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#1 Apr 13 2006 at 2:30 AM Rating: Decent
Just wanted to get some in put on what tag to go on my wizzy. I even thought about not taging at all and just spending 800 cms on makeing him a beast with out a tag. What should i do
#2 Apr 13 2006 at 9:06 AM Rating: Excellent
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Well since you are concidering not taking a tag to save on CMs, and you are a gnome. Why not go with Tinker. There would be no stat or CM requirements and you could buy just the one MCA(the pet). I don't know having a pet at your side seems like it might be kinda fun. Just a thought.
#3 Apr 13 2006 at 9:43 AM Rating: Decent
Yes, a wizzy with a tinker pet would rule IMO.
#4 Apr 13 2006 at 9:56 AM Rating: Good
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crazydavis is right if you want to save all those precious cms go tinker, because a wizzy and that 50 pet can do some nasty dmg.
and there are no stat requirments but i think you still need at least 500cms spent, but its racial so its only 200cms to buy the tinker tag.

i have no tag either, but im going either sage for duels or sorcerer for the raids. because i rarely just do regular grinds anymore. or i may even go AwH because there good for both and i dont have a form.
#5 Apr 17 2006 at 5:57 PM Rating: Decent
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on a hunch, i wanted to see how high i could get my wizzys hp/pow witout a tag. At about 775 cms i got a massive 8 k hp and 7 k power, my dex and int were fairly high 510 ish. With those wizzy nuke upgrades, i can quad(1 sec cast) cast about 12000 dam (without novas) plus another 20000 with lightning and fire nova/super nova combo. With that damage i didnt need need a mc to whip but in duels.
#6 Apr 17 2006 at 8:58 PM Rating: Decent
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on a hunch, i wanted to see how high i could get my wizzys hp/pow witout a tag. At about 775 cms i got a massive 8 k hp and 7 k power, my dex and int were fairly high 510 ish. With those wizzy nuke upgrades, i can quad(1 sec cast) cast about 12000 dam (without novas) plus another 20000 with lightning and fire nova/super nova combo. With that damage i didnt need need a mc to whip but in duels


wow 8k hp, thats alot for a wizzy i wish i have that much at 60, i only have 4325hp(in lion form) on fist hes 50 and 485cms, dex,495 int220(int is base) only get roundish 5k power.
#7 Apr 18 2006 at 10:30 AM Rating: Decent
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yeh it was alot but without tag i just bought every hp fac, hp upgrade, and sta bonus i could find. I was low on power too but the mana path buff is pretty sick its about 1k power and enough pot to put me at about 205 with just the arcane pot cm bought.
#8 Apr 18 2006 at 11:53 AM Rating: Good
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I just switched from sage to channeler. With the 20 min recast on channel it is finally worth it. Also Manaplast does about 4500 damage with my 550 dex. Im lovin it I kill so quickly.
#9 Apr 20 2006 at 2:45 PM Rating: Decent
I taged my wiz tinker in hopes that the pet is descent. Also allowed my to buy all the PoT cms i could get stats wise im at 515 dex 490 int and 265 sta, only have about 2.4k hps self buffed and 9.2k power. He is lvl 57 so im hoping to break 3k hps and 10k power self buffed by the time im 60, dont know if i can get that much hps in 3lvls. Having 250 PoT is great though i really have to chain nuke hard to go oom.
#10 Apr 20 2006 at 6:45 PM Rating: Good
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i wish my wizzy can go tinker. but hes human(qeynos), but my sage tag is doing the job good enough.

and has anyone else seen the increase in sages? when i asked them why they changed both necs and wizzys they said because since we are getting aggro so much that SS is saving our asses when tanks lose aggro.

Edited, Sat Apr 22 11:17:09 2006 by newbtoon
#11 Apr 21 2006 at 9:35 AM Rating: Good
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Thats not why they are going sage. SS admittedly is great but it is only good for soloinnameds and duelin. The SS only lasts 30 seconds and the recast is 10 minutes so it really isnt saving anyone from aggro.Its also good for takin the crit on raid mobs so I would suggest ignoring Sage if you are depending on casting SS to save you from aggro. SS is a last resort always. But it is effective if you are trying to get mobs for the 50+ quests.
#12 Apr 21 2006 at 11:23 AM Rating: Decent
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yes, same thing with the rangers they all swithched from hunters to forresters because of the ss type ability. Now they are super tough duelers/pullers for big raid types.
#13 Apr 22 2006 at 4:12 PM Rating: Good
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i went sage for the dueling nothing else, i can solo without SS, and on raids never have to use it unless the tank is new.
#14 Jun 03 2006 at 5:51 PM Rating: Default
wow im a lvl 49 wizzy and i have 7569 pwr wow your power sucks
#15 Jun 04 2006 at 7:34 PM Rating: Good
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shortymcman wrote:
wow im a lvl 49 wizzy and i have 7569 pwr wow your power sucks


lol you have more power than me, i have 6k power when im not in grp gear but it doesnt get much higher than that in grp gear lol.

