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#1 Jul 22 2005 at 12:56 PM Rating: Decent
Just a little confused. I recently tried to reactivate my EQOA account but finally gave up when I couldn’t get anyone at SOE to help me. I was basically just given the run around. No huge surprise there so I just figured I would buy a new copy of the game only no one carries it anymore. The only place I could even find to order it was on SOE web site. Is the game being phased out?
#2 Jul 22 2005 at 1:01 PM Rating: Decent
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Is EQOA being phased out?

soon, not right nowand what i mean is that once ps3 comes out this games gone
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recently tried to reactivate my EQOA account but finally gave up when I couldn’t get anyone at SOE to help me.

Thats typical costumer suport
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only no one carries it anymore. The only place I could even find to order it was on SOE web site

try amazon.com, they have had that game in stocks for awhile and still do unless it changed recently.
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Edited, Fri Jul 22 14:01:53 2005 by SefanaPPO

Edited, Fri Jul 22 14:09:20 2005 by SefanaPPO
#3 Jul 22 2005 at 2:16 PM Rating: Decent
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Is EQOA being phased out? The answer to that will be no time soon.
#4 Jul 22 2005 at 2:20 PM Rating: Good
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Even after the ps3 comes out, I dont see alot of people quitting unless there is an expansion.
#5 Jul 22 2005 at 2:27 PM Rating: Good
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Even after the ps3 comes out, I dont see alot of people quitting unless there is an expansion


I could. First warning sign is rasing of rates. Second sign is how quickly they are making updates to try and keep the veteran players instead of trying to hook new players.

It wont die soon, but it wont have a playing life quite like Diablo either.
#6 Jul 22 2005 at 2:45 PM Rating: Excellent
do people still play diablo? Boy has it been a while since I played that. To bad my characters were on my old pc.
#7 Jul 22 2005 at 2:51 PM Rating: Good
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well diablo 2, but yeah. its still going. it think its partly because the servers are much easier to run than the EQOA ones are.

#8 Jul 22 2005 at 2:57 PM Rating: Decent
Your right Sefana, the lack of support from customer support is typical of SOE. I¡¦ve played all of the EQ titles and it¡¦s always been that way. What was throwing me for a loop was they appear to be still updating/patching this game and this forum at least appears to be pretty active but no one carries the game anymore. Then again if it isn¡¦t flying off the self like the latest Harry Potter book it probably doesn¡¦t get restocked. Either way I¡¦m burned out on WOW and EQ2 and since ¡§yumi sister yuri¡¨ is going to stick around I¡¦ll order a copy from SOE. ƒº Thanks everyone.
#9 Jul 22 2005 at 2:58 PM Rating: Excellent
well there is not as much that you can do in diablo 2, eqoa actually looks extremly complicated compared to D2.
#10 Jul 22 2005 at 2:58 PM Rating: Decent
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Your right Sefana, the lack of support from customer support is typical of SOE.

i meant typical customer suport for any company, you always get put on hold and then the people cant help you
#11 Jul 23 2005 at 2:43 AM Rating: Decent
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Yup that is typical SOE customer support for all their games, it's not just EQOA.

I have been trying to transfer a char in Star Wars Galaxies for the last few weeks now. You would think any business would bend over backwards to try and get my US $60 in their pocket but not SOE. I've been sent a multitude of emails from different support people at SOE all telling me to contact some other support people at SOE.. and so on..

I gave up a few days ago and just spent the money on food.. how sad is that for gamer??
#12 Jul 23 2005 at 10:56 AM Rating: Decent
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Eqoa will be discontinued about the end of next year. Ps3 is slated to come out early to mid next year. They will wait at least 6 months of the Ps3 to be on the market to have the customer % high. Then they will release some new mmorpg to replace eqoa do some in game advertising then evict eqoa players.


In game message will read:
"[]Citizens of norath Thanks for your thousands of dollars now get the **** out[/]"


Edited, Sat Jul 23 11:57:06 2005 by darkandsinfull
#13 Jul 23 2005 at 12:00 PM Rating: Decent
I don't read SOE forums or anything, but in-game they aren't really showing signs of phasing out.. new quests and stuff. But it makes sense that they would by the time ps3 comes out, even if they don't release a console mmo.
#14 Jul 23 2005 at 1:19 PM Rating: Decent
dark wrote:
"[]Citizens of norath Thanks for your thousands of dollars now get the @#%^ out[/]"

Lol, I could actually see that happening too.
#15 Jul 23 2005 at 4:49 PM Rating: Decent
Well I was going to start a thread about this very subject but we have one already so cool.I came back to eq on ps2 after a year break and I am getting into again but wondered about how much life was left in the game.

