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#27 Jun 27 2008 at 5:13 PM Rating: Default
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If there's an expansion with Pandaren, Worgen will be their Horde counterparts.
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#28 Jun 27 2008 at 5:31 PM Rating: Decent
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So Maelstrom is when they'll open Gilneas eh? Those refugees will be waiting a long time at the wall.
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#29 Jun 27 2008 at 5:42 PM Rating: Decent
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I dunno. Pandaren currently have a lot more lore with the Horde than they do with the Alliance. I mean, Chen and Rezzar were buddies, and Chen's empty barrells can be found all over the Barrens.

Worgen could be connected to the Humans, although they tend to hate everything... There are Worgen out there that appear Human normally, but turn into the wolf form under the full moon (AKA Werewolves).

The Human Priesthood and Clergy could be looking for a way to eliminate this malady and make them fully Human, or at least let them control the Worgen form.

When thinking about it, that could be a racial thing. Make them look like hairier, brutish humans (Worgen are intelligent though) and give them a "Berserk" like ability that will turn them into a Worgen for X seconds. Their other racial could be an aura (personal or group) that changes depending on if it is night or day. Maybe the Day one could boost casting speeds where the Night one increases Melee speeds?

Oh yeah, and there are videos of people exploring the Emerald Dream on YouTube. Apperently, some of it is alreay in the game and players used to be able to enter (with a ban following, of course).

It is apparently about 2/3 the size of Outland atm, so it could easily be a whole expansion.

Rescuing Malfurion Stormrage and stopping all of Nature dying sounds epic enough to me...

Oh yeah, and they can find Cenarius (who apparently walks the Dream, waiting to be reborn) and bring him back. :P

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#30 Jun 27 2008 at 6:32 PM Rating: Good
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I wouldn't give up on Pandaren entirely. They could always have normal bear skins applied for China much like the Forsaken have no visible bones there.

Allegience-wise, who knows. Perhaps there could be a new faction, a neutral one, though I really doubt that.

All I know is I want a Brewmaster some day.
#31 Jun 27 2008 at 7:48 PM Rating: Decent
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I think it is fair to say that Blizzard has a pretty steady game plan, they have the story planned out and where they want to take it and what they want to do, a LONG time in advance.

It is not like SOE where they get one expansion done and then sit down and say "what are we doing next?"


Being the EQ2 player here, I had to address this. :)

SOE DOES have a long-term plan for EQ2, same as WoW, it seems. In his time there, Tony "Vhalen" Garcia was the Lore and Continuity guru for the EverQuest franchise. Although he just left SOE a couple months ago, all of the major storylines are plotted out for EQ2 years into the the future, and were before the first day of BETA. Somewhere at SOE headquarters is Vhalen's EQ bible, the binder with all the answers to all the puzzles and the map for all the expansions. This, of course, gives them the ability to place hints throughout the game that echo things to come.

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#32 Jun 27 2008 at 7:52 PM Rating: Good
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I'd opt that the Worgen, if introduced, would be Alliance. Panderans in WCIII were pretty much exclusively associated with the Horde. IIRC, there was also a quest line in Duskwood for the Alliance that was about the Scythe of Elune and how it was able to summon Worgen from another world into Azeroth. The Scythe itself was used to control the Worgen and use them to fight the enemies of the NE. Towards the end of the chain, you find out that the NE who used the Scythe died and that the Scythe had vanished. I'm thinking maybe this opens the door for Worgens in Azeroth or the possiblilty of players going there if the Scythe could be used to establish a portal of some sort.
#33 Jun 27 2008 at 8:03 PM Rating: Excellent
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why did they reskin forsaken models for china?



Apparently you can't show bones in China.

They look like this:
(do not link to RMT sponsored sites like that again)

Edited, Jun 27th 2008 8:53pm by Wordaen


Looks like they likely changed the link Digital, I sent ya a PM so you don't worry the bamhammer is after ya :)
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#34 Jun 28 2008 at 12:53 AM Rating: Good
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The Northrend zones seem spot-on, or at least very close. A sign that this is definitely worth keeping in mind, I reckon.

Edit: I just turned green! Yay! (<-- Edit edit: apparently sentences like that are just too tempting for some. people are mean...)

Edited, Jun 28th 2008 4:53am by fiercestcalm

Edited, Jun 28th 2008 12:52pm by fiercestcalm
#35 Jun 28 2008 at 7:22 AM Rating: Decent
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If there's an expansion with Pandaren, Worgen will be their Horde counterparts.


