Something I wanted to bring up was the ability hunter's get called Hunter's Mark.
Yesterday I was in a low level area and I bumped into a horde party of level 13-15's I started making joke with them and dancing etc. When all of a sudden I see a level 57 shaman so I hit stealth and just before I go into stealth the level 13 hunter drops the mark on me lighting me up like a moving duck at the fun fair.
I don’t think I need to explain why that needs nerfing.
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Posted: Jun 27 2005 at 5:10 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) well if the shaman had any brains he wouldnt lose to you even if he let you get off ambush/cs
That's not the point.
Why is a low level char able to land any form of spell ability on a lvl 60 we should have some form of resist
Why is a low level char able to land any form of spell ability on a lvl 60 we should have some form of resist
What you are asking for is an uncouterable stealth. Now THAT would be overpowered.
Edited, Mon Jun 27 06:56:50 2005 by SuperNull
Edited, Mon Jun 27 06:56:50 2005 by SuperNull
Low level mages can knock you out of stealth with AE/FN even if you resist.
And a low lvl's DoT tends to stick more then not.
And why is this a problem? If you make low lvl's completly useless against high levels then itll be lvl 60's only raiding.
And if rogues cant be detected in any way bij low lvl's it would give rogues way too much incentive to gank low levels.
Edited, Mon Jun 27 07:08:48 2005 by Sjans
And a low lvl's DoT tends to stick more then not.
And why is this a problem? If you make low lvl's completly useless against high levels then itll be lvl 60's only raiding.
And if rogues cant be detected in any way bij low lvl's it would give rogues way too much incentive to gank low levels.
Edited, Mon Jun 27 07:08:48 2005 by Sjans
no not uncounterable just some degree of limitation to that ability i mean suppose 30 level 10's went to ss along with all the other pvp ppl and droped hunters mark on evry rogue they saw would you not say that that would be overpowered.
Also we dont have uncounterable stealth mages can nova us, aoe us, theres flare, warlocks can aoe us, humans have detect stealth ability etc etc.
Also we dont have uncounterable stealth mages can nova us, aoe us, theres flare, warlocks can aoe us, humans have detect stealth ability etc etc.
yes a low level mage could knock me out of stealth but i have a way to counter it i use vanish.
a hunter can put me out of stealt action for 2 mins which i cannot personaly counter and to make matters worse hunters can do this to me from newbie levels. I just feel maybe there sould be a 25 level limit on that ability
a hunter can put me out of stealt action for 2 mins which i cannot personaly counter and to make matters worse hunters can do this to me from newbie levels. I just feel maybe there sould be a 25 level limit on that ability
You argument is valid.
Stating that anyone who KNOWS you are there sould be able to blow your cover is a valid argument too.
Let's not encourage people even MORE to roll a rogue.
Half my server is one already.
Stating that anyone who KNOWS you are there sould be able to blow your cover is a valid argument too.
Let's not encourage people even MORE to roll a rogue.
Half my server is one already.
Hunter's Mark only makes you visible to the hunter who casts it, and you can vanish from a Hunter's Mark.
This is why I don't play PVP servers... :\
hunters have track player to find stealth people, (blizz need to stop that picking up players tbh) i find hunters mark annoying is the fack u got soem annoying red arrow over ur head for 2 minutes
Let's not and say we didn't. -_-
Just because an ability *gasp* countered an equally powerful ability you used doesn't mean it needs nerfing.
Just because an ability *gasp* countered an equally powerful ability you used doesn't mean it needs nerfing.
delandanda wrote:
hunters have track player to find stealth people, (blizz need to stop that picking up players tbh) i find hunters mark annoying is the fack u got soem annoying red arrow over ur head for 2 minutes
Nerf spelling and grammar!!!
Nevermind, you have that covered.
I thought track humanoids doesn't work on stealthers if you can't see them?
Just as an aside to the matter, Hunters mark is magic based and can be dispelled. Therefore find your self an alchemist and pick up some purification potions or restorative elixirs and keep a few on you. You get hit with hunters mark, pop a potion and stealth away.
That’s what I’m going to have to do grab potions to cure it
In response to the other comment:
Yes you can vanish but I don't know the affect to the outside eye as I'm looking through my rogues, but I was under the impression that if a mark was cast on you would be more visible to others your level.
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Hunter's Mark only makes you visible to the hunter who casts it, and you can vanish from a Hunter's Mark.
Yes you can vanish but I don't know the affect to the outside eye as I'm looking through my rogues, but I was under the impression that if a mark was cast on you would be more visible to others your level.
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I thought track humanoids doesn't work on stealthers if you can't see them?
I presume you are talking about Track Hidden, which is very useful for hunters in mass PvP.
As far as I can tell, track hidden does 3 things:
~ It increases your effective level by a few levels when seeing sleathed pcs/mobs.
~ You hear the "whoosh" (or whatever it is) noise of the sleathed pc way more often. When this happens, you can spin around and usually see them for a second.
~ Simultaneous with the whoosh, you'll see a red dot on your mini-map briefly.
