Well, I know alot of people are all for the RP servers, hoping to avoid the childish names, leet speak, and overall a better community.
What I found was the worst of the worst as far as "whining" goes. It started with the "non-RP's" harassing the RP's... ok, that is fair game. Report it and move on....
Once those unruly types were gone, the RP'ers whined at each other as to what constituted "RP"! "That is not RP!" "RP means I can roleplay however I want!"
The "pwnage" discussions and "n00b" name calling didn't hold a candle to this gawd awful cry fest. Worst thing is, I was hoping for a calm, mature community!
After going back to the pvp server (which, by the way had little to no "n00b! 1337! pwnage!" discussion) I began to think about what RP REALLY means.
Below is my opinion, if you don't like it I can't help ya.
Blizzard created a world, with history, racial beliefs, and everything else to build a realistic society. Trolls act a certain way, humans act another. To say "I can RP a nice, friendly undead!" goes against the whole purpose of role-playing an undead. Much like an actor playing a part in a film or on stage, we are not the ones choosing our "roles" in a RP server. That was done already. It is not about "thee and thou" conversations, I would even go so far as to say that is poor RP as well, since it is not really a part of Warcraft lore, so much as it is Old English/EARTH historical speak.
The orcs have a very stringent society where from day one they are taught exactly how they are expected to behave. It would be like taking a snooty white kid out of his 14th year of prep school and trying to teach him how to rap.
Basically my point is this... RP doesn't mean "Play however you feel and stick to that role", it means "Play the role of someone different, and stick to THEIR role"
If I roleplay a Tauren with my own personality traits, I am not RP'ing much, am I?
Aside from the fact that I hijacked my own thread, I think I made my point clear. People complain about how kid-like PvP servers are (and they most certainly can be!), but don't expect magical anti-child software to pop up in the RP servers.
/rant off
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Other than the fact that "thee and thou" aren't Old English, rather they're Middle English, I completely agree with you. ;)
Fair enough. ;-)
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While I don't completely agree with you as to the definition of RP, I do have to wholeheartedly agree that the discussions which happen about what is proper RP and what isn't make for some of the best serverwide drama to be found anywhere.
To each his own, I say. You're roleplaying a friendly undead, more power to you. I'm who I am, and will respond to you the way my character would.
Wanna get reeeeal messy? Throw in in-game prejudices as well, and see how players respond to your in-character hatrid of them. Heh heh heh.
~The ******
To each his own, I say. You're roleplaying a friendly undead, more power to you. I'm who I am, and will respond to you the way my character would.
Wanna get reeeeal messy? Throw in in-game prejudices as well, and see how players respond to your in-character hatrid of them. Heh heh heh.
~The ******
Well, on most games I couldn't care less what kind of RP each person likes more, but on a game where roles of races are pretty clearly defined it just doesn't make sense to see people role-playing a character that doesn't fit their race. I understand individuality, but as a whole the undead shouldn't be nice unless it's necessary to get what they're after. Orcs shouldn't accept Humans in general, and so on.
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I agree with some of what you are saying but... Personally I think you have a very low tolerance for other players if I'm understanding this post correctly.
An old game I used to play referred to it as Drizzt syndrome and is considered bad form in RP. Drizzt, (If you've never eard of him.) Was a Drow (Dark Elf) who defied his people and joined the Elves against his own people(If this is incorrect in any way feel free to correct me, I dont claim to be an expert, just trying to share what the terrm means).
While this behavior isnt too uncommon against humans. We're not going to see any undead siding with humans in WoW just because they want to be "nice". (To use the OPs example)
On an RP server though you are going to have to take the good with the bad. If somone wants to play a "Drizzt" then let him. but dont feel shy about Hazing hin ICly. An orc isnt going to take kindly to another orc who thinks NE are "Pretty" and decides to help them eradicate the rest of the orcs.
If somone doesnt RP up to your standards dont get mad and flame them. If they are in fact TRYING to RP then run with it. React to it in character. It's pretty easy to handle almost anyone as long as they at least TRY to RP.