Wolfenhold - 1 to 10
Xorothian Plains - 10 to 20

Im sticking with my original suggestion which I made when this thread first appeared - Nathrezim, whose home is in Xoroth.
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#36 Jun 28 2008 at 9:54 AM Rating: Good
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A Forsaken skin comparison photo

They don't look too different, just kind of yellowy rotten where the bones used to be.
#37 Jun 28 2008 at 11:20 AM Rating: Good
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Very interesting post. It's funny how you can look back on things from WAYYYY back in 2003 and compare to the present.

Although, the best part of the post in my opinion was the end:

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I'm not sure what the plus signs indicate. I'm trying to get in touch with my friend (we had a falling-out a year and a half ago) to ascertain the origin of this strange little file.


I have no idea what the falling out was about, but kudos to you for getting in touch with him again. Life is too short to let grudges ruin friendships.
#38 Jun 28 2008 at 11:52 AM Rating: Decent
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SWM wrote:
Overlord Theophany wrote:
If there's an expansion with Pandaren, Worgen will be their Horde counterparts.


Wolfenhold - 1 to 10
Xorothian Plains - 10 to 20

Im sticking with my original suggestion which I made when this thread first appeared - Nathrezim, whose home is in Xoroth.

Wolfenhold is home of the Worgen, though.
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#39 Jun 28 2008 at 11:56 AM Rating: Decent
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I dunno, Theophany, Pandaren have closer relations to Horde than Alliance. Alliance already has Worgen that are friendly to them - during the day, anyway. Plus, you guys got belfs and we got squids.
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#40 Jun 28 2008 at 12:09 PM Rating: Good
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Where are Pandaren closer to the Horde? As far as I knew they were mercenary heroes in WC3.
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Interesting. I wonder where the story is headed with all of this. We're already killing off some of the big baddies and it's still relatively early on in script.
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#42 Jun 28 2008 at 12:20 PM Rating: Good
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Where are Pandaren closer to the Horde? As far as I knew they were mercenary heroes in WC3.


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The pandaren are an independent race and any encountered outside the Barrens are wanderers and travelers, belonging to no affiliation. Their outlook meshes well with the Alliance, and most pandaren in Kalimdor are found in the company of Alliance races. Pandaren are eccentric, however, and some feel more at home around the Horde.


I misrembered, as it turned out. I thought I remembered reading most were in the company of the Horde.

In any case, there's a horde quest which involves their beer.
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#43 Jun 28 2008 at 12:42 PM Rating: Good
I went ahead and added this link to the "Ultimate Index Of Guides, Links, And Posts" sticky and wiki in a new section called "The Rumor Mill" (Near the bottom). So next expansion we can see if it's still on the ball. :D

(Thanks ohmikeghod for the suggestion. ^^)
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#44 Jun 28 2008 at 12:53 PM Rating: Excellent
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Wolfenhold is home of the Worgen, though.


Technically, according to WoWWiki, Worgen are actually from another dimension and not on the world of Xoroth. The world of Xoroth is the homeworld of the Nathrezim and present in the same dimension as that of Azeroth. The name Wolfenhold certainly suggests that there would be worgen there, but there is no lore mention of such a location. So it really is a toss up between Worgen and Nathrezim although I'm leaning towards Worgen as it is under the "Planes set". So far, Bliz has brought in new races that are both familiar and new. BE from Azeroth and Draeni from Outland/Argus for BC, I'm thinking Pandarens from Azeroth and Worgen from another plane of exsistance.

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Where are Pandaren closer to the Horde? As far as I knew they were mercenary heroes in WC3.


Go back to WCIII and play the Rexxar campaigns, they show the rapport between the Brewmaster Chen Stormstout and Rexxar. Chen's barrels are also scattered throughout the Barrens and leads to a quest that only the Horde can acquire. This leads to the hypothesis that the Horde are at least marginally closer to the Pandarens then the Alliance.

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Interesting. I wonder where the story is headed with all of this. We're already killing off some of the big baddies and it's still relatively early on in script.


There are still plenty of baddies to be defeated. For the Maelstrom set, you'll probably see Queen Azshara in her Naga form as a raid boss along with another form of Hakkar (seeing as how there is Zandalar) and possibly someone who has discovered the other powers in the corpse of Sargeras in his Tomb within the Broken Isles.

In the Planes set, I suspect maybe a deranged Malfurion Stormrage, possibly Ysera The Sleeper (misguided like Malygos in Northrend), and the Elemental Lords imprisoned in the Elemental plane by the Titans: Ragnaros the Firelord(in his true, fully powered form), Therazane the Stonemother,Al'Akir the Windlord , and Neptulon the Tidehunter.

