Xyriach:
I never said it was strange, not once. ;) I DID say that there's nothing wrong with calling a spade a spade. I don't know if the post was directed at me, but if it was, I'm not disagreeing with you. The only thing I took issue with was denial that the nude patches are used for the sake of prurience rather than art. There's nothing wrong with ****: my boyfriend has tons of **** on his computer, I don't feel threatened, I don't care about it. Men like naked women. That's ok, just don't tell me that Peter North is an artist.
Allegory:
Some people do give too much credit to high art, but really it comes down to the individual. If I look at David and see enough meaning that it makes me think about it for an hour, that's ok; if another guy takes one look and averts his eyes because there's a ***** there, that's his reaction to it and that's ok too. No one is really right or wrong in aesthetics, although it's an incredibly fruitful basis for argument.
Idealizing art just because it's 'art', or to play up to a self-image or peer image, is uncool, and I agree with that. I remember many a great poem destroyed in my high school English classes by teachers informing us of the meaning, and implying meaning where I personally thought it was contrived.
There are really two levels to any work of art: there's what you see and what you think. If you just stop at what you see that's ok, although it's more entertaining and enriching to think about it as well. That goes for any artistic work, in any medium really. Good art will appeal immediately to more than one level, and the ability to make good art is not confined to a certain circle of people at all. I'm sure there are people on the street with a lot of artistic merit, it's really just how you dance to the beat, and whether you can make other people feel it too. It's really more about the observer than the artist.
I feel so Andy Warhol now, I'm gonna have to take a shower after this.
And calling Shakespeare a hack is just cold. I'm wounded here, you didn't have to go that far. ;)
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Please research the term "vore" and then see how your arguement holds up.
Oh and you had to go there too. Oh jeezus.
Edited, Jun 21st 2006 at 10:08pm EDT by Sioux