No nude patch for 1.11 -sniff-Follow

Manhunt? Last I heard it was a **** poor game nobody bought and all the violence in the world couldn't save it.

As for the nude patch, ah, whatever floats your boat I say.

Edited, Jun 22nd 2006 at 2:44pm EDT by Yunoh

Vore? Psh, that's child's play compared to some stuff I've seen. *grin*

I was once a human being, anime was my undoing!

This thread got totaly derailed.

double post, darn mouse

Edited, Jun 22nd 2006 at 3:02pm EDT by xyriach

I'm sorry to interrupt your commentary on art and literature, but fact is this thread was started by Techaman so this is an appropriate place to respond to his question. I also chose this thread to lengthen with this response, rather than the other similar thread also just started recently, since this one was posted first.

Techaman: Yes, I have things working in 1.11. I look forward to posting sometime soon to address the changes. Soon meaning at least several hours from now, and possibly a number of days from now (as I'm involved in another project, one of great importance that is expected to possibly be rather chaotic), but I most certainly expect it will be within a week. I'll try to get this done later today, but no promises.

Krylanna: The difference between GTA's Hot Coffee and Oblivion, and this, is that the content was put in the game by the developers in those games. Hot Coffee simply unlocked the hidden content, and I've found http://www.neoseeker.com/news/story/5692/ says "the ESRB cites hidden content in Oblivion as the reason for their latest move." In contrast, the way users have updated WoW is that the nudity was added by fans, so Blizzard didn't make the nudity and, to the best of our knowledge, no parent or child is buying nudity, hidden or otherwise, when they are buying WoW from a local department/electronics store. Therefore, it's not likely that ESRB would have a reason to be modifying the game's rating based on nudity added from a 3rd party source.

Duke Chubbycox: You're right that the conversations were miserable. I believe some of the problem is that people didn't want the topic discussed on Alla's general forums. Rightly or wrongly, due to various factors it seems the best thing would be for the conversation to move elsewhere. The problem is, no other home for such conversation had been previously established. I intend to see what I can do to remedy that this time 'round.

Others: I have found additional resources (forums, submissions) that weren't pointed to on Alla. If there is a desire to have such resources linked to so that more people can find the resources, or a desire to have such resources not linked to so that people aren't directed towards a personal site, please let me know. Otherwise, without input, I'll likely just link to whomever I feel like it.
Also, the free mirrors that I spent days looking for have shown they are not a great resource for future use, and that may in fact hinder my ability to spread my latest work (after I test it just a bit further) without crippling it. If anyone has some space and bandwidth that can, without violating any EULA's, hold this content, let me know. I'd prefer that my newest work not remain privately my own just because of a lack of a good way to distribute it.

I likes ya too.

Perhaps I should have chosen my words better. Bump good up to great.

Writing a best seller usually involves using an open style that doesn't shut everyone out, and then picking a generic conflict or situation about which many people have thought.

The Da Vinci Code has scandalous materiel, the possibility that a primary religious figure isn't all that religious, and is written in a thriller style. I don't see that as hard to do.

I see a great work as one that is like a cake. There are several layers, plot, mood, meaning, characters, style, etc. and eahc of them is usually all the work of a good novel in itself.

Well I wasn't asking you to justify anything. What I wanted, and maybe carried out poorly, was for you to make the arguement you were making but for soemthing you didn't already approve of.

I wanted to irradicate belief bias, because that's the key problem in arguements like these. I should have done better.

They can make that mistake, so long as I can make the mistake that the laws protecting them from violent retaliation are only a "suggestionn."

Trickybeck you're arguing an impasse. You cannot argue for their right to be allowed to ask for the mods while arguing against my right to say they shouldn't. Or you could view it as you telling me that I cannot tell people what they cannot do. I do not think you have any legal moves here.

Words affect actions, otherwise why speak?

I have the possibility of achieving something either by making them feel so shunned that they simply leave. Or I might stifle the thread and so fewer people get word of the new mod. I'm not trying to convert them here so I don't need their cooperation to achieve anything; I'm using verbal force.

Edited, Jun 22nd 2006 at 6:32pm EDT by Allegory

Edited, Jun 22nd 2006 at 6:33pm EDT by Allegory

KTurner that's great. Please draw more, I need more.
PMd you my credit card info and mailing address, send asap please.

If you want me to be, I'm up for roleplay.

My thoughts.

Yeah there is no denying that it is a little weird. Honestly though, anyone who watches cartoon ****, especially a nude patch on WOW is a little weird. That is why Japanese **** is called Hentai.Hentai translates into Pervert in English.

That's the implication I got out of it. I suppose I misunderstood you then.

Well we could have and entirely separate discussion on whether or not it is actually harming people, but I won't go there. Since this question is essentially the same as why it affects me I'll answer both now.

It's icky, it's annoying, I am a little bored, it makes room for interesting tangents like my discussion with Sioux, I get to have a little fun with those rushing to their defense, it contributes nothing to the forum community, I'm practicing typing using a dvorak setup to no satisfaction, it might be considered to violate the forum policies agaisnt pornography, it's socially unacceptable, and it kind of goes a little against my own personal views on sexuality.

A myriad of reasons.

And the above are the direct reasons. There's all sorts of possibilities like the one you mentioned. Maybe I'll be in a instance with a healer who doesn't pay attention to my hp because he's looking at my shaggy hide. Maybe I'll be forced to encounter art that has been influenced by the ideas here and becomes a horrible phenomenom. Maybe someone, in a quest to perfect the nudie patch will engender nuclear war. Though none of these really matter.

Edited, Jun 22nd 2006 at 10:19pm EDT by Allegory