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#1 Nov 28 2006 at 6:03 PM Rating: Good
I am going to be in the market to buy a new video card, and sadly, my knowledge is lacking a bit. I don't really know how to compare cards. I used to think that it was based on the MBs on the card, but I know that is not the case (or at least, it is not now), since some 256mb cards can out perform a bad 512mb card easily.

So, when comparing cards, how do I tell how well a card will perform. I know that PCIx > AGP > PCI (which for right now, I have to go with AGP), but beyond that, I am not sure what specs I am wanting to compare to judge how much better (or worse) a card will run my games (WoW, some FPSs, etc). If anyone could give me a run-down on how to compare them, that would be great! I tried to Google it, but anything that has "compare" and "video card" in it pulls up millions of price comparison sites, which is not what I am looking for. Thanks!
#2 Nov 28 2006 at 6:16 PM Rating: Decent
From my experience an equal pci-e card is a fair bit cheaper than the AGP, maybe it would be more beneficial to get a PCI-E board and a PCI-E card?
#3 Nov 28 2006 at 6:25 PM Rating: Decent
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More pipelines, higher clock speed on the cards ram and GPU are more important then having a lot of graphic ram. (quality over quantity)
#4 Nov 28 2006 at 6:28 PM Rating: Decent
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Your choices would depend on about how much you want to spend on the new video card. I personally prefer Nvidia cards. I have a GF6800gt which I bought about 2 years ago for $300. It runs WoW and CoD2(WWII FPS) fairly well. If you want a AGP card, why not try 7800gs which retails for about $300. It's probably the best AGP card on the market.
#5 Nov 28 2006 at 7:11 PM Rating: Decent
whats better Pci-E or Sli? because i am using Tigerdirect.com to buy myself a new motherboard to get these cards since my motherboard wont accept the card,right now i am playing wow with a AGP card(256).

A Kind of off topic question: what is a better processor..AMD Athlon 64 3700+ OEM Processor
-Processor Speed: 64 3500+ / 2.20GHz
- Cache Size: 128KB L1, 512KB L2, 640KB Total
- Processor Socket: Socket 939

Intel Pentium D 830 3.0GHz Dual-Core Processor
-Processor Speed: 830 / 3.0GHz
- Cache Size: 2MB
- Processor Socket: Socket 775
or what i have now a pentium 4 2.8ht ghz(best info i can give)

note: lol when it comes to motherboards and Processors i am not that good
..prob with computers in general..but learning a bit..and think i should get 1 more giga in ram for? lol have 1 already

Edited, Nov 28th 2006 10:16pm by Arsonite
#6 Nov 28 2006 at 9:27 PM Rating: Decent
Arsonite wrote:
whats better Pci-E or Sli? because i am using Tigerdirect.com to buy myself a new motherboard to get these cards since my motherboard wont accept the card,right now i am playing wow with a AGP card(256).

Apples and oranges. PCIE is a slot on the motherboard. SLI is the ability to have more than one Nvidia card running simultaneously.

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A Kind of off topic question: what is a better processor..AMD Athlon 64 3700+ OEM Processor
-Processor Speed: 64 3500+ / 2.20GHz
- Cache Size: 128KB L1, 512KB L2, 640KB Total
- Processor Socket: Socket 939

Intel Pentium D 830 3.0GHz Dual-Core Processor
-Processor Speed: 830 / 3.0GHz
- Cache Size: 2MB
- Processor Socket: Socket 775
or what i have now a pentium 4 2.8ht ghz(best info i can give)

Apples and oranges. Comparing a dual-processor CPU against a single-processor CPU is like comparing a Harley with a bicycle. You need to compare an AMD dual-processor CPU against the Intel one. Try an AMD 64 FX processor, instead. (AMD wins, but not with the 3700+)
#7 Nov 28 2006 at 11:20 PM Rating: Decent
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With default cooling, someone over-clocked their Core 2 Duo E6300 to outperform the FX62, so at the moment Intel is dominating the market (Even the stock E6300 for $299NZD is outperforming the 5000+ which is $539). But yeah, SLI is when you link two PCIE cards to make them run at the same time, one rendering the top half of your screen and the other rendering the bottom half (in theory). It is possible to SLI both Nvidia and ATI cards.
#8 Nov 29 2006 at 12:47 AM Rating: Good
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Greshark wrote:
With default cooling, someone over-clocked their Core 2 Duo E6300 to outperform the FX62, so at the moment Intel is dominating the market (Even the stock E6300 for $299NZD is outperforming the 5000+ which is $539). But yeah, SLI is when you link two PCIE cards to make them run at the same time, one rendering the top half of your screen and the other rendering the bottom half (in theory). It is possible to SLI both Nvidia and ATI cards.


QFT

To add onto it though

Between the CPUs that the other person asked it is basically an older CPU that isn't the core 2, so for THAT what was said was correct really. Between those two, AMD does win. Overall, for more CPUs outpreforming the competitor, again AMD wins... but in the current gen of CPUs (if you can call it a gen) Intel wins HANDS DOWN with the Core 2 Duo in both price and preformance. I can't wait for AMD to get their hands on the fab process that was used to make the core 2 duo, AMD is going to come back with avengence I bet when they get that.

Also, the ATI "SLI" is actually called crossfire, and is a bit more advanced then the half and half rendering you were talking about. You can set one video card to any number of tasks like just be a physics renderer... think of that physixs card that was supposed to take the strain off your graphics card by rendering all the mini particle effects and such, and make that into a 512 meg powerhouse like a x1900xtx or something high. I'm not sure if the same holds true for the SLI though...

OP, to add onto what was said already about comparing the cards...

Don't be too fooled by the fact that most newer nVidia cards have more pipelines, they are generally a bit slower (when comparing an equal price) then ATIs. They make up for it in other ways though. In general, what I personally look for when choosing between cards (after price) is:

GPU Clock Speed
Memory Clock Speed
Memory Bus
Pipes


in THAT order. If there are different memory sizes available (like say 256 and 512) then I decide if the extra $$$$ is worth spending it. It generally is imo, especially for gaming in general. If you're just mainly going to play WoW though I wouldn't really suggest upping to the higher memory if you already have a (semi) beefy system behind it.
#9 Nov 29 2006 at 2:47 PM Rating: Decent
thanks for the help lol for me to get the new processor i need a new pc in general prob just going for whichever is cheaper lol money is always the factor for most things
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