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#27 Apr 11 2012 at 10:15 AM Rating: Good
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The pink/purple box issue is solved by changing your view distance in the game to fair. At least that's what my friend told me and it worked for me.

The objects not respawning seems to be fixed now as I was able to continue with my questing last night.

I was told that the female Troll animation issues were still ongoing so I didn't try to mess with mine.

I haven't gotten very far with a Monk so I haven't decided how it feels yet. I started to try a Troll monk but there were no quests available for me in the Troll starting area so I shelved him. My Pandaran Monk is level 5 or 6, I think.

I leveled a Pandaran Hunter through the entire starting experience before the object issue bug came up and found it very linear but fun even with the heavy crowding. The crowds only seemed to really impact only a few quests so hopefully they find ways to get rid of the bottlenecks.

I'm trying to get a feel for the changes in my abilities and reporting some of my impressions on the Beta class forum. For the most part, my class feels about the same while soloing but I suspect the totem changes will bother me more in groups at least until I get used to the new ones and how they feel like a bunch of special long-cooldown abilities instead of my familiar little farm of sticks that I keep around myself.
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#28 Apr 11 2012 at 6:23 PM Rating: Decent
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it's about testing the new content and helping Blizzard ensure that the product is solid.


Assuming that Blizzard listens to community feed back.

/first 3 months of Cataclysm live

There was a very active Tcrafter community on the beta forums for Cata. Their thoughtful input usually got a "all will be well for live" boxed response. Hopefully Blizzard learns from that /shrug.
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#29 Apr 11 2012 at 8:46 PM Rating: Good
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it's about testing the new content and helping Blizzard ensure that the product is solid.


Assuming that Blizzard listens to community feed back.

/first 3 months of Cataclysm live

There was a very active Tcrafter community on the beta forums for Cata. Their thoughtful input usually got a "all will be well for live" boxed response. Hopefully Blizzard learns from that /shrug.


Let that horse die please Bodhi >.<



Me? I did beta pretty hard core for cata and, I wish I didn't. I plan on, for now at least, waiting until Mop is out before I play it.
#30 Apr 12 2012 at 9:42 AM Rating: Excellent
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Bodhi wasn't the only one annoyed by Blizzards lack of attention to the core theorycrafting community during betas. Cata and WotLK were both worked over and given plenty of analysis. Seemingly all of which was ignored. And, in perfect honesty, after my experience wasting hour upon hour writing sims and spreadsheets (and sharing my results) with those betas, I'm not too keen on doing it again =P

So far on this beta I'm not finding much to get too excited about other than a race change to panda for one of my toons mainly for kitch. Monks are somewhat fun initially, but after playing a rogue and (especially) druid, I'm not blown away by them. Just a new flavor of combo points really. The zones so far are still a bit buggy but nothing unusual for this stage of testing (though it still feels like a late alpha rather than an early beta). Once you get past the knuckle-heads at least. The environments are pretty and well art directed, the questing is nothing new.

My next session will be dedicated to testing my druid. Not too happy about the feral split, but until trying it....

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#31 Apr 12 2012 at 1:33 PM Rating: Good
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zestra wrote:
Is playing in the beta worth it?
Last thing I want is to burn out on MOP before it actually release. I like the excitement of the release day and feeling like a noob again. No Beta for me.
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#32 Apr 13 2012 at 12:19 PM Rating: Good
Finally got my invite last night, woo hoo! Although, if I start playing now, that will cut into my Dragon Age time. So I might wait another couple weeks or so before I start playing. Maybe that'll give Blizz enough time to work out some more of the serious bugs.
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#33 Apr 13 2012 at 12:41 PM Rating: Good
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Pigtails, GW2 beta says "hello" =)
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#34 Apr 13 2012 at 1:19 PM Rating: Good
I have a hard enough time just logging into WoW once a month. I can't handle another MMO right now.
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#35 Apr 13 2012 at 1:49 PM Rating: Good
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Pigtails, GW2 beta says "hello" =)


Is it up yet? I prepurchased, so I get guaranteed access, but I haven't gotten an email yet.
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#36 Apr 13 2012 at 2:33 PM Rating: Good
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GW2 (edit: closed beta) stress test this weekend it seems. Which means we get a new open beta client next week for download as a rational assumption. Full-on open beta for the masses either April 20-23rd, or 27-30th. From what I've seen, release in June is my best guess. Oh, and PT, does "no subscription fee" tickle you or is that my feather flail?

Logged into the MoP beta last night for a few minutes (had dinner plans). Rolled an orc monk just to see the animations. Let's just say, not ready for prime time =) But it was interesting to see the other races with the new class. Just wish I could go goblin!

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#37 Apr 20 2012 at 5:36 PM Rating: Good
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I got into the beta, how does it work. Don't I have to select the PTR from the launcher somewhere?
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#38 Apr 20 2012 at 6:27 PM Rating: Excellent
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You need to download the beta client, it will not work with the retail client or PTR. Make sure you check battle.net to see what account name your beta is under (WOW1, WOW2, WOW3, etc) because many people are confused when the beta asks them to select an account to log in as and if you pick the wrong one nothing will happen.
#39 Apr 20 2012 at 10:26 PM Rating: Good
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I got into the beta, how does it work. Don't I have to select the PTR from the launcher somewhere?

