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#1 Jul 08 2009 at 2:23 AM Rating: Excellent
http://www.wow.com/2009/07/08/significant-changes-to-northrend-flying-mounts-discovered-on-the/

http://blue.mmo-champion.com/1/18312416138-just-discovered-cold-weather-flying-at-68.html
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Just to confirm, Tome of Cold Weather Flight is actually a new heirloom item planned to go into patch 3.2. At level 80 players can buy this heirloom item from the Cold Weather Flying Trainer in Dalaran for 1,000 gold and send it to an alt of the same realm, faction and account. The tome can be used to learn Cold Weather Flying at level 68, consuming the tome in the process.

Please note this feature is not yet in the newest version of the public test realm patch notes updated today. The item and its functionality are subject to change during the testing process.

PTR Patch Notes: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=17899680776&sid=1


Edited, Jul 8th 2009 6:28am by dadanox
#2 Jul 08 2009 at 2:28 AM Rating: Good
About time. Made no sense learning to fly AFTER going to a place you can't fly.
#3 Jul 08 2009 at 2:29 AM Rating: Good
It's an heirloom item, so you still have to get to 80 once without it.
#4 Jul 08 2009 at 2:45 AM Rating: Decent
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Thank freakin' god!
#5REDACTED, Posted: Jul 08 2009 at 3:55 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I'm not one of those people who was moaning about them "trivializing" outland by allowing people to be able to fly from 60 next patch- after all, it's older content. But now they are going to allow everyone to fly all the way through Northrend too? That's the latest content!
#6 Jul 08 2009 at 4:30 AM Rating: Excellent
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You are very speedy. I was just coming over here to post this. :)

It's a great idea.
#7 Jul 08 2009 at 4:33 AM Rating: Good
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graspee wrote:
I'm not one of those people who was moaning about them "trivializing" outland by allowing people to be able to fly from 60 next patch- after all, it's older content. But now they are going to allow everyone to fly all the way through Northrend too? That's the latest content!

Why don't they just create an heirloom item of "Instant level 80" ffs.



No not everyone, players who have already been through the content at least once.


I personally wish it was free for my alt's. But this is at least a step in the right direction.
#8 Jul 08 2009 at 4:40 AM Rating: Excellent
I'm excited by this, it may actually result me me finishing leveling my alts (lol!)

I will probably have my 73 DK high enough to fly though by the time it comes out, but that's no biggy I can still enjoy it on my shaman (63) and hunter (62) and rogue (44 -- yeah right, like I will spend that much time...)
#9 Jul 08 2009 at 4:43 AM Rating: Good
I'll have 4 characters already flying in Northrend before the patch comes out, but I still have more classes waiting to be leveled. The change will make it more enjoyable to work on them.
#10 Jul 08 2009 at 4:53 AM Rating: Good
Sweetness.

With the ease it's taking to make cash right now, an epic flier in Northrend at 70 is just insane. Life just got a whole lot easier. :)

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#11 Jul 08 2009 at 5:08 AM Rating: Decent
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Why don't they just create an heirloom item of "Instant level 80" ffs.


Unintentionally you may have stumbled upon a reasonable future option aswell. Why not have your level 80 be allowed to buy a tome that gives a new alt a free x levels with certain limitations. Players have been asking for it or at least pondering about possibilities. Mainly thinking about Deathknight like sollutions, but why would a tome not work (better)?



Edited, Jul 8th 2009 3:10pm by TinyTin
#12 Jul 08 2009 at 5:26 AM Rating: Good
With all my alts this may be a nice money sink for me.
#13 Jul 08 2009 at 5:45 AM Rating: Default
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TinyTin wrote:
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Why don't they just create an heirloom item of "Instant level 80" ffs.


Unintentionally you may have stumbled upon a reasonable future option aswell. Why not have your level 80 be allowed to buy a tome that gives a new alt a free x levels with certain limitations. Players have been asking for it or at least pondering about possibilities. Mainly thinking about Deathknight like sollutions, but why would a tome not work (better)?



