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Well will we hear back from the OP ? I doubt it
Nope. He took Tsetsuo's link and happily skipped off into the sunset.
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Bottom line is, he is 16 and lives with his parents, therefore, his parents ARE in control.
If you don't like it, move out and play WoW all friggin day long. You are not an adult and until you are, you must abide by your parents rules as long as you live under their roof and they foot the bills for ya big boy! ;O
Edited, Nov 10th 2006 at 8:13am PST by Dothor
If you don't like it, move out and play WoW all friggin day long. You are not an adult and until you are, you must abide by your parents rules as long as you live under their roof and they foot the bills for ya big boy! ;O
Edited, Nov 10th 2006 at 8:13am PST by Dothor
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Nope. He took Tsetsuo's link and happily skipped off into the sunset.
yet the thread doesn't die ...
This thread is forever.
And lauisifer, your parents sound freaky. Are you still with the guy or did you split up in the end? *grabs bowl of popcorn*
And lauisifer, your parents sound freaky. Are you still with the guy or did you split up in the end? *grabs bowl of popcorn*
Please "talk up" if your comprehension white-shifts. I will use simple-happy language-words to help you understand.
I wonder on how many other boards the OP posted his predicament.
::Sidejack::
Mazra, have you seen the Danish film "Brødre"? I have just seen it this past week and it's pretty powerful.
::Sidejack::
Mazra, have you seen the Danish film "Brødre"? I have just seen it this past week and it's pretty powerful.
Sorry to let this post go on so far, I read the first 5 or 6 replies and then just assumed it was bumped to page 2 and died and I haven't checked it since
But to answer a few questions that were asked and a few false assumptions that were made...
1. How many hours a week do you spend on the computer?
Normally no more than an hour and a half on nights that I don't have an extracurricular activity... more on weekends, maybe 7 hours total from friday-sunday night
2. What do you do outside of school/wow
play tennis, 5 and a half hours a week during off-season, 12+ hours a week during the season
ski team
play lacrosse, not right now, but during the summer
hang out with friends
3. what is your gpa?
4 b's 2 a's
4. did you post this topic in other forums?
no.
5. you're wanting us to "beat" your parents
you can infer that, but i really just want the parental controls password cracked
6. are your parents enabling these to limit your time?
yes, i used to get straight a's in grade school, which leads my parents to believe that im getting b's because of the computer, something i didnt use in grade school... there is a corrolation, but it really has nothing to do with WoW
7. is the game yours and do you pay for it?
yes, i bought the game at best buy with money earned from mowing neighbor's lawns, and i use game cards that i buy to pay for the monthly fees
also thanks everyone for the advice about... well life in general... i understand what all of you are saying, but i still plan on removing the parental controls-- i feel i can balance my time out myself and its not something for my parents to decide, regardless of what you all say
this tone seems kind of harsh, but i don't mean it that way- it's just what i'm thinking
also, tsetseuo, thanks for the advice, i think you understand my viewpoint quite well, and i was wondering if there is a program that could just be downloaded that monitors keystrokes, rather than something that plugs in to the computer, i recall using one a while back for something or another but forgot which program it was
But to answer a few questions that were asked and a few false assumptions that were made...
1. How many hours a week do you spend on the computer?
Normally no more than an hour and a half on nights that I don't have an extracurricular activity... more on weekends, maybe 7 hours total from friday-sunday night
2. What do you do outside of school/wow
play tennis, 5 and a half hours a week during off-season, 12+ hours a week during the season
ski team
play lacrosse, not right now, but during the summer
hang out with friends
3. what is your gpa?
4 b's 2 a's
4. did you post this topic in other forums?
no.
5. you're wanting us to "beat" your parents
you can infer that, but i really just want the parental controls password cracked
6. are your parents enabling these to limit your time?
yes, i used to get straight a's in grade school, which leads my parents to believe that im getting b's because of the computer, something i didnt use in grade school... there is a corrolation, but it really has nothing to do with WoW
7. is the game yours and do you pay for it?
yes, i bought the game at best buy with money earned from mowing neighbor's lawns, and i use game cards that i buy to pay for the monthly fees
also thanks everyone for the advice about... well life in general... i understand what all of you are saying, but i still plan on removing the parental controls-- i feel i can balance my time out myself and its not something for my parents to decide, regardless of what you all say
this tone seems kind of harsh, but i don't mean it that way- it's just what i'm thinking
also, tsetseuo, thanks for the advice, i think you understand my viewpoint quite well, and i was wondering if there is a program that could just be downloaded that monitors keystrokes, rather than something that plugs in to the computer, i recall using one a while back for something or another but forgot which program it was
Just when you thought it was dead!
I'm sorry dude, but "beat your parents" and "beat the parental controls" are one and the same. While you may be disappointed or angry over the fact that nobody will help you get around the system, the truth is that if you DID get around your parental controls, your parents WOULD find out (parents ALWAYS find out), and then the game and your playtime wouldn't be just limited, they'd be extinct.
Be glad that your parents are more moderate than others, who have been known to outright pull the plug completely at the slightest slip of a grade.
