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#1 Dec 02 2006 at 2:14 AM Rating: Default
has anyone else wondered why this things can work and people get away with it cuase i was loking at a few for giggles and im wondering how people get away with getting like 1 or 2 thousand gold sent to them with out blizz instabaning them
#2 Dec 02 2006 at 2:45 AM Rating: Decent
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They cant prove that you payed RL money for the gold. For all they know that person is paying you for something in game. People mail gold all the time.
#3 Dec 02 2006 at 3:01 AM Rating: Decent
ya i guess, i always forget how expesive so items get :'(
#4 Dec 02 2006 at 5:09 AM Rating: Decent
Blizz goes after the sellers more than the buyers. Of course they could change that at any time, so it is not a safe thing to do. More than that though, it is cheating, causes inflation, and cheapens the playtime experience. The items your character has will mean so much more to you when you earn them.

I know some former gold buyers (luckily they have now reformed) and they would do things like buy an axe of the deep woods on Monday, and vendor it within a week for something else. It's funny to see how much happier they are now and how much more enjoyment they get out of the game since they have realized it was wrong to do and stopped. A buddy of mine has just gotten his epic mount for one of his 60's, totally earned on his part. He is so proud that he worked for all of the gold, and it means a lot more to him than the one paypal bought. Get the most out of the game and don't cheat. Don't buy gold!!

Just scan the FAQ or various money making posts here on the forum. Making money in wow is fun, not too hard, and very rewarding.
#5 Dec 02 2006 at 9:26 AM Rating: Decent
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I don't know why Blizzard doesn't look at HUGE money transfers. If someone sent 3,000g from a level 1 AH mule called Igegold4u I would be suspicious.
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#6 Dec 04 2006 at 4:24 AM Rating: Decent
I wonder how they get the gold they are selling.

Hacking?
#7 Dec 04 2006 at 5:42 AM Rating: Good
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not hacking, botting most likely.
#8 Dec 04 2006 at 5:45 AM Rating: Decent
hmmm

What does botting mean? (english is not my native language and its not in the dictionary)
#9 Dec 04 2006 at 5:46 AM Rating: Decent
Zirrio wrote:
I wonder how they get the gold they are selling.

Hacking?

Gold is easy to make. 6000G/week on a 24-hour account (and probably more) is well within the bounds of reason without botting.

Edited, Dec 4th 2006 5:51am by ohmikeghod
#10 Dec 04 2006 at 5:49 AM Rating: Good
I think it would be worth the price of admission if Blizzard started banning people who have bought gold, I think you would also see many people gone you never would have expected.
#11 Dec 04 2006 at 6:02 AM Rating: Default
Agreed. You would be surprised at the amount of people who buy gold. It's not just the rich snobby folks who have too much money to waste.
#12 Dec 04 2006 at 6:02 AM Rating: Decent
I cant`t understand why people buy gold. For me it`s a part of the game to play well enough on the AH togheter with choosing the right skills for my character and thus earn the cash I need.

If Blizzard really wanted to stop buying of gold, they could just scan the mail delivery. If one single character mails more than 2-3k of gold in one week - check it out.

It should also be possible to stop people from advertising within the game. There´s always a toon inside Ironforge announcing their low price for gold. I have reported it to Blizzard several times but nothing happens.
#13 Dec 04 2006 at 7:24 AM Rating: Decent
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After spending 2.5 years in FFXI, I laugh uproariously at people who think it's hard to make cash in WoW.

Big time.
#14 Dec 04 2006 at 7:34 AM Rating: Decent
After spending 2.5 years in FFXI, I laugh uproariously at people who think it's hard to make cash in WoW.

Big time.

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HAHAHA

I played FFXI for 2.5 years as well...

I too laugh uproariously at people who think it's hard to make money at WoW.

Compared to FFXI making money in WoW is like winning the lottery everyday.
#15 Dec 04 2006 at 9:57 AM Rating: Good
Kquad... why exactly are you advertising an account buying/selling website in your sig?

Kquad wrote:

Agreed. You would be surprised at the amount of people who buy gold. It's not just the rich snobby folks who have too much money to waste.