My opinion is, if Drizzt syndrome bothers you that much, and somone who is just beginning to RP (Using middle english) bothers you that much, maybe your RP skills are a little lacking as well?
Using your example again of actors... I did Theatre all though High School, and I'll tell you beginner actors arent usually any good either. It takes practice, and if people dont help them learn then they will never get good. Just because you've been given a "ROLE" doesnt mean you have the skill to play it without practice.
What I'm trying to say is... Be more tolerant to your fellow RPers, if it's that hard for you then maybe your not cut out for RP either. you are never going to have 100% of a server be "Good" Rpers, it just wont happen.
Edit: Note: None of this besides the first paragraph are directed at the OP.
Note: None of this besides the first paragraph are directed at the OP.
Edited, Fri Nov 19 01:42:39 2004 by Aacra
I agree with some of what you are saying but... Personally I think you have a very low tolerance for other players if I'm understanding this post correctly.
An old game I used to play referred to it as Drizzt syndrome and is considered bad form in RP. Drizzt, (If you've never eard of him.) Was a Drow (Dark Elf) who defied his people and joined the Elves against his own people(If this is incorrect in any way feel free to correct me, I dont claim to be an expert, just trying to share what the terrm means).
While this behavior isnt too uncommon against humans. We're not going to see any undead siding with humans in WoW just because they want to be "nice". (To use the OPs example)
On an RP server though you are going to have to take the good with the bad. If somone wants to play a "Drizzt" then let him. but dont feel shy about Hazing hin ICly. An orc isnt going to take kindly to another orc who thinks NE are "Pretty" and decides to help them eradicate the rest of the orcs.
If somone doesnt RP up to your standards dont get mad and flame them. If they are in fact TRYING to RP then run with it. React to it in character. It's pretty easy to handle almost anyone as long as they at least TRY to RP.
My opinion is, if Drizzt syndrome bothers you that much, and somone who is just beginning to RP (Using middle english) bothers you that much, maybe your RP skills are a little lacking as well?
Using your example again of actors... I did Theatre all though High School, and I'll tell you beginner actors arent usually any good either. It takes practice, and if people dont help them learn then they will never get good. Just because you've been given a "ROLE" doesnt mean you have the skill to play it without practice.
What I'm trying to say is... Be more tolerant to your fellow RPers, if it's that hard for you then maybe your not cut out for RP either. you are never going to have 100% of a server be "Good" Rpers, it just wont happen.
Edit: Note: None of this besides the first paragraph are directed at the OP.
Note: None of this besides the first paragraph are directed at the OP.
Edited, Fri Nov 19 01:42:39 2004 by Aacra
Like I said, it usually doesn't matter to me what role a person chooses. But in a game where you can't effectively side with the opposite faction, it doesn't make any sense to play a character that is sided with them. I don't generally RP myself, and I won't be playing an RP server usually, so my opinion doesn't really matter much, just trying to make conversation while I wait for release. =)
I usually select RP servers for 2 reason. Generally they are less "Must be max level" oriented then "general" game servers and the community tends to be a little more cohesive without the need to be part of a guild. (Real noble and Role Playing of me, I know. Though I do role play and play by the rules.)
Unfortunately during the open beta the RP servers where garbage and to be honest the whining on the board of what should be and shouldn't be RP turned me off of the idea of an RP server in this game. Still it is worth considering the fact that open beta's are not the place to judge the potential community of the game. Too many freeloaders and people who don't care 'cause it will all be gone in a few weeks (months).
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Slightly off track.
I do find it interesting that people are talking about the "Ridged" roles of the races in World of Warcraft, when a good chunk of the underlying theme of the lore and the game, is all the previous preconceived notions the races had are false. While there are years of distrust and people still fight over land, there is/are greater evils out there and what you "Knew" to be true may not be. I am not saying we will see orcs being invited to thanksgiving dinner in Stormwind any time soon (or even in the next 5 generations) but it may not be uncommon for individuals to wonder "How evil is that Human/Orc/Troll/Dwarf/Gnome. . . "
Unfortunately during the open beta the RP servers where garbage and to be honest the whining on the board of what should be and shouldn't be RP turned me off of the idea of an RP server in this game. Still it is worth considering the fact that open beta's are not the place to judge the potential community of the game. Too many freeloaders and people who don't care 'cause it will all be gone in a few weeks (months).
