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#1 Feb 20 2013 at 8:35 PM Rating: Decent
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http://www.the-magicbox.com/1302/game130220a.shtml

I'm interested in seeing how people will react to all the modifications made to the ps4, especially the cloud base system, which i like, since i dont have a huge collection of disk games, and since im anti-gamestop, wonder how itll affect them
#2 Feb 20 2013 at 8:50 PM Rating: Good
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Seriously look like 10 threads down...
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#3Ishihara, Posted: Feb 20 2013 at 10:11 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Will be announced? Today IS Feb 20th, anyway didnt see that when I looked.
#4 Feb 20 2013 at 10:26 PM Rating: Good
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Maybe I should read the thread next time...

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#5 Feb 21 2013 at 7:08 AM Rating: Good
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Here's a little side by side of the PS4 vs the Xbox 720. PS4 will be more powerful.

Still no firm release date. Christmastime this year still sounds like best guess. Anyone caught wind of prices?

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#6 Feb 21 2013 at 7:37 AM Rating: Excellent
Wait, I'm suppose to get excited for a concole that is only on par with my current PC? That doesn't come out for another 6-9 months and will be even farther behind PC's at that point? No thanks
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#7 Feb 21 2013 at 7:59 AM Rating: Good
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Elinda wrote:
Here's a little side by side of the PS4 vs the Xbox 720. PS4 will be more powerful.

Still no firm release date. Christmastime this year still sounds like best guess. Anyone caught wind of prices?


Whether it's more powerful or not has a good chance of being irrelevant. The PS3 was purportedly more powerful than the 360, but consistently looked worse due to cross-platform bottlenecking and ease-of-development issues. I'm more curious about what it's like to develop for, and Sony seemed to be making a lot of noise about the PS4 being more open and simple to make games on. That'd be a big win, if it's the case.

No firm release date, no price announcements yet. The former might not come until TGS, the latter seems like a good bet for E3.

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Wait, I'm suppose to get excited for a concole that is only on par with my current PC? That doesn't come out for another 6-9 months and will be even farther behind PC's at that point? No thanks


I think that's a myopic way of looking at it, though it's a valid enough mindset if you're indeed only concerned about graphical fidelity. Better to look at the exclusive software - are there games worth playing on it? Then there's ease of use: consoles have always been great for the ability to pop a disc in and play it, no questions asked. Sony's making a lot of overtures towards out-of-the-box functionality, like risk free demos and the ability to play a game while downloading it, too.

I found the announcement interesting, and I'm cautiously optimistic for the system, even if I probably won't be buying one this year. The 1st party stuff shown didn't do it for me (Killzone in particularly disappointed me greatly), and the 3rd party stuff is mostly too nebulous to invest in right now. Watch Dogs looked solid, but didn't blow my mind.

Still, the system's feature list looks impressive, and the company strategy seems legit. That's reassuring for an early reveal.

Edited, Feb 21st 2013 9:01am by Eske
#8 Feb 21 2013 at 8:01 AM Rating: Decent
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I'm interested to see what will happen with Xbox because most third party titles will likely be produced based on the specs of that system. I could see developers ignoring the WiiU if PS/Xbox have similar RAM specs like last generation. If the Xbox has less RAM, the games probably won't take advantage of the extra RAM on PS like most console to PC ports, an afterthought. 8GB of GDDR5 RAM has the potential to be huge and is double the amount of most leaks. Bear in mind this is GDDR5 RAM like that used in video cards, not the DDR3 you find in your PC that has 16/32GB whatever. There's a lot of potential under the hood here and the concensus seems to be that it is on par with a 7950.

Edited, Feb 21st 2013 8:02am by Paskil
#9 Feb 21 2013 at 11:38 AM Rating: Decent
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I don't know how relevant this is now but I have always found consoles can have far lower specs than a PC and still produce games on par with PC games.

The #1 thing I am looking at right now is if greed is going to take over and kill the used games market.
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The #1 thing I am looking at right now is if greed is going to take over and kill the used games market.


