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#1 Jun 16 2009 at 8:23 PM Rating: Excellent
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Other profession changes as well.

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The design recipes for cutting epic gems will be made available for purchase with Dalaran Jewelcrafter’s Tokens and there are several ways to obtain raw epic gems:

* Prospecting Titanium Ore
* Alchemy transmutations
* Purchased with Honor
* Purchased with Emblems of Heroism




Glad I've been saving tokens from my dailies.
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#2 Jun 16 2009 at 8:53 PM Rating: Good
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Nice post.

I notice there are some minor changes to some of the engineering enchants.

I love engineering but I really wish they would implement something that engineers could make that was useful for more than a very narrow niche of players and could actually make engineers some money.
#3 Jun 16 2009 at 9:33 PM Rating: Good
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Time to start doing my dailies again. And time to farm some honor.

I love that they're buffing Dragon's Eyes.
#4 Jun 16 2009 at 9:35 PM Rating: Excellent
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Just sold about 9 Scarlet Ruby's at 75g a pop. Riding this price as long as I can before they plummet.
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#5 Jun 16 2009 at 10:03 PM Rating: Good
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Well, nice to see more stuff coming out.

The fact that you will be able to buy epic gems compounded with the BoA chest means I'll want to get some 200 emblems before content patch hits I guess. I have mostly stopped doing daily HC, time to start again I guess.
#6 Jun 16 2009 at 11:20 PM Rating: Good
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I just turned about 30 of my 70+ JC tokens into Dragon's Eyes for selling. Argh!
Thanks for the info, though.
#7 Jun 17 2009 at 1:15 AM Rating: Decent
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Next content patch --> 3.2 ???
#8 Jun 17 2009 at 2:28 AM Rating: Decent
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I really like that they are making these ones accessible through a lot of different means.

Most people can easily grab some badges or honor, miners and JCs can get it from titanium, and alchemists can of course transmute for people.

Should make for an interesting economy come 3.2 or whenever they come out.
#9 Jun 17 2009 at 3:36 AM Rating: Excellent
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Titanium ore is currently 2 gold/e on my server. Or was, til i cleared out the AH.
#10 Jun 17 2009 at 4:11 AM Rating: Good
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Added a new pattern for Flask of the North, usable by players with a high alchemy skill. The recipe is purchased from the honor potion vendor. The Flask of the North increases your spell power, attack power, or Strength for 1 hour, and is usable in arenas. It is not consumed when used.


Now that is interesting. A non-consumable flask. Wonder how that will impact the overall game and economy. I for one, will be pushing my alchemy to 450 asap because I assume this flask will only be available to 450/450 alchemists.

Edit: I just read my own quote: Usable in arenas. I wonder if this is arena only or if it can be used PvE AND arena.


Edited, Jun 17th 2009 8:13am by NCspaz
#11 Jun 17 2009 at 5:35 AM Rating: Decent
Me thinks a stockpile of titanium ore is coming tonight...
#12 Jun 17 2009 at 5:53 AM Rating: Decent
Questions about the previously mentioned jc nerf (dragon eye cuts losing prismatic quality) still linger.

And if that nerf still goes live, no word on bringing out hybrid cuts.

Btw, no titanium ore on AH for me to grab :(
#13 Jun 17 2009 at 6:23 AM Rating: Good
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NCspaz wrote:
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Added a new pattern for Flask of the North, usable by players with a high alchemy skill. The recipe is purchased from the honor potion vendor. The Flask of the North increases your spell power, attack power, or Strength for 1 hour, and is usable in arenas. It is not consumed when used.


Now that is interesting. A non-consumable flask. Wonder how that will impact the overall game and economy. I for one, will be pushing my alchemy to 450 asap because I assume this flask will only be available to 450/450 alchemists.

Edit: I just read my own quote: Usable in arenas. I wonder if this is arena only or if it can be used PvE AND arena.


Edited, Jun 17th 2009 8:13am by NCspaz



Am I the only one raging WTF at this.

They go for almost 2+ years with no consumables in arena, Engi can't use **** for items that the proffession makes, they nerf the **** out of EVERY Engi item that can be used in PVP(only yo buff rocket gloves again wtf).


Ugh.
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#14 Jun 17 2009 at 9:42 AM Rating: Good
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edit: nvm

Edited, Jun 17th 2009 1:43pm by ArtemisEnteri
#15 Jun 17 2009 at 9:48 AM Rating: Decent
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So they nerf JC and then just buff it right back up again?

One think I don't like is how much easier it is to get all kinds of recipes for JC. I don't know what it's like with other professions or what they have to use to be able to purchase some of their best recipes but as for LW which I am, we have to spend 3 heavy borean leather, which is 18 borean leather. just for 1 recipes...now there are like what 3-4 pages of recipes for....a stack of heavy borean leather sells for about 90-100g on my server, higher depending on demand.

THEN, to get the best recipes...you have to spend 2 artic furs each...I guess it depends on the server because on my server artic furs sell for about 50-60g each so there is about another page to have to buy all those just to get the recipes.