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Slightly off track.
I do find it interesting that people are talking about the "Ridged" roles of the races in World of Warcraft, when a good chunk of the underlying theme of the lore and the game, is all the previous preconceived notions the races had are false. While there are years of distrust and people still fight over land, there is/are greater evils out there and what you "Knew" to be true may not be. I am not saying we will see orcs being invited to thanksgiving dinner in Stormwind any time soon (or even in the next 5 generations) but it may not be uncommon for individuals to wonder "How evil is that Human/Orc/Troll/Dwarf/Gnome. . . "
Not wanting to wage war against other races is different than wanting to side with them. The game sets you pretty much where you can't side with them, but if people want to try that then I'm not going to be the one complaining about it. I'm just saying how I, personally, would rather RP...I don't care how others choose their roles. I'd rather be on a PvP server anyway, because I love open raids, rather than consentual raids. =)
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An old game I used to play referred to it as Drizzt syndrome and is considered bad form in RP. Drizzt, (If you've never eard of him.) Was a Drow (Dark Elf) who defied his people and joined the Elves against his own people(If this is incorrect in any way feel free to correct me, I dont claim to be an expert, just trying to share what the terrm means).
Close enough heh. He didn't actually join the Elves against his people, it was the dwarves he joined. But the syndrome is real and extremely common in these kinds of games. While I'm not one to pass judgement on a person's style of play, it does get kind of tiresome seeing it constantly.
I too was considering playing on an RP server for many of the reasons KithPine stated. But if they're going to be largely populated by the RP police, then IMO they're no different than the regular servers.
I think it's hard to critique a person's roleplaying without knowing what that person feels about the character (if they feel anything at all). Personally, I write up a whole backstory for each of the characters I roleplay (which isn't to say I roleplay every character in every game I play). It kinda brings the character to life for me. So I think roleplaying a character is probably the most personal thing you can do in an MMO. As such, there can be no objectivity in analyzing it.
In the end, people can whine all they want about someone else's RPing. I'd have a lot more fun with a "beginner RPer" who is really into their character than some gnarled veteran who is so full of themselves, they can't see the forest for the trees.
Don't get me wrong, my primary issue was the non-stop whining in general chat.
As far as Drizzt goes, that happened constantly in EQ, EVERYONE wanted to play the tortured, doesn't fit in "good" dark elf. Sure, maybe 1 ina million has good inclinations, but lets get original here ;-)
I am not quite sure what one has to do with the other in this case. I am just saying that in this setting, where things are pretty concrete during this time period, it isn't realistic to assume that people can "be themselves" and consider that a "role play". The whole point of role-play is to fit a specific role, which is clearly defined by storyline.
*I* am not **** about this whole thing, so allow me to disclaim myself and invite you to reread my original post...
My point is during all the whining on the RP server, everyone had their own opinion as to how to RP. If I don't hear any ooc namecalling, stupid names, or other glaring immature issues, I am happy. It is just funny that 99% of the general discussion was OOC:! May as well make that the OOC channel, there was no RP there anyway. So, no, I don't really care about the RP, the constant bickering bugged me, so I left.
As far as Drizzt goes, that happened constantly in EQ, EVERYONE wanted to play the tortured, doesn't fit in "good" dark elf. Sure, maybe 1 ina million has good inclinations, but lets get original here ;-)
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My opinion is, if Drizzt syndrome bothers you that much, and somone who is just beginning to RP (Using middle english) bothers you that much, maybe your RP skills are a little lacking as well?
