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Ok, here's my beef with this kind of response. And Sol, please don't think I have any problem with you at all, cuz I don't. It's just that I am fed up with people thinking there is only one way to play this game and that's for tanks to tank, healers to heal, casters to stand back and cast, and for all of us to play in "normal" 4-person, perfectly balanced groups.

Normal groups are like "normal" families...they just don't exist!

Sometimes, casters gotta take hits, for whatever reason, and at the level we were talking about (Aura of Karana, level 26) mobs do not quad, and 200 more AC will definitely help a caster survive a hit or two. And at 26, that makes a difference in continuing your soloing, or farming, or your all-wizzie non-traditional group, W/E!

Many people, myself included (along with a certain high-level wizzie who likes to tank :D), do not play the same way some other people play. Doesn't make it wrong, not by a long shot.

/end ranting defense of us weirdos who like to run off on our own...

I do agree, ac is needed, and Nursie had it, normal groups are like normal families, not real hehe. Maybe a while ago but not in this day and age when people buy 60's for $200 >.< (I never met anyone who has done this and had NO IDEAR what they were doing, until the other day)
Although I do agree with what he said, 200 ac isn't going to let you live a crit/quad (maybe if you already have 450-750, but not if that extra 200 is doubleing your ac, hence your ac is currently 200). But with further knowelege of the level were talking about (26) 200 more ac is pretty good.
I agree again with Nursie, abnormal groups (dd groups especially) are fun. And even in treditional groups your still going to pull argo, lol I don't know where that fits in but bah, people these days aren't all that great, thats why I like buffs :)

Do you not understand that higher AC means you will take less damage from hits? So, maybe you can last 5 hits instead of 3, and give the tank that much more time to grab aggro back. Sheesh!

ur talking what an xtra 200 ac? i have a tank and there is really no difference between 0 and 200 ac, i still get hit for the same dmg. the only real difference in damage would be like 200 ac to 700 ac and so on
*notice i was a scholar b4 i posted on this thread lol

Edited, Fri Jul 8 14:22:30 2005 by Soledus

your still missing the point... no matter how much AC you have you still will die in a few hits, unless your an all hp wizzy that can't do crap for dmg
*btw back on topic.. crystalline orb is farmed from Tak Frostbiter, when i normally farm i kill every cleric/ratter and he usually spawns within 30 minutes. sometimes he has the shield equipped and others he doesn't. the the orb itself is a rare drop off of him and sometimes it can drop instantly while others takes awhile, anyways hope this helps

Edited, Fri Jul 8 18:31:50 2005 by Soledus

Actually it is you that doesnt understand. What you said is true to tanks as well as every class, why should tanks have ac if it gimps their damage?


What we are saying is any character is a hinderance to a group without enough defensive stats. Yes a wizzy is going to die, but extra ac can keep them alieve long enough for several things to happen. What good is a dead wizzy? How is doing less damage worst then doing no damage?