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[lg][/lg][b][/b][i][/i]I recently applied for a guild on marrs fist server in a guild we can call KT. I recieved a note denying me cause I had characters they couldn't use. See I have 2 enchanters 1 spellbinder 1 animator both 60 or course also a 60 pally gaurdian as well as a 57 sk a 51 bard and a 51 mag good for Coh. I was told we have enough power and tanks aren't needed either. So this brings me to my point what kind of guild denies a person not for who they are but what they have. I play daily, I play fairly, I have extensive knowledge of what and where things are, I am very helpful. But all they was conserned with was oh you have an enchanter and we have enough power. When I explained enchanters also charm have a great pet, have a arcane debuff and a buff, they can calm a mob when only one wants to be pulled I got banded from any other post plus my note which was simliar to this was removed as well as my application to get in. So all i have to say now is try to kill this message KT Masters. I will be heard Kt can not silence me.

Well you are applying to a guild, they are not trying to recruit you. So they are only going to take what they want, if you apply for a job, they wont hire you because you applied, only if they need you. If they already have enough enc, bards and tanks why should they get more. Also remember the bigger the guild the harder to manage, by just allowing anyone that applies in just leads to trouble.


The thing is the guild doesnt know you, you are just a stranger off the street. They dont know your reputation, they dont know what you learnt about the game, and they dont know if you bought those toons or not. So the guild not letting you in because you dont have anything they desire is logical. If you want in a good guild, talk to some members, group with them, let someone in guild know who you are, this is much more effective for both sides for finding a good match.

Since you were on their message board, they had the right to remove your posts, just like Haggan can remove this post if he so chooses. KT can also silence you here if they so choose, you are on a site with a Karma system that allows members to sub default post so people dont have to see them. You dont know how many KT members are here and have rating ability.

[b][/b][i][/i]Ok point taken you are right if they don't need something then don't take. But why would they remove a post and application for guild acceptance with people who had possitive things to say. The post had no foul language, it didn't give the immpression the guild was bad, Plus it did include my knowledge of the game examples of why a chanter is more then power ect. So my only conclussion to being removed so others can't read is cause they felt i was right and didn't want others to know..

[b][/b][i][/i]The info I had wasn't pasted guess i should have made that clear the info i have is stuff learned from playing a few years common since type things such as spawn rates locations,or quest that I have done many times. The dumb stuff that still needs to be answered IE where is the spawn of something needed to complete a quest, or what items are needed for wiz or druids for pos port. The things you see pop up on guild chat. Also if guild members were the only to be posted on forums how was I able to in first place never have been a member. finally applications as i seen have been there forever some in guild some not I take notice of things and noticed I was only one removed. But thanks for your comments It helps me fill in the blanks so others get a better ideal. Keep righting your comments as I will keep responding. Take care J

thats is true too Unwanted characters. Which brings up a whole new topic. when will they stop nerfing the enchanters. I have to laugh first there not wanted in groups now there not really a must for guilds too.

Nerf enc, how have you come up with that thought. Overall Enc are one of the ones that have improved the most since release.

It does more then add to the role on rares, if the guild has the batteries and tanks it needs already, then any extra ones fall into just DDing. Now given that raids can be laggy, you want the minium amount of people to kill it the fastest. That means for DD's you want the most damaging for optimum DPS, and batteries and tanks lower dps compared to wizzies and other heavy hitters.


Dont underestimate lag, it is almost as deadly to raids as having leroy on your side.

What changed with calm? How did they change a spell that lowered the awarness range of a mob to make it unusable? Shoot there isnt even a single gripe about it on the main forums, or on the update page so I cant even tell if any thing ever happened.

What do you mean cut? Do you mean it lasts less then 5 minutes like it used to? Because I doubt they would shorten the duration back to the original settings. Or do you mean they limited what mobs you can charm, well that is not a nerf. There have always been the idea that certain mobs were to be uncharmable. If you read the original updates any mob that was immune to root was also to be immune to charm. A lot of mobs should be uncharmable or highly resistant to charm, it adds to the roleplaying aspects, anything with high int and wis should have high resistance to charms. For fairness any mob used in a quest should be uncharmable, any super powered mob should be uncharmable, or highly resistant to charm, after all if the mob gained that much power, how could a simple spell make it a kitten. Your nerfed ebon recluse is a quest mob, and super powered. Just being a quest mob means it should of been uncharmable.

