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Who can beat necros in a duelFollow

#1 Jun 22 2006 at 12:00 PM Rating: Decent
last night i got into a argument with a noobie about what toon could beat a necro in a duel, his argument was that necro's are the stronges in the game. I told him no there not and my Key points was.

1. It really depends on the person that build the toon.
2. A tank with high sta, HoT, AR could mop the floor with necro
3. And if he cheats before duel and have a shaman cast ava him.

But in the end the sad lil noob stop talking I guess he finally got that his sad lil necro was not a god among men lol. So tell me, what do you guys think was I wrong. Tell me what you think and what toons have you seen take down necros.
#2 Jun 22 2006 at 12:10 PM Rating: Decent
My heroic were-hunter took out plenty of necros, self buffed and with Vital Strike attacks only. It usually takes 3-5 Vitals to win. I had 490 Int at the time and was doing 2k Vital Proc plus weapon (500-800) and my quads averaged 2-3k total damage.
#3 Jun 22 2006 at 12:27 PM Rating: Decent
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Juggernauts only real tough battles ive had with my ninja.. otherwise it's lights out for the nec
#4 Jun 22 2006 at 3:01 PM Rating: Decent
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last night i got into a argument with a noobie about what toon could beat a necro in a duel, his argument was that necro's are the stronges in the game. I told him no there not and my Key points was.

1. It really depends on the person that build the toon.
2. A tank with high sta, HoT, AR could mop the floor with necro
3. And if he cheats before duel and have a shaman cast ava him.

But in the end the sad lil noob stop talking I guess he finally got that his sad lil necro was not a god among men lol. So tell me, what do you guys think was I wrong. Tell me what you think and what toons have you seen take down necros.


K first of all you need more resists than just AR, AR is only swarming death's harm touch and blood, its main source of damage is a DR proc, and with my defilers nuke it is half dr and half melee. and the only tanks to ever beat my defiler so far have been heroic werehunters which i can come pretty close to beating. my non-resist epic blood helps alot in duels though.
#5 Jun 23 2006 at 8:13 AM Rating: Decent
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Ok, I am not seeing how a nec can stand up to most of the melee's in a duel. Low AC and the highest HP's I have heard is about 7k for a Nec. With Rangers/Monks etc pounding for 4-5k (2-3k quad plus 2k vital proc as an example from this thread) in the initial assault how do you stand up to them to get to a 3rd or fourth exchange?

From what I have read Nec's put points in Int Sta and Wis (for resists) and most ignore Str, Agi, Dex and Cha. How do you build a Nec to withstand the onslaught that a melee can dish at higher levels? They only have around 1500 AC potential dont they?
#6 Jun 23 2006 at 11:14 AM Rating: Decent
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My Channeler mops necs. I suppose with a nec with alot more cms then me could stand a chance, but I have my AR Maxed for huntin Xrags and I frequently need to show a nec what real damage is.
#7 Jun 24 2006 at 4:42 PM Rating: Decent
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my sage beats most..not all necros but my berserker owns them lol
#8 Jun 25 2006 at 9:48 AM Rating: Decent
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Ive seen heavily cmed sorcerers smoke LoP necs, Ive seen hwh sks pwn them when the nec has had a 100 to 200 cm advantage, DwH shaman ive seen almost every class put a hurting on necs since class balancing. The big difference is that necs pacts have a longer pact time so they cant just sit there and tap and pact themselves to stay alive.
#9 Jul 10 2006 at 2:21 PM Rating: Decent
I dont know about you but my Monk whos lv 56 can take necros up to lv 59. I do so much damage that the necro aint got time to even get a pact off before its too late. Unless the necro was a sage. Cause sages can resist alot of damage if they timed their stone skin ability. Cause my necro killed HWH plenty of times cause stone skin resisted some of their most powerful attacks.But one thing for sure is that NECRO AINT anything in duels. MONKs and RGES are though. A monk can beat a rge if they know what the hell they doing.
#10 Jul 13 2006 at 1:36 PM Rating: Good
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I don't duel much, but what dueling I have, I have never lost a match, especialy to a Nec.

I suppose there could a be a well built dueling Nec out there, how useful that would be I dunno...

And now, after CBing... Nec aint king of the toon class anymore!
#11 Jul 13 2006 at 3:05 PM Rating: Decent
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i can beat most necs on my wizzy thats the same LvL as me never tried one thats 55+ but im sure id do okay against it lol
#12 Jul 19 2006 at 3:54 AM Rating: Decent
I use to have a well built nec. Not just dueling but for raids aswell. i owned most all toons but chugging alc's. After reading about the class balancing it sounds as though necs aren't much of a dueling class anymore. I still think they are one of the most useful toons in game though. here are my reasons.
1. They do a fair share of damage.
2. The ability to pact comes in handy.
3. If it is a power nec with epic done they are a damb good battery.

i know this was off topic but i had to say it. Im still a big Nec fan.
#13 Jul 19 2006 at 9:34 AM Rating: Decent
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It doesnt matter when it comes to duels anyway. Dueling is just bragging rights and thats it besides being a waste of time.
#14 Jul 19 2006 at 4:19 PM Rating: Decent
Im not saying duels are a way of proving how good your toon is. i just enjoyed them because it was something to do. when you hit 60 which i have on many toons, and when not raiding or farming you just feel like putting a hurt on someone.
#15 Jul 19 2006 at 11:44 PM Rating: Decent
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If you want to put a hurting on someone try a wound path rogue, who needs backstab when your wounds hit for 2300 every 10-15 seconds or so.
#16 Jul 20 2006 at 12:07 AM Rating: Decent
10-15 Secs is a long time to wait to recast in a Duel IMO. Most high level duels are over quick unless there say healer or tank. DDs dont fight for very long. Yes there are exceptions and ive seen necs fight other necs for a bit. but in a fight with a rogue against a nec one or the other will die before you can cast most abilities twice. Rogues and Rangers are deadly against a crappy nec, or even a moderately built nec. Its all about how you build your toon. this has been said many of times. My toons are no diff. all i was saying is that duels aren't all that bad. i use them to brn time thats it. not to prove im the baddest toon on the game.
#17 Jul 20 2006 at 6:27 AM Rating: Decent
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i umm...used em for the baddiest toon around...AND I WON!! lol jk

but thats the reason i duel, to burn time if no grps are around, plus i love dueling ppl, my wizzy is really good in duels lol, plus i love having a bragging right over a 60 when/if i can beat them lol and theres been some ive beaten.
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