I am not quite sure what one has to do with the other in this case. I am just saying that in this setting, where things are pretty concrete during this time period, it isn't realistic to assume that people can "be themselves" and consider that a "role play". The whole point of role-play is to fit a specific role, which is clearly defined by storyline.
*I* am not **** about this whole thing, so allow me to disclaim myself and invite you to reread my original post...
My point is during all the whining on the RP server, everyone had their own opinion as to how to RP. If I don't hear any ooc namecalling, stupid names, or other glaring immature issues, I am happy. It is just funny that 99% of the general discussion was OOC:! May as well make that the OOC channel, there was no RP there anyway. So, no, I don't really care about the RP, the constant bickering bugged me, so I left.
i agree, though my expieriences on Test server 34, the RP server on the West coast was cool. I tried to show my racial prejudices against orcs and tauren, but i couldent understand them, and they couldent understand me. :oP Was kinda comical. As far as the childish stuff, no matter where u go u'll never get rid of that. I just turn the other cheek and iggy the people who irritate me.
Edited, Fri Nov 19 11:17:25 2004 by SkeeLo
Edited, Fri Nov 19 11:17:25 2004 by SkeeLo
/leave general
we know what ppl say in general chat... no need to whine about it here... if you don't like it... then leave the general chat..
no matter what server you are on.. pvp, rp, normal
you will see the mosted hated (impv) "noob" and some usless chat... or ppl asking the same thing over and over and over.......
I have no idea what you are trying to say... sorry i am not much of a rp... but isn't role playing some thing that you will get enjoyment out of?
if you like beeing undead that like ppl then do it... no need to hush them and tell them that is wrong...
we know what ppl say in general chat... no need to whine about it here... if you don't like it... then leave the general chat..
no matter what server you are on.. pvp, rp, normal
you will see the mosted hated (impv) "noob" and some usless chat... or ppl asking the same thing over and over and over.......
I have no idea what you are trying to say... sorry i am not much of a rp... but isn't role playing some thing that you will get enjoyment out of?
if you like beeing undead that like ppl then do it... no need to hush them and tell them that is wrong...
Again, I never said they were wrong, per se. Just that people go to a server for one reason, then complain about it constantly. Even the pvp servers didn't have near the whining that RP had.
Again, I don't care how people play in RP, was just noting the issues I had with it. And no, general has its bad points with the constant "Where do I find XXX?" "RTFQ!", but RP was beyond that with the OOC: You aren't RP'ing! I am gonna call a GM!... OOC: I am too RP'ing! I am RP'ing myself!.... OOC: That doesn't count! You can't do that. And so on. If you are RP, why is every word coming out of your mouth OOC? /shrug
I like the chatter that comes from General, it was just unbearable there ;-)
Again, I don't care how people play in RP, was just noting the issues I had with it. And no, general has its bad points with the constant "Where do I find XXX?" "RTFQ!", but RP was beyond that with the OOC: You aren't RP'ing! I am gonna call a GM!... OOC: I am too RP'ing! I am RP'ing myself!.... OOC: That doesn't count! You can't do that. And so on. If you are RP, why is every word coming out of your mouth OOC? /shrug
I like the chatter that comes from General, it was just unbearable there ;-)
oh sorry -_-;;
didn't realy understand what you are saying...
but over all it can be stoped by :D
/leave general
it is your friend :D
didn't realy understand what you are saying...
but over all it can be stoped by :D
/leave general
it is your friend :D
Hehe, I normally like general, so i used
/leave RP Server, instead ;-)
More silly names in pvp, less silly chat. I will try the RP server after release, as I don't wanna judge retail on my beta experience.
/leave RP Server, instead ;-)
More silly names in pvp, less silly chat. I will try the RP server after release, as I don't wanna judge retail on my beta experience.
Personally I see it this way.
I will rp how I want to rp my character.
You don't and won't be paying my monthly fee, for my ISP, or for the game itself.
No one has any right to tell me how to rp my character.
So if I so chose to play a undead that loves humans, oh well thats my choice. If you do not like it my best suggestion would be /ignore =)
I will rp how I want to rp my character.
