The Wall or the Wind? Which class is best "Survivor?"Follow

Plate armor with stamina, intellect and + healing ~320 Hours
A sheild that can withstand armeggedon ~ 40 hours
Encahntment of Stamina to everything possible ~ 500g roughly.
Respeccing to Holy/Prot 1g.
Surviving for 20 minutes agansit 5 rogues ~ Priceless

Surviving somethings is easy.
For everything else there is Paladin.

If you allow players to react with skills, then paladins are going to be the most-enduring, easily. If the issue is "who would stand up the longest to a boss?" where you aren't the one healing yourself, then it's another argument entirely.

And the wall/wind thing is an interesting argument. Prior to the last patch, my hunter was specced survival. Interesting balance between the two, because I could take hits better than a rogue, but dodge much better than a warrior. I can't say I really outlasted a prot warrior with pumped chance to block/dodge/parry and tons of armor and sta, but I could keep up with just about anyone else.

1-1 pallys played correctly are the longest surviving class in the game this is assuming that all classes would be starting combat not on any cooldowns.... pallys have to be killed 2-3 times before they actually die.... shaman can self heal forever but they have problems with rogues keeping them stun locked and kicking them to interupt their heals they wear only mail and simply cant stop a rogue from decimating them 1-1 pallys can bubble out of anything if it gets tough heal back up to full very quickly and against casters just let you run out of mana then kill you melee classes against pallys know what they are up against and its flat out a pain in the ***.

there are a lot of assumptions made in this statement... as i said no cooldowns on the attacker or the pally also assumptions of fairly equal gear
lets say a t3 rogue against a t3 pally while the dps output of the rogue is very high the healing and defensive abilities of the pally counter that... the other assumption made is WELL PLAYED that is nearly always the key any class with fantastic gear and low skill can be easily defeated.. but a well played opponent of any class will give anyone trouble.


the best thing about pvp imo is it teaches you how to react very quickly because you don't have time and very infrequently do you have anyone or anything else but your self to rely on for winning and surviving a fight unlike a raid.... with 20-40 people to help you. in pvp you must be able to learn how to maximize the effectiveness or your spec build as well as select the appropriate gear for pvp'ing

the other thing that many people miss out on in pvp is it is possibly the best practice arena for your skills in the game.... next to zero durability loss and therefore gold expense for repairs from deaths.... and you can practice every skill in the game to sharpen your abilities for end game raids.

oh and for those that think a buble can be purged by a shammy... while there are reports of it happening.. it CANNOT be purged.... this is a glitch much in the same way players have been banished by a lock it happens but its only a glitch

if you want an explanation from a " lore " side of things ...pally bubble ( divine shield) is DIVINE ie an ability that is sort of like a gift from a god
so it makes sense that no mortal can remove or dispel it... take that and the healing/plate/ lay on hands etc and pallys are simply put extremely hard for anyone to kill when well played.

My first character was a dwarven paladin, which was holy/protection-specced, 1H-weapon + shield. I simply didn't die in PvE. And in PvP people were actually trying to avoid me, not wanting to get into an hour-long battle to finally beat me once I ran out of mana or got bored.

I always wondered who this mysterious "spirit healer" was the others kept mentioning...

;)

My druid is a resto-feral hybrid and he's definitely harder to kill than my tank and mage in PVP situations. Similar to a pally I can heal and get great armor from bear form; and for those awkward casting moments a combination of bombs, war stomp and defiler's trinket does the trick. But while survivability is ok I have a sizeable inability to kill.

Resto Druids are like the energizer bunny.

They go on and on and on and on....

As a 17 shaman I can usually get a twink rogue down to 1/3 health before dying.

Two levels below, no enchants and far less superior gear?

I would say that I do good.

But, a well played Paladin of equal level at the low bracket, is basically a game of luck. If I crit often, he goes down. If he crits often, I go down.

No other classes could fight like that simply because they don't have the same class abilities. Against multiple enemies:
Pallies would heal/bubble, Hammer of Justice, Consecrate, and outlast the enemies.
Druids would either Moonfire, Hurricane, and Healing Touch if resto or balance, or use Bear form and HoT's if feral.
Locks can banish/fear and DoT the heck outta enemies.
Hunters can use pet for tanking, then Volley, poison sting, and range DPS while healing the pet.
Priests can bubble, Shadow Word: Pain, fear, and heal; or go Shadow form and use Vampiric Embrace.
Warriors can charge in, pop Retaliation and Shield Wall, and start Cleaving, Whirlwinding, and would probably have to use a health pot.
Rogues can Sap, Gouge, Blind, and DPS one target at a time until they're dead.
Mages can nuke and freeze the enemies, with either Improved Blizzard or Frost Nova, killing them all at once.
I'm not familiar with Shaman, someone else can sketch out their tactic.

What about Wall or Wind? Which is more effect what does does everyone think? I'm asking this because it will help me better understand the stats. Like Wall, does more armor (from shield and plate) help with damage resistance from spells or are resistances the only Way? And does high agility help with magic as well? (Can you dodge a spell?) and if so which is the prefered method? The brute "let me eat damage" wall or the "ha ha You can't touch me!" wind?