Though I agree that having all AR based for damage is a problem for enc, it is not a nerf. Enc were always AR based, nerfs are changes made by the devs. Hopefully they will add more damage types to enc spells.

So here is an idea, lets give enc 2 type of spells for damage, and the second type replaces this line of spells. You wont lose anything since if a mob is AR you use the other line.

How is this a nerf, nothing changed, enc stil have the best charms, and if this item is a strong as the enc charms it wont be for long. BTW where did SoE ever say enc would be the only ones to charm, it is not the domain of enc. Notice their name is enchanter not charmer. It is also logical for bards, drds, ran, necs to charm, in fact a lot of lore support these classes charming. If there are spells to charm, would it be logical for the spells to be store into items, invis can be, sow can be. But it is amazing that Puppet strings are a problem now, they have only been in the game as long as CT. BTW they only charm mobs up to 50, are off of CT so not anyone can get one, and have a 30 minute dur, no where close to what an enc can do.

Again not a nerf, these classes have been providing power since day one. And again where have enc been promised to be the sole mana battery in game, never. You are confusing Nerfs with stuff you do not agree with, and other classes you are jealous of.


Overall these nerfs you mentioned are nothing compared to the benefits enc have gained, BTW you did forget to mention the dex mod nerf enc had from a while back.


Out of what you mentioned there was one possible nerf, the calm thing. But since I couldnt even find the crybabies on the main site upset about it, I wouldnt call it a nerf. Meanwill enc have gained.

Longer duration on charms
Pets that are not guardians, and will taunt and heal, and the lvls of the early pets to be of better use.
Improved disguise cms
They improved enc power spells

These well out weigh the one supposed nerf you mentioned.
Improved the levels charms are good for

You are saying the ench have been one of the best improved. For one the improvements are for the lower level ench. I would like to know how a level 60 ench spellbinder with it's 2 hour charm which use to be a permacharm is improved. Now lets talk improvements which can be seen. A bard can now charm. A nec and druid can now charm. also a nec can provide mana. these are but a few things which I see are different. What can an ench do like the above examples that they were unable to do before.

i know im repeating what dirges said but enchanters still have the best chamrs. They can charm the most power fulll mobs and hihghest levels and have no mob type charm resstrictions like necs and druids.

Enchaters can charm any kind of mob and have the longest charm

Bards can charm any kind as well but cant charm something as high level as a enchater and less duration and 120 cms to get

Necs can only charm undead

druids can only charm animals

enchaters are still by far the best charmers in game.

Edited, Thu Jul 14 18:16:24 2005 by SefanaPPO

Or be freidns with a freind of the master
how i got my guild.
my guilds not selective tho.

[/b][b][i][/i]What your missing is the enchanter started with a charm, mana, and a pet. With updates the nec got a charm, and the option to do mana as well. The bard now had the option to charm. The druid had an option to charm. The mag got coh. So you get the point and i am not going to name every class. And what did the chanter get that it did not have already. I am not talking longer or better I am talking new as I listed above. I can't believe I have to simplify things on these post. What I mean is from day one when necs didn't have provide mana, mags didn't have coh, bards didn't have a charm all which was unique to a chanter. What special treat was the chanter given that was unique to another such as nec, bard ect. Hopefully now you get what I am saying.

wizards have the best damage for caster. I am not asking who is best what The best charm in the world doesn't help an animator. Nor does the best charm help with raid mobs. Before you list one or two raid mobs it might I am saying give the chanter something new not improved. How about a diff damage other then arc. or if we want to get silly a spell that will want more then 2 chanters in a guild which by the way is what this post started off as. Or a charm that would allow us to get a group easier then others. we provide mana woohoo only so much mana a person can use. We can charm the best but only if there is mobs to charm which is far an wide on raid mobs.