You don't and won't be paying my monthly fee, for my ISP, or for the game itself.
No one has any right to tell me how to rp my character.
So if I so chose to play a undead that loves humans, oh well thats my choice. If you do not like it my best suggestion would be /ignore =)
My real problem was more with the supposed "Rp community" as opposed to any rabble rousers coming to the server.
I saw stuff like supposed RP talk, while using "u" in the place of you. I saw things like continually referring to yourself as a "rouge."
Most of all, and most irritating, I saw the continual need for them to talk "OOC" and to always preface it with ((this is something I'm saying ooc)) or OOC<ooc text here>.
Why bother? Why bother being on a supposed Roleplaying server when you actually REMIND people that you are talking OOC when you do so CONSTANTLY. I saw MORE actual RP kind of talk on my regular server 8 stress/open server and on my closed beta server.
If you TRUELY want to "roleplay" and be on a roleplay server, for gad's sake do it without stopping. Please don't say things that are OOC even if you do put goofy meaningless brackets around them, its STILL ooc. These people actually THOUGHT they were roleplayers, that was the sad part. You have to lead by example and not depart from that role at all or its just all moot. Got lag and you can't loot that corpse? "For some reason an unforseen force is preventing me from retrieving items from this creature!" It isn't THAT hard to roleplay absolutely ANY technical problem that crops up in the game.
Rp server 35 was just plain ridiculous. It was good for a laugh, that was about it. I've yet to see ONE so called roleplaying server in any of these games which REALLY was. The closest I ever saw was the early firiona vie where no one spoke the same language as my character when I went to dwarf and gnome land and there WERE no chat channels. So I saw less non roleplay because I saw nothing at all.
Quaxotl wrote:
Don't get me wrong, my primary issue was the non-stop whining in general chat.
As far as Drizzt goes, that happened constantly in EQ, EVERYONE wanted to play the tortured, doesn't fit in "good" dark elf. Sure, maybe 1 ina million has good inclinations, but lets get original here ;-)
As far as Drizzt goes, that happened constantly in EQ, EVERYONE wanted to play the tortured, doesn't fit in "good" dark elf. Sure, maybe 1 ina million has good inclinations, but lets get original here ;-)
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My opinion is, if Drizzt syndrome bothers you that much, and somone who is just beginning to RP (Using middle english) bothers you that much, maybe your RP skills are a little lacking as well?
The "Drizzt" syndrome is more than just playing the tortured good Dark Elf who turned away from his people. It involves recreating the Drizzt character as closely as possible, including the Dual Wielding Scimitars, etc.
Thankfully, we shouldn't have much of that in WoW, because almost none of the races are inherently evil. The prime "inherently evil" candidates are the Undead and all Warlocks. With the former it is a dicier issue, as maybe some *can* be good, imho, and we'll have to see how many undead players want to do this. As for Warlocks, I suppose almost everyone one will be of the "we are evil" type, though I never met or heard of an NPC warlock that was good (this might be similar with the undead).
Other than those two though, I don't think anyone is actually evil. The Orc that decides to be "good" by wanting to join the humans is just horribly confused, and given how the game plays I expect this sort of behavior/rp-ing to be extremely rare.
-Drachasor
I enjoy role-playing during table top RPGs. But I’ve never felt comfortable with it in a MMORPG. The most luck I had was playing an ogre in EQ. He was fun for about 20 levels. Then I kind of got tired of always having to type like that. So I’ve never sought out a RP server.
However, I do like creating back stories for my characters. I’ll even pass up some quests if they ask my character to do something he is not motivated to do. So my playing experience tends to between playing a rogue and playing a paladin.
I would also tend to go with racial prejudices, in so far as their shaping my character’s view of the world. But I would think that the undead are kind of an exception. With the other races, you’re born into them and grow up learning a certain viewpoint of the world around you. But if I understand the undead correctly, you just wake up one day and find yourself undead. You suddenly have free will again. If that’s the case, shouldn’t you have whatever personality you had before you were turned undead? If my character was a good person in life, why would he now sudden seek to destroy all life? That doesn’t make any sense to me. What am I missing?
