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#27 Jul 09 2013 at 1:00 PM Rating: Excellent
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Well, I dunno, that girl with the black and red outfit in the first pic wasn't half bad.

Stick that on a draenei......... eh yeah I think I'm gonna stop right there.

Smiley: lol

You should see the armor they usually wear... Smiley: rolleyes


What game is that, btw?


TERA

It's a fun game I wasted about 3 months on when it went F2P, along with a good number of other ZAM people. Will probably go back to it at some point. The combat is good, the game is beautiful, but the story telling is seriously lacking (think vanilla WoW questing). For what it's worth, odd cosmetic items aside, they have one of the better F2P systems out there.
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#28 Jul 09 2013 at 1:44 PM Rating: Good
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The combat is good, the game is beautiful, but the story telling is seriously lacking (think vanilla WoW questing).


Isn't present time WoW questing the same as Vanilla WoW questing? I know that's why I'm not level 90 on my Druid yet. Too many <go kill x amount of y> quests that give me 1/30th of a level-up. Think I gained most of my levels from doing dungeons (god knows it wasn't doing Battlegrounds). I'm still on the first zone in Pandaria and I'm level 88. Just not into the story, anymore. Couldn't give a rat's *** about controlling my anger while helping panda bears kill a million monkeys.
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#29 Jul 09 2013 at 1:58 PM Rating: Excellent
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TERA makes WoW storytelling look good, I'll leave it at that. A review, which basically reflects my feelings on the game. It's a bit dated, PvP has improved a lot for instance, but the notes about combat and questing are spot on.

Also, it sounds like you need to buy some XP boosts. Smiley: wink

Smiley: lol

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#30 Jul 09 2013 at 2:45 PM Rating: Good
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The combat is good, the game is beautiful, but the story telling is seriously lacking (think vanilla WoW questing).


Isn't present time WoW questing the same as Vanilla WoW questing? I know that's why I'm not level 90 on my Druid yet. Too many <go kill x amount of y> quests that give me 1/30th of a level-up. Think I gained most of my levels from doing dungeons (god knows it wasn't doing Battlegrounds). I'm still on the first zone in Pandaria and I'm level 88. Just not into the story, anymore. Couldn't give a rat's *** about controlling my anger while helping panda bears kill a million monkeys.


More variety of quests (they're not ALL 'kill x of y', but there are some yes), and MUCH better rewards.

Back in Vanilla, I remember doing quests and being able to choose between a wand and a shield. Oh that's nice... except I'm a druid or a shaman and can't use either. Then I do another quest and I get a nice spiffy pair of.......cloth bracers. Wait, cloth? I thought I was supposed to be wearing mail? Gotta fight 20 Lv14 infected bears that are spread out through the map, probably killing 50+ non-infected bears because they aggro... and I get white cloth bracers. lol. I always make fun of that Darkshore quest, because it was so ridiculously stupid.

I don't mind "meh" quests if they reward me decently. That's why I don't mind it so much in MoP; you always get nice rewards and don't feel left out.

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It's a fun game I wasted about 3 months on when it went F2P, along with a good number of other ZAM people. Will probably go back to it at some point. The combat is good, the game is beautiful, but the story telling is seriously lacking (think vanilla WoW questing). For what it's worth, odd cosmetic items aside, they have one of the better F2P systems out there.


I'll pass.

FFXIV:ARR is coming soon, and I already have my F2P thing going on in the form of Warframe.

Awesome, Awesome fast-paced game of Space Ninjas.

No PvP, not much lore, but **** is the gameplay fun.

Edited, Jul 9th 2013 4:47pm by Lyrailis
#31 Jul 09 2013 at 3:11 PM Rating: Excellent
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Space Ninjas.

It's hard to argue against Space ninjas. That's a trump card if I ever saw one.
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#32 Jul 09 2013 at 3:34 PM Rating: Good
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someproteinguy wrote:
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Space Ninjas.

It's hard to argue against Space ninjas. That's a trump card if I ever saw one.


Exactly.

It is why the game is doing so well. It is in Open Beta right now, but they are heading towards Release.

