:D no more hunter geting jumped/droped post :D
i'm sorry :D you are right :D i am wrong :D
oh to the poster one up from me.
use gun... gun is better... there are not that many bow out there and enginers can make good guns
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...the only thing you could possibly be telling him he didnt know what worked was that you in fact COULD have more than one tracking up.
Only possible solution eh? So you're saying that, by the power of inferrence, I was suggesting that you could have more than one tracking instance up at any given time and that it is the only POSSIBLE solution? Really? Now see that's amazing. I as an English teacher find that EXTREMELY difficult to digest. Not only grammatically but logically.
See, here I thought it was the druid Beast/Humanoid error, the druid stealth error, the complete inane purpose of having humanoid tracking up for pvp OR quite POSSIBLY the fact that I never once inferred to any other form of tracking needed in a pvp environ. These are all things that any Hunter post 24 knows. Isn't it weird how that works? Wow... and here you're saying there's only one POSSIBLE solution. Now that's one for the record books. I really do need to take a screenie of this one. It's a rich one.
One word: pwnd.
Have a good evening. ; )
Edited, Mon Nov 22 02:11:29 2004 by ForgetfulCutthroat
Kinda odd how the usefulness of humanoid tracking in PvP or using any other tracking besides track hidden has nothing to do with how tracking "works".
Expecially since a few posts above this another hunter validated the use of track humanoids in a contested territor...
Your personal opinion has no effect on tracking mechanics.
Expecially since a few posts above this another hunter validated the use of track humanoids in a contested territor...
Your personal opinion has no effect on tracking mechanics.
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to the person who replied to me just because you can get guns easier doesnt make them beeter, overall a same elvel bow will have a alot high DPS then a gun will and ammo too.
:D
if you like bow better :D use it :D
but when you have enginer you can make better gun, add scope ( you can oddly add this to bow) and make bullets...
sure makeing bow will come out :D and it will be diffrent story :D
but over all i used gun since it was easy to get one...
i would like to have both gun and bow skill up but it's pain to have both arrow and bullets...
and in dps for the range weapons? ...there is just lack of range weapon now.
that is all...
soon or later there will be more of a range on range weapon :D when that happens :D sure :D oh and it will happen
but over all gun is better.
it;s just not me that think that most hunter will use guns
if you like bow better :D use it :D
but when you have enginer you can make better gun, add scope ( you can oddly add this to bow) and make bullets...
sure makeing bow will come out :D and it will be diffrent story :D
but over all i used gun since it was easy to get one...
i would like to have both gun and bow skill up but it's pain to have both arrow and bullets...
and in dps for the range weapons? ...there is just lack of range weapon now.
that is all...
soon or later there will be more of a range on range weapon :D when that happens :D sure :D oh and it will happen
but over all gun is better.
it;s just not me that think that most hunter will use guns
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i a not going to deney most hunters in the OB used guns, but that is because you start out with one, unless your a nightelve i believe, you have to train in it. i am not trying to be mean or anything but vendors i saw had bows price way high compared to guns and from what i saw the dps sometimes was 2 times as good as the gun at the level.
At the moment there is not an ability to create bows or arrows, something I hope is addressed in the retail version.
But as it stands (bad pun):
15th level ranged weapons available:
Bow:
Fine Longbow
Lvl:14 DPS:7.4 SPEED:2.70
Arrows:
Sharp Arrow
10 0.00 (adds 3.5 DPS)
Gun:
Privateer Musket
LvL:15 DPS:7.8 Speed:2.30
Bullets:
Crafted Heavy Shot
15 0.00 (adds 5.0 DPS)
30th Level ranged weapons available:
Bows:
Long Redwood Bow
LvL:30 DPS:14.3 Speed:2.80
Arrows:
Razor Arrow
Lvl:25 0.00 (adds 7.5 DPS)
Guns:
Glass Shooter
LvL:30 DPS:17.9 Speed:2.90
Bullets:
Exploding Shot
Lvl:26 0.00 (adds 10.0 DPS)
Seems to me guns kinda come out top still.
Edited, Mon Nov 22 02:37:58 2004 by StandsInShadow
But as it stands (bad pun):
15th level ranged weapons available:
Bow:
Fine Longbow
Lvl:14 DPS:7.4 SPEED:2.70
Arrows:
Sharp Arrow
10 0.00 (adds 3.5 DPS)
Gun:
Privateer Musket
LvL:15 DPS:7.8 Speed:2.30
Bullets:
Crafted Heavy Shot
15 0.00 (adds 5.0 DPS)
30th Level ranged weapons available:
Bows:
Long Redwood Bow
LvL:30 DPS:14.3 Speed:2.80
Arrows:
Razor Arrow
Lvl:25 0.00 (adds 7.5 DPS)
Guns:
Glass Shooter
LvL:30 DPS:17.9 Speed:2.90
Bullets:
Exploding Shot
Lvl:26 0.00 (adds 10.0 DPS)
Seems to me guns kinda come out top still.
Edited, Mon Nov 22 02:37:58 2004 by StandsInShadow
nice
it would be nice to make more range weapon... but for now it's
gun > bow
it would be nice to make more range weapon... but for now it's
gun > bow
Scholar
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WAIT!? NE cant use guns?? When guns are available to NE's will there be a weapon trainer near for them?