Edited, Jul 8th 2009 3:10pm by TinyTin


The point is that 1-80 should still be fun and challenging. If they only care about endgame then sure, make every character level 80 when you create it. I thought the point of levelling up though was to a) learn your skills one by one as they are added rather than be faced with them all at once, all new when you create the character b) make more money for blizzard because you're playing the game longer.

I think a lot of people would get bored if the game were just northrend and level 80 only.

Maybe I'm wrong, who knows, who cares. All I know is I wrote the same sort of thing that most people write normally when things get made easier for people, and yet it didn't seem as popular as when other ppl post it.

Whaaaa. I want a lollypopz.

#14 Jul 08 2009 at 6:43 AM Rating: Good
jpaugh the Eccentric wrote:
With all my alts this may be a nice money sink for me.


If it is an heirloom item you should only need to buy one I think.
#15 Jul 08 2009 at 6:49 AM Rating: Good
Anobix the Brilliant wrote:
If it is an heirloom item you should only need to buy one I think.


No, sadly it's consumed :(
#16 Jul 08 2009 at 6:53 AM Rating: Excellent
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graspee wrote:
Maybe I'm wrong, who knows, who cares. All I know is I wrote the same sort of thing that most people write normally when things get made easier for people, and yet it didn't seem as popular as when other ppl post it.

Whaaaa. I want a lollypopz.

That's because everyone else had the presence of mind to stop and read that it only works for alts, and no one can really voice an objection to that.

Actually, I guess we could be pissed because of that guy who decided to level to 80 without ever touching NR..

Edited, Jul 8th 2009 9:54am by Majivo
#17 Jul 08 2009 at 7:29 AM Rating: Excellent
It makes a lot of sense to me, and I'm looking forward to this. The whole reason Blizzard made it impossible to fly in Northrend until 77 was so that you were forced to immerse yourself in the new areas, the new mobs, etc. You couldn't just fly overhead, zoom in and complete things without really appreciating all of the new scenery and detail. However, once you have (at least) one level 80 character, you've seen it already. With the changes that they've made to increase your ease of leveling, why not make it possible to fly a little sooner?


For those of us with multiple 80s (currently working on #5- and poor Ellieann is halfway to 75, so she'll not benefit from this), it just means we have more incentive to level our others instead of thinking, "Oh crap, I'm not running through Boring Tundra again!"

Edited for clarity.

Edited, Jul 8th 2009 12:30pm by Wondroustremor
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#18 Jul 08 2009 at 7:38 AM Rating: Excellent
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graspee wrote:
TinyTin wrote:
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Why don't they just create an heirloom item of "Instant level 80" ffs.


Unintentionally you may have stumbled upon a reasonable future option aswell. Why not have your level 80 be allowed to buy a tome that gives a new alt a free x levels with certain limitations. Players have been asking for it or at least pondering about possibilities. Mainly thinking about Deathknight like sollutions, but why would a tome not work (better)?

The point is that 1-80 should still be fun and challenging. If they only care about endgame then sure, make every character level 80 when you create it. I thought the point of levelling up though was to a) learn your skills one by one as they are added rather than be faced with them all at once, all new when you create the character b) make more money for blizzard because you're playing the game longer.

I think a lot of people would get bored if the game were just northrend and level 80 only.


If you don't want your character to learn how to fly in Northrend until 77, that option is still available to you. If you want your character to level as slow as possible without the 20% (combined) bonus xp of the BoA shoulders and upcoming chestpieces then that is your choice as well.

The point of this is to keep people who are already at 80 and bored interested in the game longer (and paying subscription fees longer). Being able to level an alt faster is simply something lots of people are interested in.

#19 Jul 08 2009 at 8:06 AM Rating: Excellent
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Wa-effin-hoo!