In fact, Sony contacted them because they wanted the game on PS4, lol. How often does that happen to an Indie developer?

Now, don't get me wrong. "Space Ninjas" ain't the only good thing about Warframe.

It has some nicely done parkour, a huge selection of weapons, a good collection of Warframes (special powersuits that each have their own abilities) and the gameplay is very smooth and solid, especially for a beta.

The guns perform well, the aiming and hit detection (except for 1 enemy in the whole game that needs a little tweak) is very good, it has MMORPG elements to it (crafting, though some tweaks could be done), LOTS of customization with the mod system......

Mmmmm.

LOL, now I'm going off topic.

Edited, Jul 9th 2013 5:38pm by Lyrailis
#33 Jul 09 2013 at 3:38 PM Rating: Good
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I thought Warframe was released as of Patch 8 (Warlord patch)? Steam lists it as full game (Since it doesnt say early access) I could be wrong here.
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#34 Jul 09 2013 at 3:41 PM Rating: Good
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I thought Warframe was released as of Patch 8 (Warlord patch)? Steam lists it as full game (Since it doesnt say early access) I could be wrong here.


Nope, still Beta. I think Steam is just confused, lol. It is an OPEN Beta that anybody can join, though. So it is... very close to a "full game".

I believe they plan on calling it a full game when it is released for PS4 sometime this fall I believe. Not quite sure on that.

But I do know it is still in Beta phase, but a lot of players forget that fact and treat it like an actual full game. It is still lacking some endgame, but this coming Update 9 should bring new stuff for well-geared players to tackle.
#35 Jul 09 2013 at 3:45 PM Rating: Good
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Ohh I got my Closed beta only weapon then (Braton vandal?) and I stopped playing right before the card patch. I went back about a week ago and alot has changed.
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#36 Jul 09 2013 at 8:21 PM Rating: Good
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Ohh I got my Closed beta only weapon then (Braton vandal?) and I stopped playing right before the card patch. I went back about a week ago and alot has changed.


I never saw the Pre-Card thing. I joined right after they put it on Steam (which was after U7 which did the 'card' thing, I think?).

I've heard lots of people saying the game is way more awesome now.

I heard that pre-card thing was unbalanced as all frak, made things incredibly overpowered if done right.
#37 Jul 09 2013 at 8:39 PM Rating: Good
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Idk But I have a Lvl 30 Electric frame and like a Rhino, and Im so, lost now but I dont want to start over which is kinda what i need to do to get used to the card thing. I have tons of weapons and blueprints and Im broke too . I was a leader in Broframe since I used to play alot with MikeB but I quit cause it was making me lag.
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#38 Jul 09 2013 at 8:42 PM Rating: Good
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Idk But I have a Lvl 30 Electric frame and like a Rhino, and Im so, lost now but I dont want to start over which is kinda what i need to do to get used to the card thing. I have tons of weapons and blueprints and Im broke too . I was a leader in Broframe since I used to play alot with MikeB but I quit cause it was making me lag.


If you want, you can look me up in there or I could help you or something.

I ain't the best Warframe player around, but I'm starting to get to where I can finally solo some stuff (I've recently added Hyena to the list of bosses I've solo'd).
#39 Jul 09 2013 at 8:44 PM Rating: Good
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#40 Jul 09 2013 at 8:51 PM Rating: Good
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Ahh. okay. not able to log in right now, but I'll throw an invite when I can, prolly tomorrow morning or somesuch.
#41 Jul 10 2013 at 6:14 AM Rating: Good
Didn't read entire thread...

Maybe it is a sign that WoW might go F2P, with the Cash Shop being their money maker.

EXP Boost Potions? Sure I'd actually buy them after knowing how much, and how long they last.
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#42 Jul 10 2013 at 6:34 AM Rating: Excellent
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Am I really the only one who is severely ****** that they want to sell Lesser Charms of Fortune for RL cash? Smiley: eek
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#43 Jul 10 2013 at 9:03 AM Rating: Good
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My take:

I have no problems with an in-game store in a subscription game, in general. That said, I am 100% against P2W, and I'm taking the broad view on that.

