Azaza wrote:
I know that many folks dislike Gnomeregan and Blackrock Depths, for example, for being large, time consuming dungeons (for the intended level players), but I think it's faulty player expectations to "like" every dungeon that Blizzard puts out. "Different" isn't necessarily bad, and "fun" is relative from one player to the next.
Tweaking and tuning (and revamping in the extreme rarity) I can understand. But such outright "bribery" "compensation" to run that dungeon, as if Blizzard is saying "We're sorry for making you endure it uptil now", is unnecessary. Almost like they're admitting failure/stupidity for creating it (some players opinion), which I think is unfair to say.
And yes, I'm gonna stick to the "each dungeon is like a snowflake" argument. And I'm willing to accept others may not agree. :)
But this is a different situation than BRD and Gnomer. Not wanting to go to Gnomer or BRD is voluntary. The random LFG puts you in Oculus, you don't have a choice in the matter.
What happens is most people don't want to do it, so they leave the group. Either A. they don't like it because it's boring or B. they don't like it because people fail so hard at it. So they bail on the group, and then someone else leaves and ultimately one or two people left with their thumbs up their butts and a 15 minute debuff that doesn't allow them to requeue for another random heroic just to complete their frost badge daily.
This is just a little more incentive for people to stay. And it really isn't that big of a bonus to be honest.
8 emblems of triumph, 1 more than nexus or gundrak.
Gems, a nice source of income, but pretty easy to come by already, I mean I get so many from converting stone keeper shards into honor points, that my guilds bank is sitting at about 20 of each color and I've become tired of selling them on AH, or even going to WG to convert the shards into honor.
I'm not sure about the extra gear, is it going to be ilevel 200 similar to the gear that drops there now, or is it going to be iL 232 like the stuff that drops in ICC heroics. If it's the 200 then it is just vendor trash like everything else that drops, if it is 232 it will be nice, probably some decent upgrades, but it will be no different than the ICC heroics are now, where I see most of that gear is being sharded.
Another chance at the mount is probably the biggest boon.
I like the change to be honest, never had a problem with OC before, never was hard, just no one did it. Now it seems like I am always being put in that instance, and then being stuck standing around for 15 minutes not able to get anything done because the rest of the group bailed just because it was that instance.