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#152 Jun 15 2013 at 2:02 PM Rating: Decent
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I figured I'd get in. I had an active FFXI account for about 5 or 6 years, and that pretty much guaranteed me original FFXIV beta testing. And while I never had purchased FFXIV, everything seemed to hint pretty heavily at preference to previous FFXI/XIV players.

Beta 3 Part 1 turns off in about 13 hours, so best get crackin'!
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#153 Jun 15 2013 at 2:17 PM Rating: Good
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Probably take me that long to download the game... stupid slow PS3 wireless.
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#154 Jun 15 2013 at 2:26 PM Rating: Decent
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I got in too. Played yesterday, looks nice, and plays way better than the last edition of FF14. Minor things here and there can be fixed but it is looking like it is moving in the right direction at least. I just hope they don't rush through the Beta process like they did last time. It is miles ahead of where it was, but I think SE should be more attentive to the things players are suggesting. They didn't last time and we saw the results. It plays fun so far...but its new, and I am not sure how long that "fun" can last to a long time fantasy MMO player. (bored bored bored.)
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#155 Jun 15 2013 at 2:49 PM Rating: Good
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As someone who is jealous...

I figured it's worth mentioning, because I COMPLETELY forgot, that there is an FFXIII-2 demo in the PSN Store. So anyone who was curious can try it out.
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#156 Jun 15 2013 at 7:36 PM Rating: Good
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So far it's a lot better than original FFXIV Beta. (though, that's not saying much).

I can't help but think it'd be better with a keyboard... maybe I should plug one into my PS3 and see what happens? I see a bunch of people around me talking to each other, they must be typing.
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#157 Jun 15 2013 at 8:36 PM Rating: Good
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I assume there's some way to communicate even without a headset/keyboard...?
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#158 Jun 15 2013 at 8:39 PM Rating: Good
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If you want to play any MMO on a console, you will need a keyboard. Ok, maybe not NEED, but I would never dream of not using one.
FFXI had some slow hunt and pick system to chat with- I don't know if it's in FFXIV, but it's was so ridiculously slow that you'd get left far behind in any conversation.

Also, you might be seeing PC players, who already have keyboards. PS3 and PC will be on the same servers at launch, so I see no reason they would separate them for phase 3.

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#159 Jun 15 2013 at 8:45 PM Rating: Good
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Does it have native headset support? Because it really should.
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#160 Jun 15 2013 at 8:59 PM Rating: Good
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FFXIV has not had a chat client for 1.0 and beta. I have yet to play an MMO with its own voice chat system, so I don't know how common of a practice is it.

For PC, it is assumed PC players will set up their own chat groups, if desired.
I don't have a PS3, but I assume the system has some form of group chat? If so, that would be your only option.

I know how useful voice chat can be (my FFXI group uses it frequently), but since not everyone likes using voice, I believe SE recognized this and wanted to develop a game that would not require it. I do not remember them ever responding to questions about voice chat, so it might not have come up, but I don't browse the forums constantly either.

The devs have so far been pretty receptive to feedback, so you could comment it on the feed back sections of the beta forums and they'll probably give a reply one way or the other, with their reasoning. It would be nice to have cross-platform chat, however.
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#161 Jun 15 2013 at 9:04 PM Rating: Good
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Well, the only MMO I know of that included it was WoW. And no one ever used it, because it was awful.

But if you're going to have a PS3 version, it just seems to be that native support would be necessary. I mean, PS3 players can't join in on any other voice services...
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#162 Jun 15 2013 at 9:42 PM Rating: Excellent
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#163 Jun 15 2013 at 11:30 PM Rating: Good
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Planetside 2 also has chat support (its an MMOFPS) It works pretty good you can talk in like 4 different channels with different keys alot of people use it. Like group, platoon, clan, general chat.
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#164 Jun 16 2013 at 12:49 AM Rating: Decent
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TirithRR wrote:
So far it's a lot better than original FFXIV Beta. (though, that's not saying much).

I can't help but think it'd be better with a keyboard... maybe I should plug one into my PS3 and see what happens? I see a bunch of people around me talking to each other, they must be typing.



You can use keyboard. I was using a wireless one.

Combat still awesome with the controller though.

I assume you can accomplish the same with the PS3 Keyboard that plugs into the controller, I don't have one so can't confirm.

Edited, Jun 16th 2013 2:52am by rdmcandie
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#165 Jun 16 2013 at 9:08 AM Rating: Decent
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TirithRR wrote:
So far it's a lot better than original FFXIV Beta. (though, that's not saying much).

I can't help but think it'd be better with a keyboard... maybe I should plug one into my PS3 and see what happens? I see a bunch of people around me talking to each other, they must be typing.



You can use keyboard. I was using a wireless one.