Finally in the Legion set, I'm thinking Kil'jaeden's full body not sticking out of a Sunwell, Some remaining Dreadlords (Balnazzar resuced and revitalized?), perhaps a corrupted Titan, and most definitely a restored Sargeras.
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Wolfenhold is home of the Worgen, though.


Are you sure? A search of WowWiki yields no results for Wolfenhold which suggests it has not been written into lore yet. In addition to this a search on the term 'worgen' tells us that their homeworld is 'unknown.' The only clue that we have that will enable us to predict who the new race will be using facts to back the prediction up is the Xorothian plains zone. I think it would be a fair assumption to make that this would be on the world of Xoroth. WowWiki tells us the following about Xoroth "Xoroth is one of the fiery, chaotic worlds belonging to the Burning Legion, or more specifically, the Nathrezim (Dreadlords) (and, presumably, the Tothrezim)." No mention of worgen whatsoever. I know that tworgen have the cool factor associated with them but other than the word 'wolf' in the first zone name there isnt really anything else that points to it being them.
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#46 Jun 29 2008 at 1:56 AM Rating: Excellent
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possibly someone who has discovered the other powers in the corpse of Sargeras' avatar in his Tomb within the Broken Isles.


A slight FTFY.


Ancalimanarion wrote:
There are still plenty of baddies to be defeated. For the Maelstrom set, you'll probably see Queen Azshara in her Naga form as a raid boss along with another form of Hakkar (seeing as how there is Zandalar) and possibly someone who has discovered the other powers in the corpse of Sargeras in his Tomb within the Broken Isles.

In the Planes set, I suspect maybe a deranged Malfurion Stormrage, possibly Ysera The Sleeper (misguided like Malygos in Northrend), and the Elemental Lords imprisoned in the Elemental plane by the Titans: Ragnaros the Firelord(in his true, fully powered form), Therazane the Stonemother,Al'Akir the Windlord , and Neptulon the Tidehunter.

Finally in the Legion set, I'm thinking Kil'jaeden's full body not sticking out of a Sunwell, Some remaining Dreadlords (Balnazzar resuced and revitalized?), perhaps a corrupted Titan, and most definitely a restored Sargeras.


In addition to this, we have more CoT stuff to play with, not to mention Deathwing, the Infinite Dragonflight, any remaining Old Gods, whatever is lurking in Uldum, and any number of random things they may add in.
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possibly someone who has discovered the other powers in the corpse of Sargeras' avatar in his Tomb within the Broken Isles.


A slight FTFY.


Ancalimanarion wrote:
There are still plenty of baddies to be defeated. For the Maelstrom set, you'll probably see Queen Azshara in her Naga form as a raid boss along with another form of Hakkar (seeing as how there is Zandalar) and possibly someone who has discovered the other powers in the corpse of Sargeras in his Tomb within the Broken Isles.

In the Planes set, I suspect maybe a deranged Malfurion Stormrage, possibly Ysera The Sleeper (misguided like Malygos in Northrend), and the Elemental Lords imprisoned in the Elemental plane by the Titans: Ragnaros the Firelord(in his true, fully powered form), Therazane the Stonemother,Al'Akir the Windlord , and Neptulon the Tidehunter.

Finally in the Legion set, I'm thinking Kil'jaeden's full body not sticking out of a Sunwell, Some remaining Dreadlords (Balnazzar resuced and revitalized?), perhaps a corrupted Titan, and most definitely a restored Sargeras.


In addition to this, we have more CoT stuff to play with, not to mention Deathwing, the Infinite Dragonflight, any remaining Old Gods, whatever is lurking in Uldum, and any number of random things they may add in.


Also whatever Deathwing was up to with the Netherdragon eggs he recieved from the Dragonmaw Clan, continuing Nef's work.
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#49 Jul 01 2008 at 11:48 PM Rating: Decent
[******************! i was really hoping to play as a goblin eventually and maelstrom would be a perfect expansion for them too! oh well i guess you cant alway get what you want :(

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#50 Jul 02 2008 at 3:15 AM Rating: Good
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Granted the ideas suck, but to be fair, the idea of that whole page is that it's the user/poster's own idea. It never claims to be fact.

I'd like to think that they wouldn't refrain from putting Pandaren in just to appease China. As mentioned above, I'm sure they could reskin them easily enough.
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Granted the ideas suck, but to be fair, the idea of that whole page is that it's the user/poster's own idea. It never claims to be fact.

The problem with his page does not take place now. It takes place when the Maelstrom Xpack is annonced, and his wiki page gets rediscovered. Putting his putridity on WoW-Wiki by itself gives his article an aura of authenticity. And, since some of the information will be correct, people may assume that all of it is correct, when much of it is patently false, misleading, or wishful thinking.
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