JC's from what I've seen, have a daily to get tokens, to buy recipes, wish LW had something like that so we didn't have to use our mats to get the recipes, in which case the mat is a low drop from skinning in the first place. They can buy their recipes from WG Quartermaster for like 14 SKS which isn't very hard at all to obtain, considering you can run an instance when you have WG and get about 12-16 per instance. And they can also buy their gems and stuff they need to cut with emblems and honor and stuff like that.

I can only talk for LW since I don't know what it's like for the other professions, it just doesn't seem fair! but yeah, nothing is ever fair
#16 Jun 17 2009 at 9:54 AM Rating: Decent
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....a stack of heavy borean leather sells for about 90-100g on my server, higher depending on demand.


Same on my server... which is why I've bought stacks of borean leather for 9g per. Far cheaper.
#17 Jun 17 2009 at 10:27 AM Rating: Excellent
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MYteddy wrote:
NCspaz wrote:
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Added a new pattern for Flask of the North, usable by players with a high alchemy skill. The recipe is purchased from the honor potion vendor. The Flask of the North increases your spell power, attack power, or Strength for 1 hour, and is usable in arenas. It is not consumed when used.


Now that is interesting. A non-consumable flask. Wonder how that will impact the overall game and economy. I for one, will be pushing my alchemy to 450 asap because I assume this flask will only be available to 450/450 alchemists.

Edit: I just read my own quote: Usable in arenas. I wonder if this is arena only or if it can be used PvE AND arena.


Edited, Jun 17th 2009 8:13am by NCspaz



Am I the only one raging WTF at this.

They go for almost 2+ years with no consumables in arena, Engi can't use sh*t for items that the proffession makes, they nerf the sh*t out of EVERY Engi item that can be used in PVP(only yo buff rocket gloves again wtf).


Ugh.

I'm going to guess that the flask is scaled down, similar to the healing and mana potions already available to arena alchemists. And yes they are usable everywhere, including arenas.

*edit* Ooops, just read blue post, looks like endless mana and healing potions are being replaced by the Flask of the North for arena use.

Edited, Jun 17th 2009 1:43pm by Trylofer
#18 Jun 17 2009 at 10:28 AM Rating: Good
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Hyolith wrote:
So they nerf JC and then just buff it right back up again?

One think I don't like is how much easier it is to get all kinds of recipes for JC. I don't know what it's like with other professions or what they have to use to be able to purchase some of their best recipes but as for LW which I am, we have to spend 3 heavy borean leather, which is 18 borean leather. just for 1 recipes...now there are like what 3-4 pages of recipes for....a stack of heavy borean leather sells for about 90-100g on my server, higher depending on demand.

THEN, to get the best recipes...you have to spend 2 artic furs each...I guess it depends on the server because on my server artic furs sell for about 50-60g each so there is about another page to have to buy all those just to get the recipes.

JC's from what I've seen, have a daily to get tokens, to buy recipes, wish LW had something like that so we didn't have to use our mats to get the recipes, in which case the mat is a low drop from skinning in the first place. They can buy their recipes from WG Quartermaster for like 14 SKS which isn't very hard at all to obtain, considering you can run an instance when you have WG and get about 12-16 per instance. And they can also buy their gems and stuff they need to cut with emblems and honor and stuff like that.

I can only talk for LW since I don't know what it's like for the other professions, it just doesn't seem fair! but yeah, nothing is ever fair


Would you rather get 1 recipe every 3 days and take a year to get all the recipes? I'd rather just farm gold or skins over a weekend and buy them all in one big haul.

JC will be on par with other professions, the nerf was because it was too good compared to the rest. Once everyone has full epic gems, and the JCers have their buffed gems in their sockets, it will be the exact same buff as having a LW wrist enchant.
#19 Jun 17 2009 at 10:38 AM Rating: Excellent
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mikelolol wrote:
Hyolith wrote:
So they nerf JC and then just buff it right back up again?

One think I don't like is how much easier it is to get all kinds of recipes for JC. I don't know what it's like with other professions or what they have to use to be able to purchase some of their best recipes but as for LW which I am, we have to spend 3 heavy borean leather, which is 18 borean leather. just for 1 recipes...now there are like what 3-4 pages of recipes for....a stack of heavy borean leather sells for about 90-100g on my server, higher depending on demand.

THEN, to get the best recipes...you have to spend 2 artic furs each...I guess it depends on the server because on my server artic furs sell for about 50-60g each so there is about another page to have to buy all those just to get the recipes.

JC's from what I've seen, have a daily to get tokens, to buy recipes, wish LW had something like that so we didn't have to use our mats to get the recipes, in which case the mat is a low drop from skinning in the first place. They can buy their recipes from WG Quartermaster for like 14 SKS which isn't very hard at all to obtain, considering you can run an instance when you have WG and get about 12-16 per instance. And they can also buy their gems and stuff they need to cut with emblems and honor and stuff like that.

