SynnTastic wrote:
Have you been keeping up with all the new info?
Shadow Priests mana/health regen has been nerfed. It no long scales but is a flat return. On top of that, they are not the only class to have this ability. And now more classes also have a mana return, most notably survival hunter.
Because Shadow Priests no longer have that unique raid utility of mana batery, thier DPS needed to be boosted to compensate, otherwise Spriests would be "lawl respec holy, we can use SV hunter as mana battery".
That's what people are getting at, those classes that had unique raid utility pretty much no long have that uniqueness, and as such to compensate, their DPS needed to be boosted to more equal numbers so they wouldn't be excluded from raids. And vice versa for classes with high dps with little to no raid utility.
I don't think it's going to be all that difficult to accomplish as far as PvE balance is concerned. The more difficult part is going to be for this same equalization to carry over into arena and see how imbalanced it becomes over time. Then the impending changes to compensate for Arena inadequacies are going to carry back over to the PvE world and throw things out of whack, then changes there. It's going to be a viscious never ending cycle of balancing isses.
Well yes, I did read that shadow priest are getting nerfed but from understanding how important mana returns are going to be for healers in the near future shadow priests even nerfed will still be necessary for PvE circumstances.
I have a hunter and I have not been keeping up with hunter specs, Im actually very happy to hear survival is making a minimal comeback, I always enjoyed survival spec pre-bc and would like to give it another go on that toon. I also know that for the most part, hunters will not spec full survival for the 20% chance on a critical strike on only 3 attacks to get 2% mana back, possibly if dps is comperable while specced survival, but I just dont see that happening. We all know how most hunters are! They want to be BM specced, and they will continue to the be BM specced.
cafeen wrote:
On top of the flat return, that return is both nerfed into the ground (0.25% of max mana per second, so with 70 gear, down from ~400mp5 to 125 mp5). It also takes more for a spriest to get the buff going than it does the other classes. (VT up then MB while it's up vs a judgement or a crit). It's been pretty standard for spriests on PTR and on Beta to no longer use VT, since the uptime from Hunter/Pally is roughly 100%, more than enough to cover us not using it. Shadow weaving is a personal buff only now, and misery is pretty weak (3% hit vs 5% dmg, when most classes aim to personal hit cap). So, our utility is gutted. Without an improvement to DPS (a large improvement mind you) raids will be better off bringing another class over a spriest every time.
Of course, the DPS value of spriests is still "being worked on". But with only a week or so before 3.0, we'll see what happens there.
Ok you guys are really scaring me now, god, which toon should I level to 80 first! Im honestly starting to think my paly! :(