You could, I dunno, read the email that Blizzard sent you? Smiley: facepalm
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#40 Apr 21 2012 at 1:15 AM Rating: Excellent
I'm confused as to why there is no starter quest. I was only able to figure out where the starting quests are, because I had made a premade, and they were at least smart enough to start out the premades where the first quest is. I checked Org, and neither the quest board nor Garrosh had any starter quest, and nobody in trade chat would tell me where the quests started.
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#41 Apr 21 2012 at 2:39 PM Rating: Good
I imagine the breadcrumb quests just haven't been implemented yet. It'd be stupid of them not to have them
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#42 Apr 21 2012 at 9:01 PM Rating: Good
Yeah, I just think that should have been something they implemented from the start. How else are we supposed to figure out where to go if there isn't some indication in game? If not in game, you'd think there at least would be a sticky in the beta forums. I looked, I didn't see any.
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#43 Apr 21 2012 at 11:52 PM Rating: Decent
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ITT: QQing about a beta not being finished.

Leveling hasn't really even been put in the game yet, they're still testing out abilities and balancing them.

****, they're still fixing the spec/talent system.
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#44 Apr 22 2012 at 1:00 PM Rating: Good
I don't expect the beta to be finished at this point Theo. I don't think it's unreasonable to expect there to be a bread crumb quest for the new 85 content though. For the Cata beta, I got in after about two weeks, and they already had the bread crumb quests for the level 80 zones. Hyjal wasn't even close to being complete, but Vash was pretty well done. The beta for MoP has been out for almost two months now. I would think Blizz would recognize that most people who play the game don't like just randomly killing ****, so if they want to test out abilities and balance them, the best way to do this is to make sure people know where to go for the new quests.
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#45 Apr 22 2012 at 2:51 PM Rating: Good
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People have been encouraged to think of betas as previews by game companies that use them as such. Often, the open beta is more advertisement than test.
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#46 Apr 22 2012 at 6:34 PM Rating: Decent
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I don't expect the beta to be finished at this point Theo. I don't think it's unreasonable to expect there to be a bread crumb quest for the new 85 content though. For the Cata beta, I got in after about two weeks, and they already had the bread crumb quests for the level 80 zones. Hyjal wasn't even close to being complete, but Vash was pretty well done. The beta for MoP has been out for almost two months now. I would think Blizz would recognize that most people who play the game don't like just randomly killing sh*t, so if they want to test out abilities and balance them, the best way to do this is to make sure people know where to go for the new quests.

Expecting a beta to be exactly like the one before when they have a completely new way of getting people into the beta isn't really that smart.

Sure, they could have put breadcrumb quests in to lead you by the hand to the panda that ports you to the conflict zone. But honestly? I can see why they didn't. The developers are obviously focused on talents and abilities at this point, and they aren't doing the beta for you. The beta is for them. They test, figure out mechanics, etc.

This is really like their early closed betas in the past (which being opted into doesn't get you in, you have to be invited by a Blizzard employee specifically), like the WotLK beta I took part in. It's not like the Cata beta or the later stages of the WotLK beta.

Just for reference, they also didn't have breadcrumb quests in WotLK. They didn't for Cata closed beta either.

TL;DR the devs don't care about your experience at this point. They care about the balance they're trying to achieve, then they'll work on your experience.
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#47 Apr 22 2012 at 10:16 PM Rating: Good
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I got into the beta, how does it work. Don't I have to select the PTR from the launcher somewhere?

You could, I dunno, read the email that Blizzard sent you? Smiley: facepalm




Can't read an email if it was never sent, at least in my case. I have Beta access, but never received an email from Blizzard.
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#48 Apr 22 2012 at 11:47 PM Rating: Good
Um, yeah I took the portal the panda gives you. It took me to an area with no quests, and a bunch of world pvp going on. How is that in any way asking to have my hand held?

I'm not whining about bugs, or not having quests completely fleshed out, or anything like that. I know what a beta is supposed to be about. If they didn't have the time to put in a breadcrumb quest, fine. At the very least they could have had the panda who ports you, port you to where the first quest is given, or posted a sticky on the forum about where to go. I really don't feel like I'm asking for that much here.
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#49 Apr 23 2012 at 12:23 PM Rating: Excellent
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On the Alliance side the panda has two options "Pandaria" and "Wayward Landing". No explanation of either and Wayward Landing is where our quests start. Fortunately there are a few people with excellent macros that they post every couple minutes that explain things better than Blizzard does. I still managed to pick the wrong option from the panda, but I got to check out some amazing scenery on my ride across the zone.

On an unrelated topic, it's embarassing how reliant I got on my flying mount and I get lost so easily traveling by ground. But so far the scenery in the new zones is worth taking a look at.
#50 Apr 23 2012 at 9:45 PM Rating: Good
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On the Alliance side the panda has two options "Pandaria" and "Wayward Landing". No explanation of either and Wayward Landing is where our quests start. Fortunately there are a few people with excellent macros that they post every couple minutes that explain things better than Blizzard does. I still managed to pick the wrong option from the panda, but I got to check out some amazing scenery on my ride across the zone.

On an unrelated topic, it's embarassing how reliant I got on my flying mount and I get lost so easily traveling by ground. But so far the scenery in the new zones is worth taking a look at.

If you choose Pandaria, there's a portal back to Stormwind and you can very easily choose Wayward Landing.

You guys are making it out to be the end of the world that you have to figure things out that aren't being spoon-fed to you.
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#51 Apr 23 2012 at 11:57 PM Rating: Good
Well they haven't gotten that far horde side then, because I didn't have any option to choose anything. It just sent me right inside a town with a flight path and a bunch of people pvping.
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