In the meantime, don't expect us to help you break the rules, because there's a rather large number of people on this forum who, being both gamers and parents, can see things from both sides, and may actually agree with your parents actions... ;)
austinlax wrote:
5. you're wanting us to "beat" your parents
you can infer that, but i really just want the parental controls password cracked
you can infer that, but i really just want the parental controls password cracked
I'm sorry dude, but "beat your parents" and "beat the parental controls" are one and the same. While you may be disappointed or angry over the fact that nobody will help you get around the system, the truth is that if you DID get around your parental controls, your parents WOULD find out (parents ALWAYS find out), and then the game and your playtime wouldn't be just limited, they'd be extinct.
Be glad that your parents are more moderate than others, who have been known to outright pull the plug completely at the slightest slip of a grade.
In the meantime, don't expect us to help you break the rules, because there's a rather large number of people on this forum who, being both gamers and parents, can see things from both sides, and may actually agree with your parents actions... ;)
I'm no longer really trying to get help on this thread anymore-- there are easier ways to get answers. a friend introduced me to google.com, it's a great site. Im just getting back to you guys on what you had posted, not necessarily what I had originally posted.
and although I appreciate the advice, I already know that they can find out and don't really need insight on that aspect of my original situation becauseI can take precautions to avoid that or prepare myself to take the beating in a fashionable manner
I'm just answering any questions that rose up in this post now, my original dilemma is already solved.
I'm just answering any questions that rose up in this post now, my original dilemma is already solved.
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also, tsetseuo, thanks for the advice, i think you understand my viewpoint quite well, and i was wondering if there is a program that could just be downloaded that monitors keystrokes, rather than something that plugs in to the computer, i recall using one a while back for something or another but forgot which program it was
hehe, never thought we'd hear back. *cough* bolded for emphasis *cough*
So you say "the situation was resolved" but what does that mean? you get your account back?
IF, you do by chance come back and read this forum.....
The youth of today are impressionable, google may lead you to many things that fascinate you about your goals of thwarting your parents....just make a note, most of them are ILLEGAL.
Granted the cops may not come barging in your door cause you downloaded a couple of programs from a rogue (note the WoW toon class) site but, you may decide to get a little experimental in the future with said programs and I'd strongly advise against it.
The youth of today are impressionable, google may lead you to many things that fascinate you about your goals of thwarting your parents....just make a note, most of them are ILLEGAL.
Granted the cops may not come barging in your door cause you downloaded a couple of programs from a rogue (note the WoW toon class) site but, you may decide to get a little experimental in the future with said programs and I'd strongly advise against it.
I don't know what led your parents to take the drastic steps of having the WoW account you play put in their name, so I'll refrain from making judgements about whether they were justified in making the switch.
One thing I can tell you from your story is that if you manage to get a keylogger and get your password back, that will probably be the quickest way to get your account cancelled and WoW uninstalled on the computers in your house. They went to quite a bit of trouble to monitor your play, so I don't think it will be a reach for them to take this step if you show that your desire for this game exceeds your respect for your parents.
As a father I can tell you there is only thing that would work with me to get the account back under your control. You must build trust with your parents. They took this step, have you sat down with them and calmly discussed their reasons and what might put you back in their good graces? See if you can get them to agree to some kind of plan that would show you are managing your school, work, and social activities. You need to prove to them that you can manage your WoW time and the rest of your life successfully.
Any other type of action is just asking for trouble and making it far less likely that they will allow you to have "ultimate control over" your life.
Edited, Nov 30th 2006 1:04pm by thailfi
One thing I can tell you from your story is that if you manage to get a keylogger and get your password back, that will probably be the quickest way to get your account cancelled and WoW uninstalled on the computers in your house. They went to quite a bit of trouble to monitor your play, so I don't think it will be a reach for them to take this step if you show that your desire for this game exceeds your respect for your parents.
As a father I can tell you there is only thing that would work with me to get the account back under your control. You must build trust with your parents. They took this step, have you sat down with them and calmly discussed their reasons and what might put you back in their good graces? See if you can get them to agree to some kind of plan that would show you are managing your school, work, and social activities. You need to prove to them that you can manage your WoW time and the rest of your life successfully.
Any other type of action is just asking for trouble and making it far less likely that they will allow you to have "ultimate control over" your life.
Edited, Nov 30th 2006 1:04pm by thailfi
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and although I appreciate the advice, I already know that they can find out and don't really need insight on that aspect of my original situation becauseI can take precautions to avoid that or prepare myself to take the beating in a fashionable manner
Among my many bad habits, I am paid to teach ethics and do it in public. I would suggest that you do need insight on "that aspect of [your] original situation." WoW is unlikely to be the most private thing you will ever want to put on your computer. Forget all the talk about law or the rights of parents vs. the rights of their children as they approach majority. Instead, think about it as an ethics issue. Ethics fill in the blank spaces where law is unclear, they provide a kind of invisible line or unspoken truce in many situations. Once that line is crossed, or truce broken, it is hard to restore the status quo.