24 posts
your compareing rares to non rares, that is not a fair comparisson.. to make a fair compairssion look at the starting level gun and bow. night evle gets the bow starting off with a 3.8 dps, starting gun is 2.2. and they are both starting weapons, how is the gun doing more dps then ?
NE's can use guns, they just have to train in it at IF (IronForge).
NEs can use guns after a patch a while ago. You simply must train them in Ironforge i believe.
Darn you stands, darn you! /shakes fist
24 posts
starting Ne hunter with bow does more damage then a tauren with a gun at same level both with starting weapons compareing the dps of weapons
ne get gun from ironforge trainer
very nice to have
it's not compareing rare to non rares...
and even just looking at the ammo you can see what will dom more damage...
and starting weapon suck... you will use it for few level and get new one.
use what ever you want to use. bow or gun. no biggy but right now gun does more damage (more pds) but i'm sure more range weapon will come out.
so just use bow
very nice to have
your compareing rares to non rares, that is not a fair comparisson.. to make a fair compairssion look at the starting level gun and bow. night evle gets the bow starting off with a 3.8 dps, starting gun is 2.2. and they are both starting weapons, how is the gun doing more dps then ?
it's not compareing rare to non rares...
and even just looking at the ammo you can see what will dom more damage...
and starting weapon suck... you will use it for few level and get new one.
use what ever you want to use. bow or gun. no biggy but right now gun does more damage (more pds) but i'm sure more range weapon will come out.
so just use bow
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your compareing rares to non rares, that is not a fair comparisson.. to make a fair compairssion look at the starting level gun and bow. night evle gets the bow starting off with a 3.8 dps, starting gun is 2.2. and they are both starting weapons, how is the gun doing more dps then ?
Actually I was comparing the best weapons available at those levels.
Comparing starting weapons is kinda silly....
24 posts
yes it seems that not all range weapons are up yet, but i belive to be a effective hunter you got to use both guns and bows. Just be trained in bth and figure out of the tiems or weapons you have or can buy which will have the higher dps to you at your level
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Expecially since a few posts above this another hunter validated the use of track humanoids in a contested territor...
I didn't even bother touching that because of one reason, tracking does not extend further then visual draw distance. It just doesn't. Not even at the lowest possible graphical settings.
Tracking has a range limit just like everything else and I'm sorry to say that it's no where near the range for graphical draw. Unless he's talking about cover and concealment in which case, sure! Go right ahead. If you're in a high flora, mountainous/hilly zone go right ahead. I won't, not by a long shot.
Why? Because in zones like that anyone, whether friend or foe sticks out like a sore thumb when running along. And since I'm sitting stationary fighting a mob, and have absolutely no need to be watching my pet go through it's fighting animation nor do I need to be directly watching the target to shoot it... I'm going to be looking around keeping an eye out.
Why? Because that's what you do in a PvP zone. If you don't look around, you're a moron. You're able to survive in pvp without any tracking in any other class why not in the Hunter class? It's not HARD. Rogues, Shamans, Warriors, Priests, Paladins, Warlocks, Mages and even low level Druids can... so can a Hunter.
The only tracking which you get as a Hunter which is absolutely invaluable is tracking hidden. Plain and simple. So if a Hunter wants to keep up another tracking feel free. But you're gimping yourself in the end.
Note: This is, and has always been, in refference to contested/enemy territory, not safe zone hunting.
Edited, Mon Nov 22 02:46:35 2004 by ForgetfulCutthroat
with any other weapon i would strongly agree but... with guna d bow... it's pain to have both skill up -_-;;
1) ammo: gun and arrow bag is diffrent... pain to have 2 ammobag
2) no one buys ammo, no npc... so no way to get rid of it but to use it all or drop
3) i'm sure there are few reson there but you can think of it then put it up :D
i would love to have both gun and bow :D
if you can do it with out lack of space. it;s nice to have
1) ammo: gun and arrow bag is diffrent... pain to have 2 ammobag
2) no one buys ammo, no npc... so no way to get rid of it but to use it all or drop
3) i'm sure there are few reson there but you can think of it then put it up :D
i would love to have both gun and bow :D
if you can do it with out lack of space. it;s nice to have
24 posts
this is very true if you carry both you need 2 ammo pouches means less drops for you to carry ad means you are weak in one field or th other as supposed to just focusing on one aera.
Well if you have to carry both at the same time I would suggest you don't use quivers, bags its a 10% speed loss or bring one bag. I tried all the races and classes in beta to only 10 (I have a job and a life unfortunatly). I did get a NE hunter to 16 sorry I don't remember all the names.:( I had daggers,swords one and two handed,axes, and unarmed) all within 3 pionts of my lvl max without much trouble. you gain a piont a hit upto within 10 pionts of your max even when they are 3-4 levels lower than you. that way you don't have to use your pet and use a weaker damage weapon so it takes more hits. I would try the same thing with guns and bows(weak pet that one you have just for bite, and a weak bow/gun teach it growl). Just a thought, never tried it myself didn't care for a gun for my NE.
Heh, there is a good debate here!
So from what I have see, the hunter is e most suitable class for me.
Thanks to all the posters.
So from what I have see, the hunter is e most suitable class for me.
Thanks to all the posters.
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