Forum Settings
       
Reply To Thread

Wowhead Sells OutFollow

#52 Jun 26 2007 at 8:43 AM Rating: Good
*****
14,326 posts
When did Tomec become an admin and who is this Cyraminanananane fellow?

I wanna be an admin.

I WANT THE POWER!!

But I'm with Bodhi, hopefully Alla will update with Wowhead's kick *** UI. Alla is old. Wowhead is new. The only problem is that Alla isn't vintage.
#53 Jun 26 2007 at 9:06 AM Rating: Decent
***
2,164 posts
The claws are out on this one....

Rawr! Pew Pew!
#54REDACTED, Posted: Jun 26 2007 at 9:26 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) The only reason they dropped IGE is because of all the public suspicion. They own this damn site; they saw how it was! The reason they kept it was for money, and the reason they dropped it for money. But guess what? Just because the parent company doesn't own it anymore doesn't mean the same owners OF the parent company still don't own it.
#55 Jun 26 2007 at 1:45 PM Rating: Excellent
Spankatorium Administratix
*****
1oooo posts
Pif that was ridiculous!

Tomec, new lotro admin. Casey: basically the CS guy, and damn good at it. He is also an avid wow player... BE NICE KIDS.

As for Ahmed, I read his stuff, and even it he thinks he knows it all, he's so way off on most of his info it isn't even funny. Maybe he should have taken some journalism classes to learn how to research his stories. Oh yes, I forget, it's a blog, full of misconception and OPINIONS... and we all know how that saying goes.
____________________________

#56REDACTED, Posted: Jun 26 2007 at 6:10 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Actually, it gets better. This is the internet, full of misconception, opinions, e-peen, and jackassery. What is said on the internet cannot be interpreted as truth, but what's said on the news, via public announcement, can (through direct quotation, not when the media manipulates the meanings of something). When Allakhazam sold to Affinity Media, and Affinity Media was revealed to be the controller of IGE, this became real-world fact. What's said on this board, a blog, and so on cannot be seen as fact, and therefore people can still be paranoid about IGE lingering in the dirty laundry.
#57 Jun 26 2007 at 6:20 PM Rating: Decent
****
4,632 posts
Quote:
All I know is all I know, and that, along with the half-naked ads...


What the hell is wrong with those? Smiley: motz
#58REDACTED, Posted: Jun 26 2007 at 6:25 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) You wouldn't say that it if was man-crotch >.>
#59 Jun 26 2007 at 8:08 PM Rating: Excellent
Spankatorium Administratix
*****
1oooo posts
Well Pif I am pretty sure I have been here longer than you and Affinity Media, or IGE for that matter. And I can't tell you more than what I know.
____________________________

#60REDACTED, Posted: Jun 26 2007 at 8:11 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I'm aware of your time spent here. My arguement against that was that money changes people. When Affinity Media came along, the option of a raise to make sure you keep things classified became a motive. It may not be realistic, it may be paranoid, and it may be disrespectful in some regard... but the possibility is there.
#61 Jun 26 2007 at 8:46 PM Rating: Excellent
Spankatorium Administratix
*****
1oooo posts
I know nothing classified, you must have me mistaken as Allakhazam.
____________________________

#62REDACTED, Posted: Jun 26 2007 at 8:52 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) The same arguement applies to denying you don't have any information >.>
#63 Jun 26 2007 at 9:38 PM Rating: Good
Drama Nerdvana
******
20,674 posts
Pifuaa wrote:
The same arguement applies to denying you don't have any information >.>

...it's pointless really to keep talking about this.



But it is not pointless to keep making baseless assumptions as to the nature of the deal.

I heard Alla acquired Wowhead by paying them in small asian babies!
____________________________
Bode - 100 Holy Paladin - Lightbringer
#64REDACTED, Posted: Jun 26 2007 at 9:42 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) It's not baseless. I've already argued why there's a reason to assume what I do. It's not like I'm saying, "Allakhazam is whoring Chuck Norris to meteorites so he can create weapons of mass-destruction."
#65 Jun 26 2007 at 9:52 PM Rating: Good
Drama Nerdvana
******
20,674 posts
Pifuaa wrote:
bodhisattva wrote:
Pifuaa wrote:
The same arguement applies to denying you don't have any information >.>

...it's pointless really to keep talking about this.



But it is not pointless to keep making baseless assumptions as to the nature of the deal.

I heard Alla acquired Wowhead by paying them in small asian babies!


It's not baseless.


