I'm halfway through L42 and I have not done a non-story or non-class quest since L16.
Fecking casuals - ruining the game. Thank God SE is waiting until the "free" game time expires on the 6th and only the hard core re-up before they give us the real game.
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"the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country." Hermann Goering, April 1946.
I'm halfway through L42 and I have not done a non-story or non-class quest since L16.
Fecking casuals - ruining the game. Thank God SE is waiting until the "free" game time expires on the 6th and only the hard core re-up before they give us the real game.
And just how much grinding have you done? Because that's what I did, and it was a LOT of grinding.
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IDrownFish wrote:
Anyways, you all are horrible, @#%^ed up people
lolgaxe wrote:
Never underestimate the healing power of a massive dong.
Yup, that's why I'm not leveling another DoW/M class until they fix those certain level ranges. The last week I've basically done nothing but Botany... almost 45, and getting ******** of Mirror Apples for my CUL :D.
This is your opinion and you are entitled to it. It is not fact.
Now, we can argue about this but (1) argument does not change facts, and (2) it would only serve to feed into your trolling.
The mod is an avid poster on BG. As you can see from idiggory's follow up post what I have stated is the facts. Next time you try to act all and mighty and acuse me of trolling, check yourself first.
Turin wrote:
I'm halfway through level 46, my next story mission isn't until level 49 and I don't have any quests available. I'm going to have to grind out 80-90 FATEs and Leves just to get to level 49. My interest in this game is waning rather quickly at this point.
One of my friends complained about this too. However me and my other friend never had this problem. The most we had to grind out was a fourth of a level from 49-50; Quests carried us all the way there.
I wonder what you guys all did 'wrong' that resulted in you having to grind out such a large gap.
I don't remember having a lot of grinding in there, either. I know I did spend a bunch of time doing hunting logs, particularly the GC logs. I did some FATEs for seals to rank up in the GC, but overall I don't recall there being an undue amount of grind in those levels. There aren't really enough quests to carry a second or third combat class up, but I thought there was a sufficient amount for one.
I finished off both the GC and Lancer hunting logs, did every quest I came across, ran every optional dungeon at least once, some of them several times, hopped in every FATE I ran across, and even spent quite a bit of time running GC leves so I could rank up high enough to get the level 44 spear. I even made sure to always log out in a sanctuary to get the bonus EXP boost. I don't know what I else I could have done to get more EXP.
As you can see from idiggory's follow up post what I have stated is the facts. Next time you try to act all and mighty and acuse me of trolling, check yourself first.
You asked why we were assuming he didn't get another mod involved from the outset, implying you thought he did get another mod involved from the outset. There's no other way of interpreting your statement. But, he did not get another mod involved from the outset.
cynyck wrote:
If you had read the thread you would have seen that no one is "assuming he didn't get another mod involved from the outset," you would know that he said that he deleted posts and then thought perhaps he should get another mod involved.
So, I said he deleted some posts first, then got another mod involved.
idiggory, King of Bards wrote:
The head honcho mod released an official statement saying that the mod did get him involved, but not until after he had deleted some of the statements. . .
And, Idiggory said he deleted some posts first, then got another mod involved.
And I'm supposed to believe you're not trolling?
idiggory, King of Bards wrote:
And just how much grinding have you done? Because that's what I did, and it was a LOT of grinding.
Yeah, I was actually agreeing with you, it was all fate grinding, story quests, class quests, and the dungeons the story quests send you to.
The point is, and I think everyone is making the same point but in a different way, that there are really only enough quests to take one character through to level cap without fate grinding, dungeon grinding, or just old-fashioned MoB grinding. And I'm not even sure about the 46-50 range you've mentioned because I haven't gotten there yet.
EDIT: To further develop my point, that means that any subsequent classes you want to take to 50 are going to require a grind. Or, as in my case, grind the first character and save the quests for another class. I suppose the increased exp you get from having a class at 50 is supposed to lessen any subsequent grind, but it's still a grind.
Last night someone announced in the reddit LS that he was now a WHM. I checked him out, he has a 50 THM, a 50 ARC, and a 30 WHM. I didn't look closely to see what else, as that was impressive enough to me. That's a lot of grinding no matter how you slice it.
Edited, Oct 4th 2013 5:03pm by cynyck
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"the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country." Hermann Goering, April 1946.
I don't remember having a lot of grinding in there, either. I know I did spend a bunch of time doing hunting logs, particularly the GC logs. I did some FATEs for seals to rank up in the GC, but overall I don't recall there being an undue amount of grind in those levels. There aren't really enough quests to carry a second or third combat class up, but I thought there was a sufficient amount for one.
Fates got nerfed really quickly, iirc. I think the spawn times for them were cut significantly. So the number you completed just while doing normal content dropped, drastically.
