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I made a thread in Feedback supporting the addition of anchor tags in order to mimic that functionality, but it has no responses yet.

I believe you haven't met Theo before.

Holy looks like it's going to remain strong as at present, as always (has holy paladin ever NOT been a top-tier healer?). Ret looks a bit shafted what with losing magic dispel, and freedom dispel resist and a few other very nit-picky things. Ret isn't particularly strong at present tho, so not much of a change. If they alow prot to still be viable, that'll be the way to go.

Not that I do disagree with you, but this is also a symptom of just being wrong, so it's not exactly conclusive either way.

One correction: it is possible to interrupt AB/SotA/IoC/EotS flag captures with AoE attacks; I often use Holy Nova when more than one player is trying to cap.

I’ll be interested to see how rated battlegrounds change the old discussions about what strategies work best. Up until now, simply focusing on objectives and communicating effectively has been strategy enough. Once battleground teams of 2-3 times the size of the largest arena teams come into play, I expect to see people assigning positions, moving in formations and creating playbooks similar to how football is coached.

Remember, the enemy’s gate is down.

If it's possible, it's been changed in the last patch or two.

Also, Xorq, if we didn't write guides when the information is somewhere else, we'd all be reading EJ and wowwiki and not have any guides whatsoever on this site.

I'm putting together everything you need to start PvP; that means that the information probably exists somewhere else.

Strand and WG will be added later today. Thanks for pointing that out samperor.

Certainly possible, but AFAIK FoK doesn't interrupt either, so that kinda messes up your theory.

My arena partner says he'll test it out, and that it might be a bug/feature related to throwing specialization or some set bonus that used to make FoK interrupt spellcasting--lazy coders might have gimmicked FoK instead of the power. I'll report back.

That would make it an exception. Apparently some channeled AOEs, like Consecration, don't interrupt flag capture channeling either.

I fully endorse this guide. I've learned a lot about PVP from Theo.

Could you please tell the nice people to stop taking the goddam Southern graveyard in Strand? Because I haetz them. I would suggest emphasizing the graveyards in general a bit more actually. It's important to defend them and battles are often won or lost on which ones you have. You mention rezzing but IMO the key is really getting vehicles closer to the inner walls. I'm pretty sure I've never lost a match in which we've successfully defended the Eastern and Western gy's. And I can't tell you how many times I've trotted right on up and capped one of them unchallenged while the enemy players just ride on by.

Yeah I know. Nobody else cares about Strand. I'm the only one who likes it.

Actually if the enemy team plays their cards right you have no choice but to grab the south gy. Otherwise the enemy team will respawn right in front of the yellow gate making it impossible to clear the way to it or to reach it with a demolisher.

The problem is that the yellow gate is easier to break by grabbing that gy and running bombs, but once it is broken the best way to open the relic chamber is to go back for demos. Grabbing bombs to open the relic chamber doesn't seem to work very well.

Repent is 6 seconds in pvp yeah. A few details on paladin abilities: Divine Shield lasts for 12 seconds not 10, granting complete immuntity to damage, effects and knockbacks. It reduces all damage done by 50% however for the duration (healing is not affected which is why DS is seen as a much more powerful cooldown for holy paladins than for ret).

Divine Shield is popped by a warrior's shattering throw ability with 100% effectiveness despite dispel protection, and a priests's mass dispel which can be resisted with the stoicism talent. Alernatives to divine shield: divine protection which reduces incoming damage by 50% for 12 seconds, doesn't affect damage output and has a much more subtle animation. It can be dspelled like any magical effect however. Both of these cause the debuff Forbearance which prevents use of the divine shield, divine protection or lay on hands abilities for 2 minutes or until death.

Avenging Wrath isn't affected by and doesn't cause forbearance but can't be used within 30 seconds of the above abilities. Increases all damage and healing by 20% for 20 seconds. Unfortunately it's use is very obvious because gigantic golden wings sprout from your back and it can be dispelled (or spellstolen!) or you may simply be cced for the duration. If you get polymorphed, the wings remain resulting in a very angelic looking sheep. The ret talent Sanctified Wrath causes 50% of all damage you do during AW to bypass normal damage reduction effects (things like armor, PW: Shield, pain supression but not resilience) turning it into a brutally powerful damage cooldown.

Edited, Aug 13th 2010 9:49am by ArtemisEnteri

A good point. Often this causes them to die as well if they've been damaged. I've had a lot of KBs stolen by Shamans and Druids doing that.