So, when this happens, I drop a trap or shoot off a flare. It's fairly effective in rooting out rogues in mass pvp.
As for Hunter's Mark, they should probably make it drop faster vs pc targets, perhaps based on level. Then a low level hunter's HM against a high level opponent wouldn't last the full 2 minutes.
I cant believe what you are proposing...Rogues "per se" are somewhat "overpowered" and now you ask to nerf other classes abilities to just have more advantages over them...
Rogues are known for being the best ganking class...they are always ambushing, killing and doing everything in their power to kill people in the game. That's fine by me...after all that is their purpose, but i have seen rogues ambushed in Menethil harbor, at the docks, killing every level at the very same moment they set foot on the docks after a boat ride or while they wait for a ride....and i am talking level 60 rogues ambushing levels 20-30, etc....
Why? Dunno, but that is why everybody hates rogues.
Low levels should have something to counterattack those abilities.
Now...you mad because you were marked by a low level hunter...
Let me ask you this: What the hell were you doing with a bunch of horde low levels? Trying to convert them into alliance?? ha ha ha...Come on!! WE ARE AT WAR!!...
They didnt attack you before because they knew they had no chance to kill you, but at the moment they had the Shaman's support they started their attack!!
IMO the fault is yours.
Rogues are known for being the best ganking class...they are always ambushing, killing and doing everything in their power to kill people in the game. That's fine by me...after all that is their purpose, but i have seen rogues ambushed in Menethil harbor, at the docks, killing every level at the very same moment they set foot on the docks after a boat ride or while they wait for a ride....and i am talking level 60 rogues ambushing levels 20-30, etc....
Why? Dunno, but that is why everybody hates rogues.
Low levels should have something to counterattack those abilities.
Now...you mad because you were marked by a low level hunter...
Let me ask you this: What the hell were you doing with a bunch of horde low levels? Trying to convert them into alliance?? ha ha ha...Come on!! WE ARE AT WAR!!...
They didnt attack you before because they knew they had no chance to kill you, but at the moment they had the Shaman's support they started their attack!!
IMO the fault is yours.
This reminds me of the time when I was in a group about to do RFK.
We were waiting for the last guy to come from the XRs so we were dueling with eachother just ******* around. I went to fight the rogue i was with and he goes
"Yo leave the group so i can stealth"
I was like "why would I want to give you your cheap advantage"
Regardless he left the party, stealhed, and kicked me ***.
We were waiting for the last guy to come from the XRs so we were dueling with eachother just ******* around. I went to fight the rogue i was with and he goes
"Yo leave the group so i can stealth"
I was like "why would I want to give you your cheap advantage"
Regardless he left the party, stealhed, and kicked me ***.
Caydiem: "Hunter's Mark is working as intended"
I think this has come off topic what i was trying to say was that a level 4 should not be able to land any spell/ability on a level 60 im not saying nerf it as in reduce the timer etc. what i am saying is put a level limit on it i.e. a 30 level limit.
Not classes one ability on one class.
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I cant believe what you are proposing...Rogues "per se" are somewhat "overpowered" and now you ask to nerf other classes abilities to just have more advantages over them...
Not classes one ability on one class.
Hunter's Mark is fine the way it is.
So a level 13 is able to actually land a spell on a level 57, nice to know that regardless of extreme levels, every once in awhile a spell sticks.
I don't think that Hunter's Mark is an irressitable ability, I think that this one time, you were just unlucky and it stuck.
I have had my Polymorph stick on level 60 guys (I was 21st at the time), but it was rare.
So a level 13 is able to actually land a spell on a level 57, nice to know that regardless of extreme levels, every once in awhile a spell sticks.
I don't think that Hunter's Mark is an irressitable ability, I think that this one time, you were just unlucky and it stuck.
I have had my Polymorph stick on level 60 guys (I was 21st at the time), but it was rare.
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Hunter's Mark can not be resisted. Kill lowbie hunters on sight.
Also, you can't vanish with the mark on you. It prevents stealthing of any kind. Always bring dispel potions.
And don't whine about this, it's pathetic.
Also, you can't vanish with the mark on you. It prevents stealthing of any kind. Always bring dispel potions.
And don't whine about this, it's pathetic.
I trust Blizzard’s ability to balance the classes. And believe me, I’ve played a lot of MMORPGs and I’ve never been able to say that about other gaming companies. Players are “blinded†by their own prejudices and by their inability to view the overall game. Blizzard has tools which allow them to monitor more than just one rogue and one hunter. They are in a much better position to determine what abilities are or are not balanced.
Rogues are the only class a hunter has advantages against. Please don't take that from us.
(Although I really think this is a joke post. It can't be serious, calling for a hunter nerf :))
(Although I really think this is a joke post. It can't be serious, calling for a hunter nerf :))
Waaaaaa, sound like somebody got spanked and cant come to terms with it. it is this simple, OP got caught with his pants down, and now rather than admiting a mistake, He wants the game changed so that Life is eazyer for them, sheesh. I have no respcet for thish type of Nerf x becaus it was used agains me.
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