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#16 Dec 04 2006 at 10:30 AM Rating: Decent
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The ToS prohibits selling of in game items, not buying. Yes the market exists because there is a demand and reducing the demand would naturally limit the supply... but Blizzard for some reason has not deemed this an appropriate strategy. *Supposedly* accounts get flagged when transferring in excess of 5000 gold, but that may just be a rumor.

Regardless, there would be no way for Blizzard to ever prove you paid RL currency for gold unless they sued the gold seller, got a subpoena, and found a copy of the transaction including your name, your character's name, and your credit card info. For all they can prove, it was just a benevolent chinese farmer sending random people bundles of gold.

Now of course that sounds rather ridiculous but it is the reason that Blizzard seeks to shut down the sellers. However, even then they are limited in their options. They can pretty much only shut down those accounts that are using 3rd party programs (i.e. bots) or those that are being shared by multiple individuals (in which case you would need multiple IPs... which is unlikely on a sharded computer).

There is no easy solution for Blizzard, as obvious as it may seem. Remember Blizzard is a business and has to operate within certain legal restrictions; they can't ban people on a hunch that they must have bought any large amount of gold sent to them.

And as to why people buy gold? I'd say three types of people off the top of my head:
1. The Casual - Either they just started the game or just don't play much. They want the best BoE's but don't want to spend the time to grind for the gold. They just like to hop on and dink around for a little while and don't want to spend their limited time farming when they can have that item now! This person is the most likely waste gold over and over as they buy BoE epics on their road from 1-60, forgetting that low level BoE's are quickly replaced.
2. The PVPer - Caught up in the unrelenting PVP grind, this person needs gold for repairs, pots, and the items they earn. Unfortunately being trapped in a battleground all day leaves them no time to farm. They buy gold to prop up their income-less PVP grind.
3. The Raider - The hardcore raider. When he's online, he is raiding. Between real life and the rigors of an intense raiding schedule, he has virtually no time to farm for gold. Unfortunately, high end raid encounters demand high repair costs and numberous consumables. When it comes down to skipping raids to farm for gold or just buying it, the latter is often the choice.
#17 Dec 04 2006 at 1:49 PM Rating: Decent
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And as to why people buy gold? I'd say three types of people off the top of my head:
1. The Casual - Either they just started the game or just don't play much. They want the best BoE's but don't want to spend the time to grind for the gold. They just like to hop on and dink around for a little while and don't want to spend their limited time farming when they can have that item now! This person is the most likely waste gold over and over as they buy BoE epics on their road from 1-60, forgetting that low level BoE's are quickly replaced.
2. The PVPer - Caught up in the unrelenting PVP grind, this person needs gold for repairs, pots, and the items they earn. Unfortunately being trapped in a battleground all day leaves them no time to farm. They buy gold to prop up their income-less PVP grind.
3. The Raider - The hardcore raider. When he's online, he is raiding. Between real life and the rigors of an intense raiding schedule, he has virtually no time to farm for gold. Unfortunately, high end raid encounters demand high repair costs and numberous consumables. When it comes down to skipping raids to farm for gold or just buying it, the latter is often the choice.


All three of these can fit under an umbrella description:

1. THE CHEATER. This person seeks an advantage over others without having earned it himbelf. He is so stupid that he has never realized how easy it is to make gold in WoW, and he will never learn. This noobish behavior persists into his gaming personality, since he continuously brags about being a twink (if PvP) or his equipment (if casual) or the great drops he's gotten from raiding (if raider). This is compensation for other inadequacies.

Edited, Dec 4th 2006 1:56pm by ohmikeghod
#18 Dec 04 2006 at 2:42 PM Rating: Decent
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My post was in response to:

Zirrio wrote:
I cant`t understand why people buy gold. For me it`s a part of the game to play well enough on the AH togheter with choosing the right skills for my character and thus earn the cash I need.


I was not justifying any of those positions, simply pointing out that gold buyers are not solely the random noobs snatching up BoE epics off the AH for ridiculous prices. It is surprising (to me at least) the variety of people that buy gold since it is often people who are very experienced at playing the game, yet are just too lazy (or simply unwilling) to farm for gold.

