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#152 Aug 26 2006 at 10:55 PM Rating: Decent
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Discrimination is unfair treatment based on race, creed or religion, not treatment based on that person's previous behavior. If you had just joined and been banned because you were of a certain nationality, gender or religion the boards didn't like, then that would be discrimination, and you still wouldn't have a case. As it is, you were banned for causing problems on the boards and that's it.

I was a mod on several forums for a few years, and let me let you in on a little secret... they have your IP address. If you get banned repeatedly and then come back and find your new account banned, it's because they know it's you and they know you have a history of causing problems.
#153 Aug 26 2006 at 11:57 PM Rating: Good
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i dont mind them...let them stay...its kinda funny at this point.
#154 Aug 27 2006 at 12:37 AM Rating: Decent
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Holy **** what did I miss here?........thats what I get for Going on a little vacation for a week and a half.
#155 Aug 27 2006 at 11:44 AM Rating: Decent
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i dont know about that one murrun,anyone who puts up a pic like that next to there name is most likely false advertising,i mean not stickin up for him or her but you have to look at the big picture,lol get it? (big picture)!!!!!!


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#156 Aug 27 2006 at 11:53 AM Rating: Default
I believe you may want to contact and attorney to get a clear definition of discrimination. Discrimination for EEOC, which is more for employment, credit or financial is as you state. However discrimination also applies to those that are treatly differently than others who perform the same act. Such as in this case you have several people on this site that use profane and vulgar language yet are allowed to continue to participate in the forum. While those that are not part of a "clic" are permitted to do the exact same actions as those who are banned. This constitutes discrimination. There are many others on this site that cuss and have referred to someone providing sexual acts to either deny or give yet this person is now listed as an administrator. This is an abuse of power and very much grounds for a lawsuit. So, I would suggest that before you begin to make accusations you check with an attorney. This is not a private site, it is open to the public and this is a public forum protected under the law by freedom of speech. There is no requirement to join other than an email address. There is no fee to pay to participate and it is able to be copied and redistributed for use in a lawsuit if necessary.

Also, as a previous moderator I am sure you are aware there are rules which you must follow and must be addressed across the board, not to just members that you disagree with their statements. And as for the IP address, yes I agree an IP address can be found and banned. However you must insure that if you site an IP address of a previous participant to be the reason a new participant is also banned, that the 2nd participant you are banning has in fact the same IP address and does not live 7 states away on a completely different IP address. Otherwise this does constitute discrimination as it is "assuming" that the name is one and the same as one you have previously banned when in fact it is not.
#157 Aug 27 2006 at 12:15 PM Rating: Good
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Ren again wrote:
I believe you may want to contact and attorney to get a clear definition of discrimination. Discrimination for EEOC, which is more for employment, credit or financial is as you state. However discrimination also applies to those that are treatly differently than others who perform the same act. Such as in this case you have several people on this site that use profane and vulgar language yet are allowed to continue to participate in the forum. While those that are not part of a "clic" are permitted to do the exact same actions as those who are banned. This constitutes discrimination. There are many others on this site that cuss and have referred to someone providing sexual acts to either deny or give yet this person is now listed as an administrator. This is an abuse of power and very much grounds for a lawsuit. So, I would suggest that before you begin to make accusations you check with an attorney. This is not a private site, it is open to the public and this is a public forum protected under the law by freedom of speech. There is no requirement to join other than an email address. There is no fee to pay to participate and it is able to be copied and redistributed for use in a lawsuit if necessary.

Also, as a previous moderator I am sure you are aware there are rules which you must follow and must be addressed across the board, not to just members that you disagree with their statements. And as for the IP address, yes I agree an IP address can be found and banned. However you must insure that if you site an IP address of a previous participant to be the reason a new participant is also banned, that the 2nd participant you are banning has in fact the same IP address and does not live 7 states away on a completely different IP address. Otherwise this does constitute discrimination as it is "assuming" that the name is one and the same as one you have previously banned when in fact it is not.