The store sells meaningless cosmetic items and skins? Fine.
The store sells the skins of epic items? Not fine.
The store sells exp booster items? Fine.
The store sells honor booster items? Far less fine.
RMT is the sole way to access the store's items? Not fine (You NEED to have an in-game currency source, even if that just means trading gold for cash).

Pretty much every single F2P game has a subscription model, the use of which negates the need for any gameplay items from the in-game store. To use a TOR example, F2P players gain experience at 75% the rate of sub players. So for them, experience boosters are really desirable. Sub players can still elect to buy/use them (and they get some free as quest rewards), but they have a reduced need for them.

Other things that are common are gear packs (essentially booster packs for item skins - chance for goodies), starter kits (in a WoW context, imagine it includes some exp boosting gear like a veteran player would have, and mount training or something).

Honestly, I have no problem with those.

I only care if you could say your experience is: A) adversely affected by not paying or B) adversely affected by others paying.

If I would need an experience booster to achieve an acceptable leveling rate as a subscriber, that's an issue. If other people leveling faster (gaining honor faster, moving faster, etc.) makes my experience worse as a subscriber, that's an issue. If some people can bypass the entrance rate into endgame by paying real money, that's an issue.

Otherwise, I don't care.
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#44 Jul 10 2013 at 9:06 AM Rating: Good
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Well, I won't presume to speak for anyone else ... but as the only current poster who is actually in one of the regions this applies to, it doesn't bother me. If you aren't on an Asian server, it may never be an issue for you.
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#45 Jul 10 2013 at 9:17 AM Rating: Excellent
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Am I really the only one who is severely ****** that they want to sell Lesser Charms of Fortune for RL cash? Smiley: eek


I'm a little unsettled by it, but certainly not "severely ************* A bit surprised they went that route as opposed to other options, but really what Rhode said:

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If you aren't on an Asian server, it may never be an issue for you.


I'll save the vengeful smiting for if/when it hits the US servers.
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#46 Jul 10 2013 at 10:11 AM Rating: Excellent
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Am I really the only one who is severely ****** that they want to sell Lesser Charms of Fortune for RL cash? Smiley: eek


I don't blame them a bit. I wish I could sell them for RL cash too. I've got over 6k of the useless things.

Initially I was angry, but given Rhode's explanation of the payment model in Asia, no, doesn't bug me. If it's more cost-efficient for, say, a Holy Priest to just buy the charms rather than pay by the minute Smiting for dailies, I don't see it as a big deal. It's not like they're paying for something they don't have the skill to obtain otherwise; charms are not exactly a challenge to get. But think about how much dailies annoy you. Now imagine you're paying by the minute to be annoyed. Until they come up with a product that's always fun instead of sometimes a chore (we could call this fun thing, I dunno, a "game" or something), I don't blame Blizz for offering alternative paths given the model in that region.


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#47 Jul 10 2013 at 10:26 AM Rating: Excellent
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You guys make sense. I don't like it when my anger is vaporized by sense. :(
We'll have to wait and see what items the EU/US ingame stores will get. I hope they just stick to the mounts and pets we currently have in the normal Blizz Store plus similar items.
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Well, I won't presume to speak for anyone else ... but as the only current poster who is actually in one of the regions this applies to, it doesn't bother me. If you aren't on an Asian server, it may never be an issue for you.


It seems pretty clear that the store isn't going to be limited to just the Asian market. I'm sure the Asian market will be getting a different version of the store, but they've made it clear that they're bringing this to multiple sectors.
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#49 Jul 10 2013 at 10:30 AM Rating: Good
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I hate leveling. It might be fun the first hour but in any given RPG, MMO or otherwise, it slowly becomes boring. And it's compounded in MMOs where you might do the same general path over and over again to level different classes and such. I'd gladly pay a small price to lessen that punishment.
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#50 Jul 10 2013 at 10:33 AM Rating: Good
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Sufficient unto the day the evil thereof. So far, they're talking Asia. They may bring other things for other regions, but we don't know how that will pan out. Path of Titans anyone?
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we don't know how that will pan out. Path of Titans anyone?


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