Barov PVP quest (Horde)Follow

Hi all

Funny (though seriously annoying) situation happened last night that nearly got me and a big chunk of the guild banned. We were doing the Barvo PVP fight playing horde so we where at Chillwind Camp to kill Barvo after 3 failed pull attempts because of alliance joining in we decided to wipe the camp of all Alliance NPCs and PCs including the flight master. So we send out a shout on guild and now we are 15 strong and holding the camp nicely and wiping alliance all over the place.

After about 10 mins of clearing camp and any Alliance that turn up as raid leader I get a PM from a GM and he tells me there have been reports we have been ganking the area, camping the graveyard (just across the road from the camp) and using evade positions to attack from. I explain to the GM what we are doing, they then go on to say that we have 5 mins to finish the quest and leave the area or we could be suspended for inappropriate behavior.

I ve seen the alliance do this a number of times at the Bulwark (where the alliance Barvo NPC is) or holding Thorium Point or Marshall Refuge. If your in a contested area PVP should be expected and if Blizzard have a quest that forces PVP surely what we where doing was within bounds and we should not have been reported or the report should have not been acted on.

I ve opened a ticket on this I do not expect any answer but just managed to really p1ss me off.

I'm the softest, cuddliest CareBear here and even I think that's silly.

Sure, it might not be "nice" to take out the flightmaster but:

(a) Blizzard made them attackable.

(b) Cutting off lines of support is a classic military tactic.

(c) Blizzard designed that quest.

(d) Ganking/camping is specifically called out as NOT being a reportable offense on PvP servers. And if this is a PvE server, you can only be camped and ganked if you WANT to be.

Well I think if the FM is down people can't fly there?

Also it's easier to kill allies without NPC's wailing on you at the same time.

I think the issue was the evade thing, one of your members was maybe on a bugged location. You should have stood up to the GM, said "look we're not doing anything wrong if you have some proof of someone using an exploit then address them and not our group as a whole."

If that wasn't working ask for a senior GM, it's very clear now that GM's can make mistakes, but this seems over the top.

I have to call shenanigans on this one. If you're on a PvP server or even a PvE with PvP your flag on you should expect to be attacked. I find it difficult to believe that a GM would even respond to a report about "ganking." Maybe they responded because some of your members were on Evade points or rooftops, but they certainly shouldn't have said anything to you because you are the raid leader, they would have addressed those people individually, so yea that's why I call shenanigans on this.

I don't know, when I first started the game I went to Tanaris as a level 22 Gnome Mage (don't ask how I got there...) and there was an Orc hunter that climbed up onto the walls of the city and kept killing me. He was using the wall to evade being attacked by the NPCs. I sent a message complaining to the GM about it because there was no "suitable PvP solution" to someone that is breaking the rules; I received back an e-mail reply (not in game, but out of the game on my hotmail account) that said basically "you are playing on a PvP server and we do not interfere if there is a problem between two factions when there is a PvP solution available to you." In other words if I wanted him to stop it was my responsibility to stop him or get someone else to do it for me. I didn't have a problem with the "PvP solution" but I did have a problem with the fact he was breaking the rules in order to kill me (rooftop camping) but still nothing was done about it.

So from my own personal experience of being on the side of the reporter I can say that Blizzard doesn't appear to just tell people to stop PvPing, they have to be doing something wrong, but even then they probably don't say anything.

But, Blizz likes to KEEP its customers. You might get irritated at being pushed along, but you're not going to quit over. People DO quit over griefing, and Blizz values their $15/mo more than they value your good opinion.