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Ok don't hate me too much i've been playing MMORPGs For going on 8 years and i have tried all the new ones out there big fan OF EQ2 after the updates although changed a little to much in class ways (take my damn druid top heal from me A$$ holes ) but to be Honest and this is where i don't want you to hate me FF11 sucks balls just long enough to make them blue the hole hold on the MMORPG that it has is the subclasses which still barely holds the games head overwater the second thing and the one that really makes the even lamer is the name sells it Final Fantasy one of my favorite series of all time sucks as a MMORPG maybe it would have been better if enix would have never took over but The game still has no bound to compare with whats out there after playing the new expansion i found myself kicking my own *** that i bought into this game again for example EQOA Is a great game but is limited by alot still with eyes closed shut is a much better game then FF11 by far that why i'm venting though how the hell does a game like that get 3 expansions and this one only gets 1 it's a blowout in my mind this game only set back was it uses memory card instead of the hard drive but damn I'll buy a hard drive for EQOA anyday to get new stuff and would do it with out worry for others.( I know one long setance lol) I use the station pass so i'm on all 3 eq from time to time but this one for some reason has always held me in and keep me wanting to play although i have been gone form it for a while i'm back and I'm going to have a blast

I went over this.. its because of popularity it isn't at all hard to see, or any big kind of mystery. How good a game is has no bearing on expansions, just how much money can be made off of it.

Your missing the point. Its bussiness. While SoE dissapointed EQoA players, including myself. There just aren't enough to spend the money, it wouldn't make a big enough profit for SoE. I don't really understand what your getting at, because all I could pull out of your first post was that EQoA is a better game than FFXI and it deserved an expansion more.

Either way, yes its a *****. But SoE is not known for being the best company out there..

Exactly. Thats why EQoA was never popular.



I haven't played EQ2 besides the trial, but it seems like a good game from what I read/saw. But again, SoE saw more money with EQ2. The problem with that is that the release of WoW kind of took away some of that profit.

I used to play EQOA on Marr's fist. When I was lvl 8 I already started losing interest in the game, I never made it past 30 and eventually the population died down mainly to WoW and partially to FFXI. It was a fun game at first but it was too hard to get into. What the game lacked in effects it made up for in graphics, music and the ability to roam the world without loading each zone like FFXI. I quit playing because the game was so boring and there was nothing to do. I waited and waited and waited for the expansion but eventually got tired of paying for an account I wasn't even playing. I have to admit, EQOA had potentiall but due to the lack of gamers and eqoa staff members it kinda died after Frontiers came out.

As for Final Fantasy XI, I don't find it hard to get bored with it, because at one point everyone gets bored with MMORPG's, you'd just have to find the spark again. I find it as a major improvement over EQOA in terms of classes, skills, cities, music, effects etc. The fact that you can travell by airship is pretty cool too. I think the trick isn't really to look at it as a Final Fantas game, but more as another online rpg. But I must admit, it seems that SquarEnix took the hype from the Final Fantasy seriers to lure people in.

You guys prolly didn't get this from the messege, but I believe it's all based on a matter of opinion. My friend in real life played on marr's fist too, his name was SirMoth. He loved the game with a passion and would stay up for hours improving his character and helping out others. So yes, you may not like FFXI at all, but I believe this game is worth every penny I'm paying on it.

~Hope that wasn't too long or stupid ;)

Isn't that the same with Everquest though? I mean, I played as a cleric and it was fun but got boring. My irl friend told me that once I get to 30 It'll be funner and it was, but it got boring again.
As for the improvements, if you're playing on PS2 you don't really see improvements on graphics. You need to have a good computer in order to bring it out, and my computer barely brings it out =S. The difference in armor is something else I've noticed. I saw my friend go from level 1 up to lvl 60 on his pally and 55 on one of his other characters. From what I saw, all the armor pretty much looked the same only different colors. I found it very hard to tell it apart from what my lvl 30 Cleric was wearing. Within my first week of FFXI I saw differences in armor early on....but I totally agree with the whole underwear thing, it's gross. As soon as I got it I ran lvl'd up as fast as possible so I wouldn't have to wear that :D

Here's something we could prolly agree on, there are things in EQ that I wish was in FFXI, and I bet there are a few things in FFXI that you wish were in EQ.


~By the way, I played on Marr's first on the character Temos, what about you?

Perhaps the people that played FFXI and didn't like it expected too much from it. I mean, that's what I did with EverQuest. I thought it was going to be great, but I ended up hating it. As for the memory problem, I had 1 memeory card couldn't afford another one...literally. My money went to bills and EverQuest so I couldn't save all my games *But I have a better job now so that's no longer a factor :D*

When you say the combat system I'm assuming you mean EQ and FFXI. The main reason I didn't like EQ's combat system is because pretty much every magic attack had the same battle animation. I can't remember too well what the other races looked like, but I remember as a human everytime I used a spell the character would look like he saluted someone and the enemies would get little sparks falling around them...that's pretty much it. And the extra attacks that pallys or s.k's get is just another swing of the arm, which looks like another normal attack. In FFXI it's different, ice actually looks like ice, fire looks like fire, and weapon skill may have the same arm movement but it'll make a striking sound and a striking trial *I'm going off what I saw on my warrior at lvl 5, i've been too busy to see higher levels fight* Basically, FFXI's combat system is more detailed than EQ's.

I still have my ff11 acount don't know why but i have RLF on it so i still jump on the combat in it is so slow you can't even pull a seprate mob with out it tell you you have to wait to perform that action which really sucks I can't say your wrong on the Magic graphics your right but please stat EQoA it's not the same for EQ and EQ2 there is less of a differance for that but Then again it isn't using know where as near the space FF11 uses and if you can't afford another memeory card then how did you fork out the 100 dollors for FF11 ( that is if you had got it on the ps2 not trying to pry and be a **** just making a point) FF11 isn't a game that really was well thought out once again I bring up the fact that the game although 3d graphics plays like a 2d game Combat really sucks yes it looks pretty (not really by much) the world is completly bland and the combat system isn't up to par with some of the free online MMORGP which you can find out there

WoW from what i hear is mostly solocraft never really need to group as long as you play Eq2 had a rocky start but is beging to leave WoW behind Blizzard lack of any real new content has left alot of players wanting there isn't a day I have ever played Eq2 and not found a wow newb player for these reason eq2 going on it's 3rd expansion and it's 3rd adventure pack the game is great keeps it's player on edge with a few game changes every few updates(sometimes it tends to ***** a class over but we get it back in the end) somethings SOE knows is marketing the most played I would say now would be Everquest2 and getting bigger every day.