However, I do like creating back stories for my characters. I’ll even pass up some quests if they ask my character to do something he is not motivated to do. So my playing experience tends to between playing a rogue and playing a paladin.
I would also tend to go with racial prejudices, in so far as their shaping my character’s view of the world. But I would think that the undead are kind of an exception. With the other races, you’re born into them and grow up learning a certain viewpoint of the world around you. But if I understand the undead correctly, you just wake up one day and find yourself undead. You suddenly have free will again. If that’s the case, shouldn’t you have whatever personality you had before you were turned undead? If my character was a good person in life, why would he now sudden seek to destroy all life? That doesn’t make any sense to me. What am I missing?
Calabar wrote:
But if I understand the undead correctly, you just wake up one day and find yourself undead. You suddenly have free will again. If that’s the case, shouldn’t you have whatever personality you had before you were turned undead? If my character was a good person in life, why would he now sudden seek to destroy all life? That doesn’t make any sense to me. What am I missing?
The Kerrigan effect.
-Drachasor
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Thankfully, we shouldn't have much of that in WoW, because almost none of the races are inherently evil. The prime "inherently evil" candidates are the Undead and all Warlocks. With the former it is a dicier issue, as maybe some *can* be good, imho, and we'll have to see how many undead players want to do this. As for Warlocks, I suppose almost everyone one will be of the "we are evil" type, though I never met or heard of an NPC warlock that was good (this might be similar with the undead).
Well, I played a warlock and had a blast, and even when I am not on a RP server I RP =) I figured a female gnome warlock should have a case if having to prove I am just as good as a male warlock but better so I determined that I would have to have a sort of kamikazi approach. I soloed because I could do it all myself, but with a streak of self preservation so if it looked like a fight wasnt going well I would run as fast as I could away to stay alive. I didn't hog spawns, but would go and find something different to kill rather than compete with a lot of other people trying to get the same spawns [because I knew I could go back as soon as they had their items and could get my quota at my leisure] I picked mining and engineering, so I would take time every hour or so to run around exclusively mining for ore ... it was sort of like a gnome with asperger's syndrom. Very self centered, prideful and *very* process oriented. I am nothing like that in real life, and I played my paladin very differently [dwarf female pally] where I would go out of my way to help people, give directions on how to find locations, group with them to get the number of kills even if i had just finiished getting my kills ... very much a knight in shining armor. I played my hunter as a solitary, helping people if I ran across them out in the bush. I didnt go out of my way to be helpful, but very much like an aragorn - the strong silent type that does what she considers correct but staying out of crowds. My dark elf druid was very social, helpful and i did a lot of buff sniping on lower levels as I percieved the druid as being like a paladin, concerned with helping and society.
I dont know if my friends will want to play on a regular, PVP or RP server...but I cant wait!!!
Scholar
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Oh heck. I'm gonna go over to the side of the topic and give a defense for 'friendly' undead.
In WC lore, as I understand it, the undead were truly evil because they were part of the scourge and being controlled by the Lich King. It is perfectly reasonable to assume that, once freed of that control, they would start to revert to their base personalities. Hate to say it, but some pretty evil bastards are friendly.
While I would never play an undead that was really friendly to humans because it's hard to be friendly when the entire race wants to slaughter you, I probably will have an alt that is a friendly guy in general and actively misses being 'human' and misses that acceptance in the culture that he originally grew up in.
As far as Alliance-Horde hatred, it makes sense that some Orcs would get along with humans to a degree better than the usual "Humans are evil so we's needs to be smahin' em all." After all, according to lore about a decade has passed since they had to fight side by side against a greater menace. It is completely reasonable to expect that some individuals formed friendships and relationships under the heat of fire that crossed racial boundaries.
Sorry, but as long as someone can justify their attitudes with some reasonably thought I'm not going to RP **** because they chose something I consider overplayed.