Combat still awesome with the controller though.

I assume you can accomplish the same with the PS3 Keyboard that plugs into the controller, I don't have one so can't confirm.

Edited, Jun 16th 2013 2:52am by rdmcandie


You can get your run of the mill wireless keyboard and just plug it into the USB jack. That's what I used on the 360(For ffxi) and it also works on the ps3 although I haven't tried it for any game that requires a serious amount of typing on there.

(Mines an HP brand. I heard not all wireless keyboards work)
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#166 Jun 16 2013 at 12:07 PM Rating: Good
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Bluetooth keyboards also work.
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#167 Jun 16 2013 at 2:05 PM Rating: Decent
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Ya I am using a cheesy Logitech Wireless Keyboard + Touch Pad. On my PS3. I find it to bulky I think to play with a controller though. It sucks because I like the control of the controller more than the keyboard, but the keyboard has its obvious advantages. So I think the little PS# compact keyboard would be cool.

https://www.coolshop.co.uk/catalog/product/58068-official_sony_ps3_wireless_keypad_uk_layout_ps3

Not bulky and fills the purpose of typing. I dunno I like gamepads even when I played FFXI I used Gamepad + Keyboard, but I also used Skype so not very much typing took place. (other than trolling in Jeuno.)

Edited, Jun 16th 2013 4:05pm by rdmcandie
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#168 Jun 16 2013 at 5:50 PM Rating: Decent
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#169 Jun 16 2013 at 11:12 PM Rating: Good
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I played (even paid for several months) of xiv and have current xi sub, no key for meeee
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#170 Jun 18 2013 at 6:06 PM Rating: Good
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Olorinus the Ludicrous wrote:
I played (even paid for several months) of xiv and have current xi sub, no key for meeee


You still have a chance. (If you signed up for the Beta, that is). I think they give out new batches of keys with each Phase. And the next Phase starts up on Friday morning, 2am PDT, and ends Sunday morning at 2am PDT.
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#171 Jun 18 2013 at 6:09 PM Rating: Good
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TirithRR wrote:
Olorinus the Ludicrous wrote:
I played (even paid for several months) of xiv and have current xi sub, no key for meeee


You still have a chance. (If you signed up for the Beta, that is). I think they give out new batches of keys with each Phase. And the next Phase starts up on Friday morning, 2am PDT, and ends Sunday morning at 2am PDT.


I bet I get in.

Why?

Because, starting Saturday, I work 7 am to 9 pm every day until Friday the 28th. And life is cruel.
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#172 Jun 18 2013 at 6:12 PM Rating: Good
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I'm bummed that the hours are shifted so far off the NA/EU weekend. Understandable because it's JP and all that, but still. I only get try things out for one day.
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#173 Jun 19 2013 at 5:05 PM Rating: Decent
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TirithRR wrote:
I'm bummed that the hours are shifted so far off the NA/EU weekend. Understandable because it's JP and all that, but still. I only get try things out for one day.


Yeah, I actually don't think it's understandable. It has a worldwide install base, the hours should be more sensible. It definitely wouldn't kill them to add an extra 10 hours on and shift the hours slightly so that folks actually have a chance to play it a bit
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#174 Jun 19 2013 at 5:18 PM Rating: Good
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Olorinus the Ludicrous wrote:
TirithRR wrote:
I'm bummed that the hours are shifted so far off the NA/EU weekend. Understandable because it's JP and all that, but still. I only get try things out for one day.


Yeah, I actually don't think it's understandable. It has a worldwide install base, the hours should be more sensible. It definitely wouldn't kill them to add an extra 10 hours on and shift the hours slightly so that folks actually have a chance to play it a bit


I mean from a standpoint of Square Enix. Pretty sure over the years of me playing FFXI, maintenance, etc. were always done based on the JP times. I've always assumed that the crew was relatively small (company speaking) and all stationed in Japan.
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#175 Jun 19 2013 at 6:29 PM Rating: Good
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They need to have people equipped to handle the English (and other language) customer service, translation, etc. So they're probably working with offices in both the US and international offices of SE.

The beta ends at 6 PM on Sunday in Japan. That's a weird time to begin with. /shrug
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#176 Jun 19 2013 at 9:00 PM Rating: Good
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If you aren't an old FFXIV player, and are looking to get into ARR, pretty sure GMG has the best deal on the preorder, you can get the collector's edition for 37.50USD, or the regular pre-order for 22.50USD.

I was only in the Beta for FFXIV, so I didn't see what they had done trying to fix it, but ARR looks like an entirely different game. Though I did start a character in Limsa Lominsa on ARR and it looked very similar to what I remember Limsa Lominsa was in the previous version's Beta. Even similar monsters outside.
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