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Actually..

600 x 1.25 = 750

750 + 800 = 1,550

Anyways, u, base damage 800? Hmm, ouch.. Bravo owns that, now I need to edit my post AGAIN..

But hell, I don't care..

Just so you all who actually read my post, some stuff towards the end (Info on bravo and after) had some stuff added..

Now, maybe I will edit my post tomorrow and add this in..

As a Bravo, there is one really bad downside..

It's called sacrifice.. Unless you just love CMing, you really aren't able to buy a whole lot of extra (Actually, almost nothing)

Now, Bravo requires the top four stat max raisers and all BRavo CMs..

That's 480 CMs right there.. that means you can buy one CM that costs 20 and you are ready to grind for that MC..

This means no heal spell, none of that extra crap..

My bard has only bite, bravo, and the bravo reqs.

Unfortunately I had to delete my 2nd and 3rd wereform, my 2 off. mods, my def. mods.. My half recasts..

Just about everything..

But, I do not think the half recasts are worth the CM cost..

I already have my ability set planned out.. And there isn't room for them anyways.. So paying 80 or 100 CMs for one ability I will use every 45 seconds or so is not worth it to me..

Now I noticed this.. One of those "big specials" = one attack..

Seriously.. during grinds.. I am hitting for a min. of 500 per hit, (That's on Xrags, which con white-red, on non-Xrag mobs I do way more since they are DB-LBs)

Now, seeing as how my 20 does 300 or 350, or is it 250? I don't remember..

I just know that it takes my 20 and 29 to equal one hit..

39 what's it do? 700-750? 49.. Is about 950? And 60 is like 1.1k?

Bite does like 1,050.. 50 power, 30 recast..

Anyways, on to the point.. The half recast CMs just aren't worth it when it comes down to it..

I hope you get what I am saying..

As for the heal spells, I am hoping to SOME DAy get the PoD bard spell for Hymm of Nife which is a nice HoT tick without having to spend so many CMs

The CM'd heals were not worth it.. It ended up looking almsot like 1 CM = 1 HoT..

And the amount of power they started taking was getting pretty high..

Breath underwater? Haha..

Anyways, I am like.. Tired and am going to bed, this "bard discussion" was pretty interesting because I like bards and enjoy conversations about them..

However, if this is going to be continued, it will have to be tomorrow..

The breathing ballads are a great concept, the only problem with them and the breathing cm is there is no reason to get. If they would only make several great camps under water they would be useful.

Tell me whats wrong?

=P

You're right. None of them are the best. Minstrel support. Gypsy rougish, a bit better hit taker. Bravo damage.
I don't think a werehunter would be that great, but hey it might work.


I don't get it? Bad race? (It is, Human gets OFMod, DFMod, LdrShip)

I chose to C&P this from the PM I sent MEPMAGe so you all could see it perhaps help some young bards out there..

Also, to MEPMAGe, I added in some stuff at the end you might want to read.

don't think this is my "return" I just felt that this should have been a public post..





Uhm, checked out alla just now and saw your post








Okay, lets see.

first off, to get your MC you need 500 spent, right?

Buying all the Bravo CMs and the max raisers to buy those = 480

That leaves 20 CMs, I said ONE CM, not one CM LINE, haha..

The 45 quest heal does like 50 on tic.

The CM'd heals go like this.

Choral Celebration 1 = 60 HoT
Choral Celebration 2 = 81
Choral celebration 3 = 95

that's how it was for me, and remember the cost, in the end it was 95 CMS (I think) for 95 HoT, which 1 CM for 1 HoT is not a very good deal, the only one that seemed worth it to me was #1 because it was only 70 power for 60 on tic, where as though 2 is 400 and 3 is 500-600


PoT CMs / cha raisers are definitly not worth it if you aren't going minstrel


The cha mod on your pow ticks are not worth it either unless you are going minstrel, that's a 5% increase in your NON-Path CMs, and since at 30+ you will be chaining your paths, useless.

Also, 5% means 100 charisma is only +5 more than non-CMed one.. So, not worth it to me..

Half recast, eh, I only keep 2 of the bigger recast specials up unless I am grouped with a shaman. (To keep str / dex buff up.)

Some may disagree with how I set my abilities, I keep 1, 8, 16, and bite up, then small power buff (to keep it on under the big ones.) for row one

For row two it is 2 of the big recast abilities, then str/dex buff or another long recast ability.

Then my 2 path spells.

Now, if I am on a raid or am going to fight something real strong, after going through all my abilities, I quickly put up whatever specials I don't have real quick on the first row (Over the 1 and maybe 6 ability) and cast them.

See, with the recast CMs for gypsy it is 80 CMs to halve these attacks

350 (?) damage
450
600 or 700
and 900-970

Don't remember exact numbers, anyways, those numbers may look nice, but not when you look at it this way.

Per HIT, sigle hit, I am hitting usually 600-750 or so.

Now look, that is the 20 and 29 specials in ONE HIT almost.

I mean, going through those attacks doesn't even = one quad..

That is why I say they are not worth it.


Many in my guild know I put other bards to shame because I easily outdamage them, maxed str, sta, and dex.

I can keep aggro easily off necro pets (which are supposedly great DDs.)

Also, I often find myself tanking for pet groups, usually have a necro pacting me every so often, at EG.


Also, the pet charm is not required for minstrel, and god, please don't buy it, it is a waste.

And another thing, I agree, gypsy is a waste, 3 / 3 off / def mods are nice, but come on, with shaman buffs I get +120 on top four stats.. combat 49 specialized gets +125.. AND as Bravo get 2 off. mods, and 50 more dex max (along with the agi max Gypsies give, not to mention Bravo's (stamina raiser) give 1 def. mod, but yes, gypsy has the potential to get 1 more off. mod and 3 more def. mods. However, I don't think defensive mods help a DD except in duels, because in raids, that thing turns on you, defensive mods or not, you're going to be screwed either way. And at the "high-end" of the game or whatever, the only decent XP you will be getting in grinds is from EG, which with max AR, any class could tank there. As for melee mobs, slayers hit me for about 32 a hit, with only 1 def. mod, so I do not feel they are that important.)

So I am getting about the same as a combat bard, except I am ALSO giving out a great power tick..

Bravo MCAs = +50 on top four, so even without shaman I can do my str / dex buff which gives +70 or +80 and still raise it just as much as if I had a shaman.

Bravo MCA 2= Blade dance, 1500 damage, 30 sec recast, small AoE

Haven't bought that one yet.

Also, for my last 20 CMs I spent them on BITE, nice 1.1k attack, 30 sec recast, and only 50 power.

Also, Blade Dance = Dex modified.

bite = scales with level and str modified.


Anyways, good luck with that.

Also, I would like to note that I have yet to buy all my str / dex or sta max boosters, so my damage has yet to reach it's full potential.


Edited, Sat Nov 6 22:24:32 2004 by BonNoobDH

This should b your plan by 60 IMO, but build your bards however you want, that's the beauty of MMORPG's, you can do whatever you think of (=

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