In WC lore, as I understand it, the undead were truly evil because they were part of the scourge and being controlled by the Lich King. It is perfectly reasonable to assume that, once freed of that control, they would start to revert to their base personalities. Hate to say it, but some pretty evil bastards are friendly.
While I would never play an undead that was really friendly to humans because it's hard to be friendly when the entire race wants to slaughter you, I probably will have an alt that is a friendly guy in general and actively misses being 'human' and misses that acceptance in the culture that he originally grew up in.
As far as Alliance-Horde hatred, it makes sense that some Orcs would get along with humans to a degree better than the usual "Humans are evil so we's needs to be smahin' em all." After all, according to lore about a decade has passed since they had to fight side by side against a greater menace. It is completely reasonable to expect that some individuals formed friendships and relationships under the heat of fire that crossed racial boundaries.
Sorry, but as long as someone can justify their attitudes with some reasonably thought I'm not going to RP **** because they chose something I consider overplayed.
hellpup wrote:
Sorry, but as long as someone can justify their attitudes with some reasonably thought I'm not going to RP **** because they chose something I consider overplayed.
I agree wholeheartedly, and hopefully Blizzard will support such roleplaying by adding in NPC Warlocks (and undead?) that are good. Right now I know of no NPC Warlocks that aren't evil, and I have a feeling it is the same for the undead. I think Blizzard certainly thinks such things are the exception rather than the rule, and I don't have a problem with that either. Afterall, there is nothing inherently wrong with someone RPing an exception to the rule.
My comments on Undead and Warlocks were more about how they are portrayed by Blizzard.
-Drachasor
Mostly I agree with Princess DiamondRayna about roleplaying however we like. I really don't go with the idea of having to follow a detailed template of how to act - its not a script.
I would expect people to follow conventions to the extent that, if my naked Dark Elf character is being eaten alive by a Bear, I wouldn't expect a Paladin to stand there and watch.
I like people to type properly when possible, but I don't think this has anything to do with roleplaying. If I am fighting I might only have time to type "we need more ppl!" and other ways to chat fast. In the example above about lag preventing looting, I wouldnt expect anyone to say "some unforseen force is preventing...." eww!! I'd say "i cant loot it" which would work in context and is fast to type.
All these silly little points seem to stop proper discussion of roleplaying. I was GM of an RPG for years, I know what RP is. I wouldn't let a Bear eat me because my character had some affinity to Bears. I wouldn't turn down a quest for RP reasons and maybe stop myself progressing to other quests that 'required' that one.
I use the game to RP, where possible. In the game, I bow to show respect, I cheer people when they achieve something, I love swimming, and I dance and play with people and have fun. I also chat very quickly when needed, and a lot of the RP comes out here. I am my character in the game.
What is needed (from Blizzard) for better RP in the future, is better support ingame. Here are some ideas and examples that would help make WoW last forever to the RP community and let people use their imagination to the full.
1) Add more emotes and dance styles.
2) Add group emotes (with /consent if need be) such as leap into arms, hold hands (and follow), share food/drink
3) Add a record video option, or a 'watch x' option so someone can play cameraman whilst someone else acts out a scene for a later video edit
4) Let people do more, such as climb trees, even if there isn't any good reason to want to.
5) Let people declare limited pvp type war, so a group can go and do a small scale acted out scenario where a few of them play bad guys. Create fun disguises like wolf heads for purposes of acting out things, playing hide and seek, etc.
6) The 24 hour cycle is slow but ok, but why not make characters feel more real by having to rest, eat, drink, sleep etc so they have reasons to pause by the roadside and chat, etc. This could be an option so other players who didn't want this could turn it off (and lose their RP symbol maybe)
7) Instead of instant death, let people get incapped so they are vulnerable for maybe 30 seconds and might get killed, or rescued. There is such a short time between someone maybe gonna win a battle, and them being dead, and no time to call for help and play the damsel in distress, or a rescuer. Also for friendly RP PvP, 'actors'/'players' should be left lying on the floor until the scene ends, rather than just a 'x has beaten y' msg.