Ok, I'm going to try this again, and for those of you that are *special*, read slowly. Ren IS NOT being banned for language but rather a previous and continued behavior of being a troll. Known trolls get dealt with accordingly. As to the discrimination, this is a private site, and as such they can ban those users they feel are detrimental to their community.
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#158 Aug 27 2006 at 12:32 PM Rating: Good
You are missing several key things.

First the courts have established that it is OK to discriminate. (TBSOA not allowing gay leaders in their ranks or how felons are not allowed to vote.) You need to remember boys clubs do not have to allow girls.

Second for a law suit to take place there has to be loss. Since you have no loss how can you sue?

Third you have to prove how your group was descriminated against, which you cant. Troll discrimination has not become a valid form of descrimination.
#159 Aug 27 2006 at 2:20 PM Rating: Default
Again you are wrong felons are allowed to vote now stated by a new law put into effect 2 years ago and if you absolutely think its ok to discriminate then something is wrong with you now I have sent kas post and her offensive remarks TO THE PEOPLE IN CHARGE OF allakhzam so we will see just how long she will stay and adm my bf ren is not as comp smart as I SO SHE INSULETED the wrong person
#160 Aug 27 2006 at 2:28 PM Rating: Good
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Ren wrote:
Again you are wrong felons are allowed to vote now stated by a new law put into effect 2 years ago and if you absolutely think its ok to discriminate then something is wrong with you now I have sent kas post and her offensive remarks TO THE PEOPLE IN CHARGE OF allakhzam so we will see just how long she will stay and adm my bf ren is not as comp smart as I SO SHE INSULETED the wrong person

Ren, If you're going to pretend to be someone else, it's a good idea to fix your spelling, grammar, punctuation, and capitalization issues. And for the record, I've done no banning as I'm not an admin. I have forwarded Rens posts to the administration staff, and they've been the ones doing the banning. It'd be a good idea to realize how things work before you go off claiming I'm the problem here. To any admin that runs through this thread, I recommend a lock.
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#161 Aug 27 2006 at 2:42 PM Rating: Excellent
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Using the allakhazam forums is a privilage, not a right. Your access was removed because you insisted upon creating disruptions. Think of this as a private club, and the bouncer threw you out because you were creating problems. This aint th public library, you do NOT have an inherant right to be here.

Thretening legal action without cause is a good way to get yourself countersued for harrasment. Might want to keep that in mind.
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#162 Aug 27 2006 at 3:06 PM Rating: Default
kaol i see you havnt read the whole post now what right did you have to ban the last name none so your president and vice president have recieved e-mails from myself and others pertaining to kas also her post has been attached to the e-mail along with mine so before you get to talking about sueing some 1 for harrassment i sugest you read through the whole post before you jump to judgement on some 1 good day and have a nice day to you tomm copies of all post yours kas and rens will be sent to my att and we will let the courts decide
#163 Aug 27 2006 at 4:54 PM Rating: Default
Dread Lörd Kaolian wrote:
Using the allakhazam forums is a privilage, not a right. Your access was removed because you insisted upon creating disruptions. Think of this as a private club, and the bouncer threw you out because you were creating problems. This aint th public library, you do NOT have an inherant right to be here.

Thretening legal action without cause is a good way to get yourself countersued for harrasment. Might want to keep that in mind.
first of all this is not ren just a someone who thinks this whole thing is a joke this might be a club to you all but it looks like a pc to me!!!and as for you kaolian u can suck my dik now how the fck is that for harrasment,REN i hope you dont respect this fckin wannabe cause after i read his dumb *** post i sure dont, FCK YOU ALL IM OUT LOL...CLUB LMAO WHAT A JOKE
#164 Aug 27 2006 at 5:18 PM Rating: Good
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first of all this is not ren just a someone who thinks this whole thing is a joke this might be a club to you all but it looks like a pc to me!!!and as for you kaolian u can suck my dik now how the fck is that for harrasment,REN i hope you dont respect this fckin wannabe cause after i read his dumb *** post i sure dont, FCK YOU ALL IM OUT LOL...CLUB LMAO WHAT A JOKE

I don't know why I'm still playing with it, but sometimes it's fun. You are either Ren, or god help us all Godraiden. You are subhuman, and as such do not deserve the privilege of posting here.