I was reading on IGN that EQ on PS2 was considered a failure from the get go and wondered what basis they had for it.I mean they have six servers for this game still and there still seem to be alot of peeps playing it.The IGN article was saying that FFXI was the way to go considering that xbox 360 is going to pick it up do to its popularity.I tried FFXI when it first came out but disliked some things about it.I was going to start it up again if this game was going out considering that I really did not want to invest more time in a worthless endeavor.Then they were talking about Phantasy star as being the first real competition for FFXI when it hits the market.Also hear WOW was raking the cash and was the premier MMORPG currently.Regardless I do not play on my pc I prefer doing it on my ps2 and was just wondering which direction I should go,stay with EQ,go back to FF or get Phantasy star.
#16 Jul 23 2005 at 4:55 PM Rating: Good
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I left EQOA for FFXI close to a year ago, I've actually came back to EQOA for a visit not too long ago. There was pretty much no change at all to me, freeport seemed crowded and full of shouts, many of my friends (the ones who didn't come with me to FFXI) were still there. And I had noticed they were still updating the game, adding new quests, and everyone was excited about level 60 epics being introduced.

I really do miss EQOA at times, sure its outdated compared to the newer mmorpgs on the market today, but its simplicity is something that no mmorpg I've played has yet to come close to (and there's no reason why they should) but that's something I've always loved about the game.

Now onto your question, I really don't think they're phasing out EQOA, the game still have a team of devs and they seem to be working on the game. I think there's still enough people who give SoE their money to play this game for them to discontinue support for it. I see no reason why another console mmorpg would cause them to stop this one, it's not like this is SoE's only mmorpg around. This reminds me of the time when FFXI came out and everyone was like "oh no! everyone's gonna leave and EQOA's gonna die!!!111!1111!" Yeah people left, I became one of those people eventually, but the game didn't die due to the release of another console mmorpg. :)
#17 Jul 23 2005 at 5:07 PM Rating: Good
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wyldechylde wrote:
.Regardless I do not play on my pc I prefer doing it on my ps2 and was just wondering which direction I should go,stay with EQ,go back to FF or get Phantasy star.


I'm sort of in that boat too, I currently play FFXI though admittedly when I first got the HDD and tried the game last Summer I disliked the game also. But a few months later I came with about 8 friends from EQOA and I haven't left since.

I too have heard many people say EQOA was a failure and I can understand that a lot of EQ fans were fairly disappointed with the game but it was my first mmorpg and as I stated in my above post, I love the game for its simplicity. Now I haven't heard anything about a new Phantasy Star game but a new mmorpg may drag a few people away from existing ones but never destroys them.

But really play what's fun to you, I know a lot of people jump the bandwagon and just head to what's newest and most popular (which has been me on a few occasions) but if EQOA is what's fun for you, stick with it! I don't see it dying anytime soon :) Doesn't matter if WoW boasts more popularity or if PSO boasts better gameplay, all that matters in the end is what you like.
#18 Jul 23 2005 at 5:43 PM Rating: Decent
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PSO: blueburst is free to download 2 weeks free trial and 8.95 a month to play. It's the same as it was on dreamcast, gamecube, xbox except they added new content. They were scheduled for a fully mmorpg pso universe but they killed it.
#19 Jul 24 2005 at 4:56 PM Rating: Decent
They killed the PSO universe that is slated to come out in FEb of 2006?I had not heard that.

Anyway I feel a little torn at times.FF looks so nice and seems to be the in thing to do with so many subscribers.Then with EQ I do love it's simplicity and I have heard FF can be very difficult to play.I like the fact that if I can not find a group for my higher lev characters to play with I can just solo one of my lower levs with no problem or work on a craft skill or just plain earn money if all its is going slow.Extra characters up to 8 with no extra cost is a big bonus in my book.

How is FF with trying to play it solo are there areas to xp in that allow it or do you need a group to play it regardless of what lev you are?
#20 Jul 24 2005 at 7:54 PM Rating: Decent
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think about this theory....

PS3 comes out and few months later a new EQOA game(expansion) is released.

Remember when Frontiers was leased, it could have been used as an expansion or a new game to someone new to EQOA.

New PS3 EQOA has all the content of Frontiers plus 5-10x more added content. Future expansions are infinite with the hard drive in PS3.

New level cap to 80, 90, 100, etc

Many more races, classes, quests, items, spells, etc added for levels 1-60 to attract players new to the game.

Same servers are used. Players can log on just we did from EQOA to Frontiers.

