise, if they offer it as a flash sale, and then later as a daily deal, you're more likely to feel like you "missed" the original sale and this is the best you can do.

But the effectiveness of both those strategies is forcing you to think emotionally, not rationally. And my rational brain tells me that every dollar I spend now is a dollar I can't put into savings for a gaming rig. But my emotional brain sees something pretty at 75% off.
I agree with this, and think it was very well written. I've stopped using double spaces between sentences, after using it for over twenty years, because I recently read a piece that explained it was not the proper style to use and my left brain would no longer allow it. My left brain and my right brain have been at war ever since.

And Zam, in an apparent effort at saving space on their servers, will not allow more than one space. There are ten spaces between this sentence and the last.



EDIT: Oh. I made a pun.



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Kind of an odd tangent, but I still press the space bar twice after each sentence. It's a habit that won't be going away any time soon. But most forums remove extra spaces, leaving the single space even after a sentence.
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Kind of an odd tangent
If we had a separate forum for odd tangents, I would reign over all of my subjects there with an odd fist.

I don't know why, I'm just odd that way.

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Kind of an odd tangent, but I still press the space bar twice after each sentence. It's a habit that won't be going away any time soon. But most forums remove extra spaces, leaving the single space even after a sentence.


I do, too. And I doubt that will ever change. Nor do I intend to put much effort into trying. Nearly everything I do with a keyboard is muscle memory at this point. Why bother? The extra space isn't hurting anyone (I don't work in printing or journalism), and it may or may not make things more legible.
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Oh, and Universe Sandbox winning that vote was ass. That's not even a real game.
But, to be fair, I can't even remember what the other two were. And there's a program to help you budget on there right now. So.

Incredipede and.. umm... something else. But Incredipede should have won.

Universe Sandbox isn't like budgeting software. Rather, it's a simulator that's probably nifty if you're very much into astronomy and good for about three minutes of entertainment otherwise. As in, people voted for it assuming it'd be good times but it's largely not.

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Oh, and Universe Sandbox winning that vote was ass. That's not even a real game.
But, to be fair, I can't even remember what the other two were. And there's a program to help you budget on there right now. So.

Incredipede and.. umm... something else. But Incredipede should have won.

Universe Sandbox isn't like budgeting software. Rather, it's a simulator that's probably nifty if you're very much into astronomy and good for about three minutes of entertainment otherwise. As in, people voted for it assuming it'd be good times but it's largely not.

Edited, Jul 14th 2013 11:05am by Jophiel


Well that's disappointing. Because it looked kind of cool. Not cool enough for me to go for it, but cool enough to be noteworthy.

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Just to add some clarity, I'm not really all that big into sim games. I am into astronomy, which is why it looked interesting.

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You'll be glad to know then that with Universal Sandbox you can play pool with entire star systems using black holes as the pockets.
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Deadlight won the community vote. Smiley: frown
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Incoming Deadlight cards!

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I'm still getting that bug where the old sale prices show. :/

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Woo hoo, complaining works.

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Nothing again for me today. At this rate, between the sales I don't want and every game getting cards, I'm actually going to leave this sale with more money than I started. I began with $30, bought one 80¢ game, the BSI Summer Getaway wallpaper and some cards to complete a couple badges and currently have $36.
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Someone in this thread wanted Kerbal, right? Also vote for Gunpoint.
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I voted for Gunpoint just 'cause. I don't even know what it is.
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people voted for it assuming it'd be good times but it's largely not.


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I voted for Gunpoint just 'cause. I don't even know what it is.


I've seen a lot of positive buzz for it, but never looked too closely.

I voted for it, mostly because I own the other two.
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I remember when my daughter was very young and we were trying anything and everything to get her to interact. I found the God Mode cheat for Doom (Immortal? Invulnerable? DNR) and sat with her to get her to play. It didn't take long to realize all she wanted to do was shoot the 55 gallon drums and watch them explode. She laughed so hard at that. Good memories.

10/10 would play it again.

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