I can only talk for LW since I don't know what it's like for the other professions, it just doesn't seem fair! but yeah, nothing is ever fair


Would you rather get 1 recipe every 3 days and take a year to get all the recipes? I'd rather just farm gold or skins over a weekend and buy them all in one big haul.

JC will be on par with other professions, the nerf was because it was too good compared to the rest. Once everyone has full epic gems, and the JCers have their buffed gems in their sockets, it will be the exact same buff as having a LW wrist enchant.


False argument, as you can buy Dragon's Eyes off the AH. Not my point, however; the point is this is an old debate and the systems are all pretty much equal in HOW you get the "currency" for recipes. JCing had to be nerfed down, but miklolol is right; once epic gems come out, it should all pretty much be equal.
#20 Jun 17 2009 at 10:51 AM Rating: Good
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Yeah but Dragons Eyes don't buy recipes, a JC would use those to cut their own prismatic gems.

You probably meant damaged necklaces, which is a fair argument, though they're still pretty expensive and I don't see the price dropping, especially with new recipes coming out, and a resparked demand for JC'ers tokens.

At the allakhazam avergage price, that's 1125g for a normal gem pattern, 1875g for a meta pattern.
#21 Jun 17 2009 at 10:53 AM Rating: Excellent
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mikelolol wrote:
Yeah but Dragons Eyes don't buy recipes, a JC would use those to cut their own prismatic gems.

You probably meant damaged necklaces, which is a fair argument, though they're still pretty expensive and I don't see the price dropping, especially with new recipes coming out, and a resparked demand for JC'ers tokens.

At the allakhazam avergage price, that's 1125g for a normal gem pattern, 1875g for a meta pattern.


Quite right, my bad, thanks for catching that :) Point being, the option is out there, but rather pricy.
#22 Jun 17 2009 at 12:13 PM Rating: Decent
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mikelolol wrote:
Hyolith wrote:
So they nerf JC and then just buff it right back up again?

One think I don't like is how much easier it is to get all kinds of recipes for JC. I don't know what it's like with other professions or what they have to use to be able to purchase some of their best recipes but as for LW which I am, we have to spend 3 heavy borean leather, which is 18 borean leather. just for 1 recipes...now there are like what 3-4 pages of recipes for....a stack of heavy borean leather sells for about 90-100g on my server, higher depending on demand.

THEN, to get the best recipes...you have to spend 2 artic furs each...I guess it depends on the server because on my server artic furs sell for about 50-60g each so there is about another page to have to buy all those just to get the recipes.

JC's from what I've seen, have a daily to get tokens, to buy recipes, wish LW had something like that so we didn't have to use our mats to get the recipes, in which case the mat is a low drop from skinning in the first place. They can buy their recipes from WG Quartermaster for like 14 SKS which isn't very hard at all to obtain, considering you can run an instance when you have WG and get about 12-16 per instance. And they can also buy their gems and stuff they need to cut with emblems and honor and stuff like that.

I can only talk for LW since I don't know what it's like for the other professions, it just doesn't seem fair! but yeah, nothing is ever fair


Would you rather get 1 recipe every 3 days and take a year to get all the recipes? I'd rather just farm gold or skins over a weekend and buy them all in one big haul.

JC will be on par with other professions, the nerf was because it was too good compared to the rest. Once everyone has full epic gems, and the JCers have their buffed gems in their sockets, it will be the exact same buff as having a LW wrist enchant.


Yes once everyone gets their gems then it will be harder for JC'ers to make money, but, people are constantly getting new items and gear everyday...you buy something for emblems, you get one in naxx 25 thats better the next day, to get a better one in ulduar to next, and so on, since you can't just unsocket that gem and shove it on your new piece you have to buy a whole new gem, and with thousands of people doing there plus with their alts, that gives even more chances of JC'ers to sell their epic gems.

Yes I would probably rather have a daily where I could earn something to go towards buying my recipes rather than spending all of my highest profit items to buy them all. Yes you can easily go farm for a couple days to get enough to be able to buy them all, but depending on the prices on your server that could be a fair amount of gold you could have earned selling them all on AH and just using the tokens or whatever from the daily to buy the recipe later.

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Same on my server... which is why I've bought stacks of borean leather for 9g per. Far cheaper.


Yes I did that just recently, you need 6 stacks of borean to make 1 stack of heavy borean, at 9g a stack for borean thats 54g for a stack of heavy borean which you can sell on AH for 90-100g. I did this recently, yet there was no heavy borean on AH so I set the bar high at 140g and they sold.
#23 Jun 17 2009 at 1:55 PM Rating: Decent
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TBH I'm happy with the flask. It's like alchemists being able to get a self-buff that occupies the elixir slots.

The "endless" potions should go to the vendor now. Outside Arena they're worthless compared to Crazy Alchemist Pots.

What's going to happen to flask prices if 450/450 alchemists stopped buying flasks? I don't think you'll notice. And if you do, you'll probably notice more the saving than the price drop.

I doubt the new flask will perform like the current ones anyway, specially if you count mixology.




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