Game will be backwards compatible with players still using PS2 with Frontiers or Original.. those using older games wont be able to travel in new areas, same rule as Frontiers is to orignal eqoa.

this theory seems the best way to keep most of us older players and to attract new players.

comments good and bad welcome
#21 Jul 24 2005 at 8:48 PM Rating: Decent
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think about this theory....

PS3 comes out and few months later a new EQOA game(expansion) is released.

Remember when Frontiers was leased, it could have been used as an expansion or a new game to someone new to EQOA.

New PS3 EQOA has all the content of Frontiers plus 5-10x more added content. Future expansions are infinite with the hard drive in PS3.

New level cap to 80, 90, 100, etc

Many more races, classes, quests, items, spells, etc added for levels 1-60 to attract players new to the game.

Same servers are used. Players can log on just we did from EQOA to Frontiers.

Game will be backwards compatible with players still using PS2 with Frontiers or Original.. those using older games wont be able to travel in new areas, same rule as Frontiers is to orignal eqoa.

this theory seems the best way to keep most of us older players and to attract new players.

comments good and bad welcome



Aint gonna happen eqoa is gonna be dead and forgotten like that guy who died yesterday..umm what's his name eh i forget


And they wont give any other classes that is not in the eq lore. They will not go higher on level caps then PC version
They will not give a rats *** about this game.

If you read previous threads on the PS3 discussion you will see the ability of the PS3 is trully a computer 2 GForce 7800 graphic cards which EQ2 only requires 1. Why bother creating an expansion for a game that has maybe 15% of the player size of EQ and EQ2 when they can combine the two like they did with FFxi. Why hope for an expansion on this when we can get the love of EQ or EQ2.

In comparison putting eqoa on the PS3 is like releasing the original pong on ps3 it's just sub par
#22 Jul 24 2005 at 9:59 PM Rating: Good
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darkandsinfull wrote:
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think about this theory....

PS3 comes out and few months later a new EQOA game(expansion) is released.

Remember when Frontiers was leased, it could have been used as an expansion or a new game to someone new to EQOA.

New PS3 EQOA has all the content of Frontiers plus 5-10x more added content. Future expansions are infinite with the hard drive in PS3.

New level cap to 80, 90, 100, etc

Many more races, classes, quests, items, spells, etc added for levels 1-60 to attract players new to the game.

Same servers are used. Players can log on just we did from EQOA to Frontiers.

Game will be backwards compatible with players still using PS2 with Frontiers or Original.. those using older games wont be able to travel in new areas, same rule as Frontiers is to orignal eqoa.

this theory seems the best way to keep most of us older players and to attract new players.

comments good and bad welcome



Aint gonna happen eqoa is gonna be dead and forgotten like that guy who died yesterday..umm what's his name eh i forget


And they wont give any other classes that is not in the eq lore. They will not go higher on level caps then PC version
They will not give a rats *** about this game.

If you read previous threads on the PS3 discussion you will see the ability of the PS3 is trully a computer 2 GForce 7800 graphic cards which EQ2 only requires 1. Why bother creating an expansion for a game that has maybe 15% of the player size of EQ and EQ2 when they can combine the two like they did with FFxi. Why hope for an expansion on this when we can get the love of EQ or EQ2.

In comparison putting eqoa on the PS3 is like releasing the original pong on ps3 it's just sub par


If you look at the game FFXI, it was ported to PC from ps2. Due to the fact that they game developers were limited by the graphics engine of ps2.. the graphics aren't that great on the PC version. You could say they're.. subpar. Despite the game being subpar, they still decided to release the game on PC. And if that isn't enough.. the very same subpar game is also scheduled to be released as one of the first games available for Xbox 360. While they do boast better graphics, they're still limited by the fact that the game has to work with ps2.

Now I understand the graphics aren't the only reason why you considered EQOA subpar. True the current playerbase doesn't come close to that of EQLive or EQ2 but personally I think if they considered the population of the game low enough to discontinue support for the game.. they would've done so a long time ago. Really though.. it seems everytime something new is announced that threatens EQOA's existence many people run their mouth saying things such as "EQOA's gonna die" either due to everyone leaving or the devs just ending the game. It happened when FFXI was announced, it happened when EQ2 was announced.. now it's happening with PS3.

Everytime I look up EQOA, I still see the devs are updating the game, I still see multiple forums still populated and visited everyday by people.. if this is a dead game or a game that's going to die soon.. this is a really odd way of showing it.

When PS3 is released, will they make an expansion? I don't know. But I sure know the devs aren't gonna say "Well.. there's a new system out.. I don't give a rats *** about you guys anymore!"