Sony's head of worldwide game studios, Shuhei Yoshida confirmed, the PS4 will not require an always online connection and will not block used games. It will be up to publishers if they want to require an online registration for their games.
#11 Feb 21 2013 at 12:45 PM Rating: Good
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I don't know how relevant this is now but I have always found consoles can have far lower specs than a PC and still produce games on par with PC games.


yea. xbox 360 has 512 mb of ram and the games arent that horrible.
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Another good thing about the PS4 for PC gamers is its x86 based, therefore ports with be easier and quicker. One of the only reasons I own a PS3 is for console exclusive games, and Jrpgs because we dont get those on PC. Unfortunately Jrpgs have been in major decline this generation and atm I don't see a huge uptake on them, even with Ni No Kuni being a hit.
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I don't know how relevant this is now but I have always found consoles can have far lower specs than a PC and still produce games on par with PC games.

This is generally because the PC games are console ports and/or designed to run with minimal system specs. Allow the PC to break loose and it'll blow the console away. As well it should, given the more advanced technology. Take a look at modded Skyrim or even Dark Souls after that guy modded away much of the console derived crippling of the graphics.

Art style can play a part too. Dishonored on consoles looks about the same as on PC cranked up. But that's because there's a more distinct ceiling when you're not striving for realism.

Edit: This shouldn't be taken as "I think console games all look like crap". I'm just saying PC games can naturally look a lot better which shouldn't be any surprise. That there isn't as large of a gulf between the two has more to do with holding back PC capabilities for various reasons than it does consoles exceeding their potential.

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#15 Feb 21 2013 at 3:38 PM Rating: Excellent
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Too late. This is now officially a console vs. PC gaming thread.

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#16 Feb 21 2013 at 3:39 PM Rating: Good
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Good thing about consoles is everyone gets to have a similar gaming experience because of the standardized hardware. PCs vary so much, a persons experience is tied to their system specs.

Consoles are Communism...
Joph, you should love Consoles, you dirty socialist liberal.
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Asylum is that way. There's a reason I don't thread there, you all eat souls and spit out fire there. I stick to my relatively safe gaming/Tv/General forums.

Also I don't mind console vs PC stuff because now they are essentially the same, sans input types.
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#18 Feb 21 2013 at 4:01 PM Rating: Excellent
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Mostly just a lot of bad metaphors and vote-shooting people.
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Asylum is that way. There's a reason I don't thread there, you all eat souls and spit out fire there.


Don't worry, it's probably one of the tamer forums on Alla now.
#20 Feb 21 2013 at 4:26 PM Rating: Good
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I expected more from the big, bad General Video Game Discussion forum.
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#21 Feb 21 2013 at 4:53 PM Rating: Good
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BOW DOWN BEFORE THE PC MASTER RACE Smiley: bowdown Smiley: king

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#22 Feb 21 2013 at 7:15 PM Rating: Good
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I wonder if they'll implement an overall trophy score similar to Xbox's Gamer Score. While I'm not a huge achievement enthusiast, I do have to admit that there's a certain allure to an overall achievement "score".
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BeanX wrote:
There's a reason I don't thread there, you all eat souls and spit out fire there.

Isn't BeanX the stuff that you eat and it keeps you from farting?

It's pure logistics. My computer is tucked in a corner of a spare room. It's nice for computing and even gaming computing, but I can't stand back 6 feet from it and do ninja moves, nor can I do any multi-person stuff with it. It's just not designed to be the center of attention.

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Consoles are Communism...
Joph, you should love Consoles, you dirty socialist liberal.

Young, naive TirithRR...

As long as I have a computer with better specs than the consoles, PC's are obviously better so I can lord it over the lower classes.

Should I ever fall behind, THEN I demand equal gaming access for all. In the name of equality and fairness, you understand.
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There's a reason I don't thread there, you all eat souls and spit out fire there.

Isn't BeanX the stuff that you eat and it keeps you from farting?


I think that's Gas-X and Beano
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