I must admit I'm a touch apathetic since very little of value in WoW is BoE anyway; once you begin raiding, the only difference between the guy who buys gold and the guy who doesn't is one saves an hour or two of farming but just wasted real life money =P
#19 Dec 04 2006 at 3:32 PM Rating: Decent
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I knew a guy when I first started playing my NE Rogue (first character) who i have met in Duskwood or what not. We played alot of the same hours and stuff so we were generally pretty close in lvl and were usually doing all of the same quests. Soo we both get up to 60 at about the same time, he goes and join a hardcore raiding guild and I make an alt druid. By the next week he was linking me all of his might gear (full set minus chest) along with the epic mount and Quel'Serrer (sp?) he had obtained.

Well the day we both hit 60 he had way less gold than i had like less than 100g. So i ask him where he got the sword and the mount if he had been raiding so much to get all those other pieces. Ohh i bought the gold online and then bought the book and the horsey.

Hmm doesn't really seem to fair to me but w/e atleast I feel a sense of accomplishment when i get something ive beenworking for.

But yeah what Noobasaurus said is so very true. There are tons of people that buy gold. Maybe even your guild leader is. Some people are just lazy and would rather spend so RL bucks to get in game cash.
#20 Dec 04 2006 at 10:12 PM Rating: Decent
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the people that buy gold are missing the whole point of the game...
you are supposed to have fun trying to get that gold for that really cool item you want, and have fun getting that gold through q's/farming...
and you will have to perfect your skills because enemy's will become harder to beat/the game will become more complex later on
if you skip that you will lose anyway in pvp because youre not skilled....
#22 Dec 04 2006 at 10:22 PM Rating: Decent
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Making gold in WOW is easy. EQ was tougher. You could make 100plat in a few hours but the decent items for sale were in the tens of thousands.

For WOW, most of the gear comes from drops, rewards. Besides the epic mount and enchants, there isn't really anything else to buy. All you have to do is grind/instance etc.
#23 Dec 05 2006 at 12:46 AM Rating: Decent
I too played FFXI for along time, from March of 2004 up till about 1 month ago.

I too LOL everytime I hear someone complain about making gold in WoW, or WoW's inflation. FFXI doesnt even give out Exp for quests, let alone any reasonable amount of currency.
#24 Dec 05 2006 at 1:31 AM Rating: Decent
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I thought about buying once or twice, after doing too many BGs in a day and seeing every other character in the 20 - 29 range in the best gear, all heavily enchanted. It got frustrating when I'd come near the bottom of the rankings and realize the people below me were the few who didn't have the tricked out gear. It was just as frustrating when I'd come near the top and realize the only reason I did so was because I pushed myself too much, stress-wise. It came down to either buying gold or forgetting the BGs and playing the aspects of the game I knew I enjoyed already. Thankfully, I made the wise choice, manned up, put away the credit card, and now I have a ball without running around WSG being chased by level 25 orc warriors with giant flaming swords.

Instead they chase me in the Stonetalons, but at least it's only one of them.
#25 Dec 05 2006 at 4:38 AM Rating: Decent
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I cant`t understand why people buy gold.


Because they are too immature or impatient or whatever to understand that what you work for is what you cherish and enjoy most. They are the "right now" type of mentality who want everything given to them without work or effort.

Speaking impartially, I can see the lure. As I sit on my level 60 Tauren watching my epic mount cash creep up slowly enough to make me want to tear out my hair (OhMikeGhod's claims of how easy it is to make 6000g a week notwithstanding), I CERTAINLY understand. Or when someone offers something in Trade or on AH that I would love to own and can't afford. But I've never spent a nickel on bought money or items, even in games where doing it is 100% legal, and I never will. And thus every item I own brings me far more pleasure and satisfaction than something acquired with no effort or work.
#26 Dec 05 2006 at 5:39 AM Rating: Good
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I thought about buying once or twice, after doing too many BGs in a day and seeing every other character in the 20 - 29 range in the best gear, all heavily enchanted.


Take note, twinks! Twinks cause gold buying!

True story.
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