8) WHEN THEY ENABLE IT, players who want to RP should have the option of capturing one another or being captured, to give a quest goal for the other players to achieve. Also as an alternative to death. It would feel more meaningful to regroup in the deadmines to rescue a captured team mate, then all clone in the graveyard and keep rushing back in and dying.
9) RP players should have their own combat options as applied to just each group playing together. Things like any hit from another RP player will incap them, this would enable chases through woods where a single hit takes someone down, at least for 30 secs, without spoiling the interaction with other players not in the group.
Anyway, just some ideas, I have lots more, I hope some of them get put in so I can have a richer, more fun experience and not one day get bored of killing monsters all the time.
BTW tuesday - how will I know which server to RP on? Gonna be kinda busy day isnt it?
Take Care,
Lorna / Cherreia. - ex-Test 18
I would expect people to follow conventions to the extent that, if my naked Dark Elf character is being eaten alive by a Bear, I wouldn't expect a Paladin to stand there and watch.
I like people to type properly when possible, but I don't think this has anything to do with roleplaying. If I am fighting I might only have time to type "we need more ppl!" and other ways to chat fast. In the example above about lag preventing looting, I wouldnt expect anyone to say "some unforseen force is preventing...." eww!! I'd say "i cant loot it" which would work in context and is fast to type.
All these silly little points seem to stop proper discussion of roleplaying. I was GM of an RPG for years, I know what RP is. I wouldn't let a Bear eat me because my character had some affinity to Bears. I wouldn't turn down a quest for RP reasons and maybe stop myself progressing to other quests that 'required' that one.
I use the game to RP, where possible. In the game, I bow to show respect, I cheer people when they achieve something, I love swimming, and I dance and play with people and have fun. I also chat very quickly when needed, and a lot of the RP comes out here. I am my character in the game.
What is needed (from Blizzard) for better RP in the future, is better support ingame. Here are some ideas and examples that would help make WoW last forever to the RP community and let people use their imagination to the full.
1) Add more emotes and dance styles.
2) Add group emotes (with /consent if need be) such as leap into arms, hold hands (and follow), share food/drink
3) Add a record video option, or a 'watch x' option so someone can play cameraman whilst someone else acts out a scene for a later video edit
4) Let people do more, such as climb trees, even if there isn't any good reason to want to.
5) Let people declare limited pvp type war, so a group can go and do a small scale acted out scenario where a few of them play bad guys. Create fun disguises like wolf heads for purposes of acting out things, playing hide and seek, etc.
6) The 24 hour cycle is slow but ok, but why not make characters feel more real by having to rest, eat, drink, sleep etc so they have reasons to pause by the roadside and chat, etc. This could be an option so other players who didn't want this could turn it off (and lose their RP symbol maybe)
7) Instead of instant death, let people get incapped so they are vulnerable for maybe 30 seconds and might get killed, or rescued. There is such a short time between someone maybe gonna win a battle, and them being dead, and no time to call for help and play the damsel in distress, or a rescuer. Also for friendly RP PvP, 'actors'/'players' should be left lying on the floor until the scene ends, rather than just a 'x has beaten y' msg.
8) WHEN THEY ENABLE IT, players who want to RP should have the option of capturing one another or being captured, to give a quest goal for the other players to achieve. Also as an alternative to death. It would feel more meaningful to regroup in the deadmines to rescue a captured team mate, then all clone in the graveyard and keep rushing back in and dying.
9) RP players should have their own combat options as applied to just each group playing together. Things like any hit from another RP player will incap them, this would enable chases through woods where a single hit takes someone down, at least for 30 secs, without spoiling the interaction with other players not in the group.
Anyway, just some ideas, I have lots more, I hope some of them get put in so I can have a richer, more fun experience and not one day get bored of killing monsters all the time.
BTW tuesday - how will I know which server to RP on? Gonna be kinda busy day isnt it?
Take Care,
Lorna / Cherreia. - ex-Test 18
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