In terms relevant to your situation -- if you go using things like key loggers against your parents, you invite them to ratchet things up. The next thing you know they wonder what *else* you have on your computer. I recall a couple of posters here have worked in info management. You might post back to them and find out just how invasive someone can be if they can 1) directly access your computer, and 2) are using default Windows settings. Take a moment and imagine them reading every email you get, checking out every site you surf, checking your search requests. When they do, and I would say that if you use a key logger it is rather likely that they will, you are the one who broke truce first. You will be trying to argue your rights from a position of rather extreme weakness.
Note -- Although you consider your parents to have broken truce first by (in your view) ninja-ing your account, so far they haven't moved to their own key loggers and such. Your choices can move them into a competition that you are unlikely to win. It sounds like you've already crossed the line, but you can mitigate the damage by not using the information you've gathered to make more of a confrontation.
By the way, do remember that the confrontation won't end with WoW or your computer. You are going to need things like parental consent forms for another couple of years. Imagine those forms and waivers not getting signed, you'll still get into college without ski team or the other sports, you just won't have as much fun getting there.
if you really want to prove to your parents you are mature enough to play the game responsibly and manage your time, hacking into your account, using a keylogger, and decieving your trust is just about the worst way to do this. use your head a little, come on.
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[/quote]if you really want to prove to your parents you are mature enough to play the game responsibly and manage your time, hacking into your account, using a keylogger, and decieving your trust is just about the worst way to do this. use your head a little, come on.[quote]
I think I know the situation a little better than you. I am using my head- you have no idea what's going on on my side of the story.
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man, that is so cheap, my dad and mom think i play too much wow....but he pays for it lol, its my brothers game.
But yes it IS your own life, but try not to go spaz and get REALLY angry and mum and dad ok? lol
i mean, if you limit your time, which u said u do they Should let you play WoW more often...that is really gay.
Yeh if they are incharge of YOUR account they will probaly end up cancelling it but i doubt it. but just keep in mind they love you always no matter what =)
But yes it IS your own life, but try not to go spaz and get REALLY angry and mum and dad ok? lol
i mean, if you limit your time, which u said u do they Should let you play WoW more often...that is really gay.
Yeh if they are incharge of YOUR account they will probaly end up cancelling it but i doubt it. but just keep in mind they love you always no matter what =)
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some advice
get a key recorder, or keylogger
http://www.kmint21.com/keylogger/index-nl.html
my advice is try itself keep control concerning play expensive.
It seems me clear that that boy wants check something and in 1 or other manner he succeeds nevertheless go gamen or you want now or not. maby not with wow but then with a another game this person must be own responsibilety take as long as he this not realises.he is wont able stop with game
get a key recorder, or keylogger
http://www.kmint21.com/keylogger/index-nl.html
my advice is try itself keep control concerning play expensive.
It seems me clear that that boy wants check something and in 1 or other manner he succeeds nevertheless go gamen or you want now or not. maby not with wow but then with a another game this person must be own responsibilety take as long as he this not realises.he is wont able stop with game
In all honesty, as everyone else has said, you are a minor, you are filed as a dependent, and you do not live on your own. You are still dependent on your parents for all of your basic needs. Saying that you don't think them limiting your WoW time is right and not saying how much you play or how well you do in school is forcing a bias on your statement.
If your parents are afraid that you are spending too little time socializing in real life, or that your grades are slipping be cause of WoW, those are real concerns. If your parents think you are playing too much because you spend 40+ hours on a week, that is also valid concern for them, because, unless I am misunderstood, they do not play the game. Quite frankly the fact that they went through the trouble to get in contact with Blizzard and prove that you are a minor rather than simply deleting the game AND your account means that they do respect your playing WoW, they just want you to limit your time on it.
If you get your account back the 'right way,' I would suggest trying to make a reasonable and somewhat eloquent argument supporting your position. Even if they don't agree with you, if you want to prove remain calm and accept their decision and try to refute it again later. Trying to hack the parental controls is not a good way to prove that you are mature or responsible and may even encourage them to revoke any computer privilege you have.
In short, take the high road and act mature if you wanted to be treated like an adult. Hacking the parental controls with a key logger is a certainly a good way to prove you are still a child.
If your parents are afraid that you are spending too little time socializing in real life, or that your grades are slipping be cause of WoW, those are real concerns. If your parents think you are playing too much because you spend 40+ hours on a week, that is also valid concern for them, because, unless I am misunderstood, they do not play the game. Quite frankly the fact that they went through the trouble to get in contact with Blizzard and prove that you are a minor rather than simply deleting the game AND your account means that they do respect your playing WoW, they just want you to limit your time on it.
If you get your account back the 'right way,' I would suggest trying to make a reasonable and somewhat eloquent argument supporting your position. Even if they don't agree with you, if you want to prove remain calm and accept their decision and try to refute it again later. Trying to hack the parental controls is not a good way to prove that you are mature or responsible and may even encourage them to revoke any computer privilege you have.
In short, take the high road and act mature if you wanted to be treated like an adult. Hacking the parental controls with a key logger is a certainly a good way to prove you are still a child.
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