It must be nice to be so completely disconnected with reality.
____________________________
Bode - 100 Holy Paladin - Lightbringer
#66REDACTED, Posted: Jun 26 2007 at 9:55 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I guess the omission of the entirety of the rest of the post means you have nothing with which to argue with. I don't see the need to waste your time saying redundant useless garbage about your posts, so how about you spare mine?
#67 Jun 26 2007 at 10:03 PM Rating: Good
Drama Nerdvana
******
20,674 posts
Pifuaa wrote:
I guess the omission of the entirety of the rest of the post means you have nothing with which to argue with.



Means it was not worth addressing really, cause you're a thick cnut and arguing suppositions, assumptions, and pure conjecture isn't my idea of a fun Tuesday night.

Of course if you weren't such a dense twunt you would have realized that.


/shrug
____________________________
Bode - 100 Holy Paladin - Lightbringer
#68 Jun 27 2007 at 6:42 AM Rating: Decent
****
4,632 posts
Again, I don't agree with Ahmed, but he should be unbanned. Got this e-mail...

Quote:
I saw that you posted if I could be unbanned - thanks. Alas I tried
posting again to defend myself, but no can do.

Easy to ash someone when they can't say anything back. Oh well, not
surprised with them :(

-A


This site really is starting to sink if you can't argue to the guy's face. Again, I don't believe it, but wouldn't the average user, the sort of person you surely wish to attract to your site, think that there might be an ounce of truth to what this guy is saying if you ban him outright?
#69 Jun 27 2007 at 8:19 AM Rating: Excellent
**
299 posts
Pifuaa wrote:
Mistress Darqflame wrote:
Pif that was ridiculous!

Well the money part can't be wrong, right? O.O;

Mistress Darqflame wrote:

Oh yes, I forget, it's a blog, full of misconception and OPINIONS... and we all know how that saying goes.


Actually, it gets better. This is the internet, full of misconception, opinions, e-peen, and jackassery. What is said on the internet cannot be interpreted as truth, but what's said on the news, via public announcement, can (through direct quotation, not when the media manipulates the meanings of something). When Allakhazam sold to Affinity Media, and Affinity Media was revealed to be the controller of IGE, this became real-world fact. What's said on this board, a blog, and so on cannot be seen as fact, and therefore people can still be paranoid about IGE lingering in the dirty laundry.

What facts are known, are what founds people's suspicions. How can you trust someone working for the company that they aren't in secret co-op with IGE? How can you trust anything but the solid evidence?

All I know is all I know, and that, along with the half-naked ads and the earlier disturbing ads that got removed later, makes me think that this site isn't perfect, and that makes me think that money can lead people to do things they otherwise wouldn't do. So I trust no one. It's my policy in real life too, and it's served me well. Because of my objectivity and cynicism, I've avoided hellish situations. I'm not saying something "hellish" is going to happen by the forum members of Allakhazam by trusting the admins, I'm just saying that perhaps that trust isn't well-founded.

The worst that could happen is keyloggers, and I doubt a big-name company would resort to that and live to tell about it. *thinks of Sony*

So I'm cool being on Allakhazam. I just don't trust the hired staff. It's just how I am, I guess. I'm too skeptical of humanity to think that you guys wouldn't try to cover your asses if IGE was still a part of this whole shibang. So no offense really, it's just I'm not the trusting type until someone proves themself to me.


Question, Pif--Speaking as a member of the ZAM Corporate staff, this is something that's come up a lot. What WOULD it take for us to prove that IGE is no longer involved? We keep trying to come up with something we can publish that will put all doubt to rest--but we ALSO have to respect the privacy of the parties engaged in the deal, since it WAS sold to a private investor, for a sum of money that is ALSO intended to be private (and before you ask, I don't know either).

Is there anything that we could POSSIBLY do that could prove this? Even if we scan a signed contract into .pdf form, and post it on some site somewhere, we'll get accused of photoshopping it. What can we DO, here? Not much use in having great news to tell people if no one believes you.

Edited, Jun 27th 2007 12:20pm by cyamarin
#70 Jun 27 2007 at 9:11 AM Rating: Excellent
****
6,678 posts
Pifuaa, can I interest you in a tin foil hat? There is absolutely nothing you have argued that I can't liken to other ridiculous claims. Oh, but I'm a site admin. It's in my best interest to argue that you are wrong. (If you follow that to it's logical conclusion, I would have you muted, and you can still post.)