This may actually get me going on my two low 70s alts again. Running around on a ground mount after spending over a year flying in Outland (on all three of my then 70s) is just pure hell. I did it on my druid because I had no choice; I had to do it to get to 80. But, a lot of why I've held off on my other two 70s is the lack of flying. Now, I heartily welcome being able to fly on my hunter and paladin again.

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All I know is I wrote the same sort of thing that most people write normally when things get made easier for people, and yet it didn't seem as popular as when other ppl post it.


In a lot of cases, I'd probably agree with you. But, in this case, I don't. I've always felt that the cold weather flying BS was just a gimmick mechanic to force people to run around in Northrend for the first 7 levels. I understand the reasoning, but I always felt it was hokey. In this case, I don't think it's so much a "make things easier" mechanic (altough of course it will to an extent) as it is a make it the way it should have logically been anyway mechanic.
#20 Jul 08 2009 at 8:34 AM Rating: Decent
All this means to me is now I have to get 8000 gold to buy each of my horde alts (8) their tome... and then I need to buy 6 of my alts their actual flying skill and a mount... which comes to what... another 6000g thereabouts... then 8 alts their epic flyer skill... which is (or will be) 4500-5000g each for the epic skill... so... another 36000-40000g.... then get them a mount each...

I see no problem doing this before each of the alts sets foot passed L.70.


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I have bought two alts epic flying skills and one of them cold weather flying (the other one had it already) in the passed month... it is easy enough to get gold in Northrend, but I cant really level any other alts while doing dailies like mad.

#21 Jul 08 2009 at 8:37 AM Rating: Good
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At one point in the game 1 to 80 was a fun and challengeing process. But with all MMORPG games content becomes obsolete and trivilized with expansions.

Right now I think about 85% of old world content is absurdly boring! I have seen it, seen it some more, and seen it again. I have 2 toons stuck mid 30's because IC an't bring myself to do the boring quests or boring grinds to level.

Now if blizzard would release new leveling zones it would be different but they have made it pretty clear every expansion is going to pretty much be for max, or near max players. I know alot of people who quit playing WOW between about 20 and 40 because they could never do anything in a group because everybody was high lvl and basically would have nothing to do with them. I just about got a guy talked back into playing the game at work. He leveled a toon up to lvl 45 pre WOTLK. He was tired of never being able to get into a group and was sick of running around in green gear and he quit the game.

As the level cap goes up the speed it takes to level should decrease. Far as this particular change goes I see no problem because if its an heirloom it is going to require some sort of time sink from a max lvl toon. This means somebody has to have allready experienced this and do it again. Joe Newb who has never had a lvl 80 toon isn't going to be able to use this.

I think its a great idea although I will prob be too cheap to ever buy it.
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#22 Jul 08 2009 at 8:38 AM Rating: Good
I'm ok with getting all my alts their epic flyer, but my main may be the only one with a Traveler's Tundra Mammoth.
#23 Jul 08 2009 at 8:41 AM Rating: Excellent
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With the attendant change of SLOW flyer to 150% flying speed... do you really need the epic flying on all those alts? 280% for epic was nice when the only other option was slower than our epic land but I don't see dropping 5K for epic on any of my alts that don't have gathering professions at least.
#24 Jul 08 2009 at 9:05 AM Rating: Decent
That smarts. I transferred my main (80 Paladin) to a completely empty server character wise, but my 70 Druid and 72 Death Knight are both on different servers. My Druid being on Aerie Peak and my DK being on Dawnbringer.

I have a feeling I'll be transferring my Paladin back to Aerie Peak, buying the heirloom for my Druid, and moving right back.
#25 Jul 08 2009 at 9:17 AM Rating: Decent
This great for me. Have gotten main and one alt to 80 and now my warrior will have a bit of an easier time of it since will be able to fly earlier.



#26 Jul 08 2009 at 9:35 AM Rating: Decent
Actually, what I'm curious about is if they'll make the actual skill (as in from the trainer) require 68 and 1k too. As I said above, I have no main on my servers where alts can fly, so if they made the skill purchasable from a trainer at 68, I'd just run to Dalaran.
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