And about the increased level cap comment.. I really don't see how the fact that this is a prequel to EQLive would restrict what the level cap can be, seems irrelevent to me. As far as Lore goes, EQLive has never played much of a limiting factor in the devs creating new and interesting Lore for the game. In many of their updates they always add new and fun stories like with the plague, lycanthropy, and the continuing zombie/gnome story. Also they even added new epics for level 60 players each class with their own storyline.
#23 Jul 24 2005 at 10:08 PM Rating: Decent
Sage at 53 posts? weird...
#24 Jul 24 2005 at 10:09 PM Rating: Good
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wyldechylde wrote:
They killed the PSO universe that is slated to come out in FEb of 2006?I had not heard that.

Anyway I feel a little torn at times.FF looks so nice and seems to be the in thing to do with so many subscribers.Then with EQ I do love it's simplicity and I have heard FF can be very difficult to play.I like the fact that if I can not find a group for my higher lev characters to play with I can just solo one of my lower levs with no problem or work on a craft skill or just plain earn money if all its is going slow.Extra characters up to 8 with no extra cost is a big bonus in my book.

How is FF with trying to play it solo are there areas to xp in that allow it or do you need a group to play it regardless of what lev you are?


As a long-term player of FFXI I can tell you that this game is all about cooperative gameplay. Soloing is pretty much impossible in this game I hate to say with most jobs. But it's understandable why this is. From the ground up the jobs in this game were designed with the fact that they'd be playing specific roles in parties, very little (if any) thought was given to an individuals job to solo. Unlike a game such as World of Warcraft where soloing and PvP was in mind at the very beginning of the games development. The upside is the games is very populated so finding people your level is never difficult. However don't think you won't have to spend awhile waiting for a party, it really depends on the time you play and the job you are (sadly the game is a bit unbalanced when it comes to jobs but then again.. what mmorpg isn't?). Though I should also mention that there's one job, beastmaster, that was designed just to solo (though they use a pet so technically I guess you could say they duo).

Although the good thing is that due to competition with WoW and the games allowance of soloing, its caused others mmorpgs to try and compete with them by making it easier to solo. This is especailly evident in EQ2 where over the past few months they have added a large amount of solo content. Well FFXI had recently jumped the bandwagon and made the first step in creating a more solo-friendly environment for players (by adding a NPC aid to adventure alongside with you). Maybe in the future you'll see more soloing in FFXI but I'm not too sure.
#25 Jul 24 2005 at 10:11 PM Rating: Good
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Shadower wrote:
Sage at 53 posts? weird...


lol, most of my early posting on allakhazam consisted of fairly popular guides on the FFXI White Mage job forums. Got quite a few rate ups I guess..
#26 Jul 24 2005 at 10:15 PM Rating: Decent
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Now I understand the graphics aren't the only reason why you considered EQOA subpar. True the current playerbase doesn't come close to that of EQLive or EQ2 but personally I think if they considered the population of the game low enough to discontinue support for the game.. they would've done so a long time ago. Really though.. it seems everytime something new is announced that threatens EQOA's existence many people run their mouth saying things such as "EQOA's gonna die" either due to everyone leaving or the devs just ending the game. It happened when FFXI was announced, it happened when EQ2 was announced.. now it's happening with PS3.



Your way off on what im saying. People want an expansion of a good game understandable. But whats the point of putting an older game on a system that would be medicore when they can create something grand. It's like playing ff3 on playstation 2 still a good game but it's a waste of a system that can give something better.

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Everytime I look up EQOA, I still see the devs are updating the game, I still see multiple forums still populated and visited everyday by people.. if this is a dead game or a game that's going to die soon.. this is a really odd way of showing it.


Face the facts the game is dying be it 1 day or 50 years eventually everything dies.

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When PS3 is released, will they make an expansion? I don't know. But I sure know the devs aren't gonna say "Well.. there's a new system out.. I don't give a rats *** about you guys anymore!"


I take it you've never spoken with a GM or a dev cause they trully dont give a **** never have. Trying to get info or help is damn near impossible or there help is too little too confusing and way too late.


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And about the increased level cap comment.. I really don't see how the fact that this is a prequel to EQLive would restrict what the level cap can be, seems irrelevent to me. As far as Lore goes, EQLive has never played much of a limiting factor in the devs creating new and interesting Lore for the game. In many of their updates they always add new and fun stories like with the plague, lycanthropy, and the continuing zombie/gnome story. Also they even added new epics for level 60 players each class with their own storyline.



Because there bread and butter being eq would ***** that eqoa has higher levels and they would demand it and sony would have to put them down and say wait a year then more ********* It just wont happen.
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