Pifuaa wrote:
I guess the omission of the entirety of the rest of the post means you have nothing with which to argue with. I don't see the need to waste your time saying redundant useless garbage about your posts, so how about you spare mine?


Or it just wasn't as fully relevant to what the person wanted to say? I wasn't aware that every quote had to respond to every individual word of a post. Perhaps he was conceding, or perhaps it wasn't worth the bother, just as I'm not quoting and replying in painstaking detail to every one of your posts.


Dodobird wrote:
Again, I don't agree with Ahmed, but he should be unbanned. Got this e-mail...
Quote:
I saw that you posted if I could be unbanned - thanks. Alas I tried
posting again to defend myself, but no can do.

Easy to ash someone when they can't say anything back. Oh well, not
surprised with them :(


-A


This site really is starting to sink if you can't argue to the guy's face. Again, I don't believe it, but wouldn't the average user, the sort of person you surely wish to attract to your site, think that there might be an ounce of truth to what this guy is saying if you ban him outright?


Bolded for emphasis. Isn't this hypocritical? He's making ridiculous claims against us on his turf in a medium where we can't really defend ourselves, and then he expects us to do otherwise?

He is being purposelessly false and slanderous, except of course that he has vested interest in competing parties as has been brought up previously. My bet is Mister Ahmed will take whatever chance he can to dig in any and all knives he is able to. Of course, that's just my guess -- I don't want to be the hypocrite.
____________________________
Only the exceptions can be exceptional.
#71 Jun 27 2007 at 9:14 AM Rating: Decent
****
4,148 posts
cyamarin wrote:
Question, Pif--Speaking as a member of the ZAM Corporate staff, this is something that's come up a lot. What WOULD it take for us to prove that IGE is no longer involved?


As far as Zam is concerned as long as they don't promote/endorse rmt it'll be fine with me.
Considering that in the year or so they have been aquired, they [zam] has not changed their stance to promote/endorse rmt, it's be fine with me.

If anything I think the sister sites cleaned up unless I'm remembering wrong.
#72 Jun 27 2007 at 10:03 AM Rating: Default
who cares?
#73 Jun 27 2007 at 10:35 AM Rating: Decent
****
4,632 posts
Azuarc wrote:

Bolded for emphasis. Isn't this hypocritical? He's making ridiculous claims against us on his turf in a medium where we can't really defend ourselves, and then he expects us to do otherwise?


Actually, you're more than free to post comments on his blog, as I did.
#74REDACTED, Posted: Jun 27 2007 at 11:50 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) How is banning him defending yourself? It sounds like you had a temper-tantrum and didn't want to deal with things maturely. I wonder why I'd think you'd be capable of the topic he revived?
#75 Jun 27 2007 at 12:15 PM Rating: Good
****
4,632 posts
Pifuaa, there's a difference between being logical and cool-headed, and being outright rude, loud, annoying, and just a cunt in general.

Ahmed is the former.

You are the latter.

He was willing to argue his points in a civil way, and personally contact me via e-mail despite the disagreement. Now, look at what you're saying to Azuarc. You can't possibly claim that you are any better than him. Stuff like, "Get your emotional sh*t straight and grow up" isn't helping you to argue your points at all.

And honestly, if you believe that these forums have gone so far to hell, then why are you here, anyways?

Regardless of what Ahmed is saying about this site and its connections, he is still acting maturely, even in the face of disagreement and the occasional hostility.
#76 Jun 27 2007 at 12:30 PM Rating: Default
DodoBird wrote:
Now, look at what you're saying to Azuarc. You can't possibly claim that you are any better than him. Stuff like, "Get your emotional sh*t straight and grow up" isn't helping you to argue your points at all.


Hello? No one listened to my points anyways. Plus, I'd love to rephrase that sentence in a better way, but he's an admin and he should learn to be professional. If he can't take that remark, it proves my point in-and-of itself.

EDIT: And yeah, I'm more than thinking about leaving. People are getting too emotional to for discussion, and the karma system, of course, is being abused. I forsee the fact when my karma's going to kick the bucket and do it anyways. When it ends up coming true, it just makes me think worse and worse of the people who rate me down. So after I go down fighting, then I'll probably leave. I won't scrape even a scrap of logic into people who are the ones getting crazy-angry at me, but I'll try anyways.

What's that saying, never give up?

Edited, Jun 27th 2007 3:43pm by Pifuaa
Reply To Thread

Colors Smileys Quote OriginalQuote Checked Help

 

Recent Visitors: 12 All times are in CST
Anonymous Guests (12)