Pssst. You know they can track IPs now...'tard.
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#165 Aug 27 2006 at 5:21 PM Rating: Excellent
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Both ren, both banned. If he comes back again i'll be calling AOL to get his Access revoked. I like how he thinks his attourney will be able or willing to do anything about someone being tossed out of a private message board for blatent and continued harrasment of our members. Harrasment which we have fully document evedince over.

yeah, i'm really scared of a lawsuit now. Geez.
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#166 Aug 27 2006 at 5:24 PM Rating: Good
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Phew...I was actually a little worried that the last one was Godraiden. In all fairness though, Ren acts ALOT like Godraiden. It's kind of sad really. In fact...didn't Godraiden threaten legal action?

Edited, Aug 27th 2006 at 6:25pm EDT by Kastigir
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#167 Aug 27 2006 at 5:27 PM Rating: Excellent
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yup, many times. empty threats all of them
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#168 Aug 27 2006 at 5:55 PM Rating: Default
Dread Lörd Kaolian wrote:
yup, many times. empty threats all of them
yep your right just like you think this is the same person,your a noboby on this site just like kasigir, you call aol for the i p and you will get laughed at, thats like me callin for your i p its just not gonna happen so please let me save you the embarrassment do it if you like!!!!!!!!!morons i swear lol
#169 Aug 27 2006 at 6:02 PM Rating: Default
now this ren since your banning me for no apparent reason and you think we are the same people i have your president right now e-mailing back in forth what was the reason you banned bannedthewrongperson cause of thornit which you think we are the same if you were as smart as you say run the ip address now ive sent the president all my post including this whole 1 to sho how faviortism is on these boards ive seen plenty of people cussing eachother out useing vulgar comments but my brother and me are the only 1s getting banned you even banned my gfs post sismedi who has never posted on here so lets see what happens now
#170 Aug 27 2006 at 6:08 PM Rating: Excellent
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It's actually two seperate people who know each other, that's how one has more typing skills than the other. They sent me an email asking us to fire Kastigir, and then when I told them that Kastigir wasn't an admin, they wanted me to fire Kaolian instead. Er, no?

The saddest troll is one who doesn't realize he is one, and this is the second one this week. Er, second and third, I guess.
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#171 Aug 27 2006 at 6:11 PM Rating: Good
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Dana wrote:
It's actually two seperate people who know each other, that's how one has more typing skills than the other.

I don't know Dana, both of their typing skills are pretty weak.
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#172 Aug 27 2006 at 6:15 PM Rating: Excellent
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http://postmaster.aol.com/guidelines/junk.html#abuse

E-mail sent with posting logs, IP's, Timestamps, message content, etc. Have a nice day.
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#173 Aug 27 2006 at 6:18 PM Rating: Good
Ren did say the one was his brother, maybe his brother can type when he wants to. They did try double trolling for a bit till the both got banned.




BTW Kast they are determined you are a gal arnt they.Smiley: laugh
#174 Aug 27 2006 at 6:19 PM Rating: Excellent
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Posting in support of a troll will get you banned just as fast as being a troll yourself. That's a good lesson to learn.
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#175 Aug 27 2006 at 6:20 PM Rating: Excellent
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dirges the Irrelevant wrote:
Ren did say the one was his brother, maybe his brother can type when he wants to. They did try double trolling for a bit till the both got banned.

BTW Kast they are determined you are a gal arnt they.Smiley: laugh


I'm still getting Sir/Madam emails even though my email has my real name on it.
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#176 Aug 27 2006 at 6:22 PM Rating: Good
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I'll admit that it's an unhealthy obsession. Ren actually did well between his first and second banning. Of course after getting kennedylawgrp banned he's just become a serious troll with an unhealthy, Godraidenlike obsession.
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