but your a good grp wizzy while im a bad *** soloer/dueler, ill never be able to go a long time in grps, i dont want to lol, i made my wizzy how i wanted to lol and im glad with it. but you cant say our power sucks(refering to all the wizzys built to duel/solo with low power) tho it does but we didnt build our wizzys to have that kind of power lol, we could if we want lol mind you but we choose not to. but you have real nice power good job.
#16 Jul 22 2006 at 12:49 PM Rating: Default
1st off this is eliphaz,not cresto, hailing from clw proudly, and former high sorcery master The all wiz guild, which only in the latest months went inactive,only becaaus of my lack of time; currently im a member of AOE.My elf wiz is a sorc, strictly becaus i'm a hardcore dd and luv the aoes.I couldnt imagine not taking a tag, w/my 655 dex 55o int(soon to do wh qst :) i maintain a large pwr base w/steady high end dmg on 1 or more targets.Asfor tinker i could see the +'s of saving pre req cms, but the cost of losing a more functionable mca outways saving the cm's.I never especially cared 4 racial tag's on wiz's ; even scholar can be surpassed in pwr by a chann w/proper building imo.Now with sage and the balancing changes the tag stat maxs alone make it a viable choice, not to mention how mant slots it can open in inv w/those crazy bases and both mca's are xcellent for wiz's.In the end a tink is only useful in-itself if you want to solo w/a pet to tank,which isnt so bad i kno kiting is fun. In the end i think it comes down to playstyle, and my own biases are as follows:for soloing i'd prefer sage or merc (Rayslan;)for raiding i like sorc but chann can work well,grinding chann hands down ,unless theres adds or batts in which case im prejudiced to sorc;as for dueling sage will definitly take it,,unless yoou kite'm ;0 ..
#17 Jul 22 2006 at 1:08 PM Rating: Decent
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for dueling sage will definitly take it,,unless yoou kite'm ;0 ..


I still dont see this as a problem, kiting a wizzy is kinda stupid lol no? If you kite me im just gonna keep nuking your *** lol. that extra 100+ DMG we do in a regular hit is nothing lol.
#18 Jul 22 2006 at 3:52 PM Rating: Decent
If i kite you (not possible bein your on dh) you die; once SS falls my superiour dex and nukes = your demise. If i try to nuke thru SS i suicide.As eny1 w/xperince kiten knows, you allways go for cover when kiting a caster.Still i wouldnt offer up eny other wiz build as best duelr simply because toe to toe is the only recognized form of dueling in respect to props, nevermind the aspects of dueling other classes,in which cases the majority of the time a sage is more well rounded to meet whatever mite come his way.(eliphaz clw)
#19 Jul 22 2006 at 5:28 PM Rating: Decent
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Haha I love you man, just for making a thread called WIZZY TAGS. Seriously it's probably the best thread name I've seen in a long time here, really stands out, I love you.

Oh and your name's GNOMENUKER man that's even better, your my hero
#20 Jul 22 2006 at 6:28 PM Rating: Decent
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cresto wrote:
If i kite you (not possible bein your on dh) you die; once SS falls my superiour dex and nukes = your demise. If i try to nuke thru SS i suicide.As eny1 w/xperince kiten knows, you allways go for cover when kiting a caster.Still i wouldnt offer up eny other wiz build as best duelr simply because toe to toe is the only recognized form of dueling in respect to props, nevermind the aspects of dueling other classes,in which cases the majority of the time a sage is more well rounded to meet whatever mite come his way.(eliphaz clw)


I still dont see this as a problem lol, if you kite me, when you nuke..i nuke.. when your standing behind a wall ima drink/eat LOL. But i think HP will be a deciding factor here as well...mine is 4325Hp. im still hoping to have 6k at 60 lol, i did some CM counting and i think i can pull it off.

but i do see what your saying, but this really only works well against other casters/ and anyone else..not another wizzy tho...unless said wizzy is really really stupid and just stays there and not even mush the button for your nuke lol..
#21 Jul 23 2006 at 12:33 PM Rating: Decent
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ok the funniest thing about this post is half the duels i got into the dds would complain if i moved one inch. They complained if i did anything but stand in one spot and outright nuke. Kiting is fine but you also have to take into consideration 2 things 99% of wizzys now a days are channelers. There mca is a root nuke combo, granted i dont know how effective it is in a duel but its there. Secondly 100% of wizzys have root, its a wizzys best friend and blow for blow a wizzy with hi dex will murder other classes especially one that tries to kite but gets rooted out of range of normal attacks.
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