At first, it was more-or-less like having 3 Fates up in a zone at any given time. That pretty much ensured you were going to get a decent chunk of bonus exp just wandering from quest hub to quest target.
Also worth asking, how many dungeons did you run? They may not be as good as Fate Grinding, but they're still better exp than just about anything else. But only tanks get instant queues past 30, when the EXP plateaus heavily for all other classes. Even on my Whm, I was seeing 16m+ queues. Too long to really choose to sit in them, when I could be in a Fate group instead.
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IDrownFish wrote:
Anyways, you all are horrible, @#%^ed up people
lolgaxe wrote:
Never underestimate the healing power of a massive dong.
Also discovery seems to be a percent of your TNL, so if you explore a lot at higher levels you get more EXP. Wander the world at a low level exploring and you lose out.
Also discovery seems to be a percent of your TNL, so if you explore a lot at higher levels you get more EXP. Wander the world at a low level exploring and you lose out.
That's a massive pain in the ***, considering the story quest and hunting log do everything in their power to get you exploring.
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IDrownFish wrote:
Anyways, you all are horrible, @#%^ed up people
lolgaxe wrote:
Never underestimate the healing power of a massive dong.
Also discovery seems to be a percent of your TNL, so if you explore a lot at higher levels you get more EXP. Wander the world at a low level exploring and you lose out.
That's a massive pain in the ***, considering the story quest and hunting log do everything in their power to get you exploring.
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IDrownFish wrote:
Anyways, you all are horrible, @#%^ed up people
lolgaxe wrote:
Never underestimate the healing power of a massive dong.
Also discovery seems to be a percent of your TNL, so if you explore a lot at higher levels you get more EXP. Wander the world at a low level exploring and you lose out.
That's a massive pain in the ***, considering the story quest and hunting log do everything in their power to get you exploring.
That would be my next biggest complaint about the story line (1st being the gap between 46-49). So much running around just to talk to people, seems completely pointless.
#1139Deadgye,
Posted:Oct 05 2013 at 8:09 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Oh, I see. You wanted him to not moderate at all until another mod was able to get over there. Let me explain to you why you think I'm trolling you: You're retarded. You don't abstain from moderating, abiding by and in accordance to the rules, until someone else can get there. It's like giving a cop **** for taking action, in accordance to the law, before back up could arrive.
Yeah, I'll admit that I thought his initial moderation was heavier than it ended up being. In the end, I'm fine with how it was handled. The biggest problem with moderating on Reddit is that users can bomb down mod's posts too, so even the explanations were getting bombed below filters.
Whatever. It's Reddit. I thought the only legitimate issue in there was an admin moderating posts regarding him, and I was wrong in my assumptions. Then again, I wasn't one of the ones flipping **** about it. Deadgye, you're still a ****.
Oh, I see. You wanted him to not moderate at all until another mod was able to get over there. Let me explain to you why you think I'm trolling you: You're retarded. You don't abstain from moderating, abiding by and in accordance to the rules, until someone else can get there. It's like giving a cop sh*t for taking action, in accordance to the law, before back up could arrive.
If he improperly moderated, you would have an argument. But the fact is he did not: he did everything correctly. End of story. You're butthurt. Get over it.
The board has like 8 mods, and he didn't alert anyone else about it until after he took action.
At the very worst, he should have notified the other mods beforehand. A quick "Hey, there's this post, I'm going to nuke it because duh, but I want someone else to take this over as soon as they can."
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IDrownFish wrote:
Anyways, you all are horrible, @#%^ed up people
lolgaxe wrote:
Never underestimate the healing power of a massive dong.
At the same time, subreddit mods aren't always familiar with proper mod procedure. Dude's probably just a normal guy who happened to be one of the early adopters of the game and was active on the subreddit. While it may be common sense, I don't see any reason to crucify him for his actions.
"the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country." Hermann Goering, April 1946.
"the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country." Hermann Goering, April 1946.
Ran Ifrit HM today a few times, no spear drop though. I'm close to getting my first piece of DL gear, not sure which I should grab first. I'm leaning towards waiting for the body, it's the biggest improvement over what I have now, but it takes twice as many tomes to get, so I'm not sure it's worth waiting for over getting two of the cheaper pieces first.
Well congrats again! But in this one she looks like an axe murderer.
I can't help thinking she's about to yell "Heeere's Johhny!" and whack the little guy in half.
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"the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country." Hermann Goering, April 1946.
Everything being way too easy to level combined with the lack of end game content might end up killing this game rather early. Coil is great and hard and all, but I'm quickly running out of interesting things to do. I really don't understand why they made crafting/gathering classes so easy to cap as well. With how we still don't have a date for 2.1, I'm starting to get rather worried for the game.