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#1 Nov 09 2004 at 7:03 PM Rating: Good
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** Disclaimer - I'm not an experienced WoW player. I did not play closed Beta. I do not have an easy-money secret or a get rich quick scheme. I'm just going to share my thoughts on money in WoW and what I've figured out so far. If I'm wrong about anything, please let me know by posting here or PM'ing me, and I'll make sure to make any corrections. **

I'm just a newbie, but I'm so far I like the money system in WoW. There are quite a few things to spend money on, but I never seem to run short. Here are a few points on money in WoW and a few tips on how to make it:

Money in an MMORPG

If you're new to MMORPGs, you might find making money is not what you're used to in single-player games. Money in MMO has a different sort of value. Whereas money in a single-player game is just another challenge for you (being a single person, the only person using that money), money in an MMO is an actual medium of exchange between real people. Thus, in an abstract way, money in an MMO has real value. (If you don't believe me, check out an FFXI or EQ money selling site online - you can pay hundreds of US$ for online money if you were inclined).

As a result, money does not typically just come to you. Now, one thing that I have found (so far) in WoW is that just by going about your questing/leveling business, you generally will earn enough money to get by. Skills are not cheap, but I have found that the money than can be earned both through rewards from quests and drops from mobs while questing pays just enough. For those of you who are new to the MMO genre, Blizzard deserves much praise for this. In FFXI for example, there was no way you could level and make money at the same time. Those who did not realize this were always poor and terribly equipped. In FFXI, you had to take time off of leveling to farm. In WoW, you can very efficiently farm and level at the same time.

Grey Items

Typical "Junk" (as more experienced players call it) dropped from mob are called "Grey items" because their name is grey. For the most part, these items should be sold to NPCs for quick money. The exceptions are popular items used in skillcrafting (such as stacks of 20 Linen cloth). These items can be sold at the Auction House for quite a bit more than they are sold for to the NPCs, and you will be supplying something important for craftspeople. When you make it to your Auction House (quite a journey for some races), take a look at the tradeskill items and get a feel for what is worth saving.

Some weapons and armor are grey. At low levels, if you can use the item, and it's better than what you have, it's definitely a good bet to use the items. Once you get past about L10, you will start to find enough better items to equip, and you will find that the grey weapons and armor seem to get obsolete. At L17, I find that all grey weapons and armor are NPC selling items.

Green Items

Green Items are rare items. There are also Blue and Purple Items (I think those are the colors) which are rarer, but I don't think you'll see them early on. I didn't. You should generally not sell green items to NPCs. If you can use them, and they're better than what you have, I'd recommend using them. However, myself for example, I'm a Hunter and so I can not wear any of the Mail armor I find, nor can I wield most of the weapons. If you don't need it for yourself, save them in your bank! When you are next at the Auction House, put them up for auction. You will find that other players who need these items will pay a lot more for them than NPCs.

Other green items, aside from weapons and armor, include tradeskill scrolls and crafting items. These are also rare and very much in demand, so I would strongly recommend saving them in your bank until you make it to the Auction House.

By the way - the bank (for the alliance anyway) is located conveniently near the Auction House. Also, you get plenty of room in your bank to store these items.

The Auction House

The Auction House (AH) in WoW is very different from FFXI (my own previous experience). It works e-Bay style, rather than the FFXI way (which was basically when you bid, you bought, provided someone had listed it for less than your bid).

The way the AH works in WoW you set a starting price, a buy-out price (optional) and choose an auction duration (2hrs, 8hrs or 24 hrs).

There are a LOT of items for sale, and you can choose a category and set certain parameters to do a search, so you don't have to sift through pages and pages of things to find what you're looking for.

Also (and this confused me as well as many other people) - when you buy something, the item gets sent to your mailbox. When you sell something, the money gets sent to your mailbox. You can't take anything straight from the AH.

I have only used the AH a handful of times so far, but so far I really like it, and I have found it a good tool for earning good money on the green items I've found while exploring.

Crafting for money

I have started to really like the crafting system in WoW. The tradeskills are pleasant to me, basically because there is no "failure" (no lost materials while building skill). You can also choose two crafts that compiment each other (I.e. Skinning/Leatherworking, Mining/Smithing).

I'm not going to share my secrets, but I have found that once you get crafting to a higher level, you can buy/quest high end recipes and sell the products on Auction for a good profit.

For raising skill, you are generally going to want to:
  • Use a recipe that is Orange or Red, or at least green (as you gain skill, only recipes that are higher than your level will gain you skill. The higher the recipe, the greater chance it will give you skill.
  • Use a recipe that requires the fewest, cheapest ingredients. (Unless you are crafting for profit, or for a specific purpose, like armor for yourself, use the recipe that uses the fewest items

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    Another hour at work successfully passed posting on Allakhazam! I hope it's useful. If you want me to add/change something, please post or send me a PM.

    Cheers and Happy Hunting!

    (P.S. 1 hour 56 mins of work left ... must ... play ...)



    Edited, Tue Nov 9 19:12:06 2004 by kingjord

    Edited, Wed Nov 10 04:05:34 2004 by kingjord
    #3 Nov 09 2004 at 7:32 PM Rating: Decent
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    Mav,

    I'm not by any means trying to "FFXI this game"

    I was just trying to share things that took me a while to figure out with everyone... Cause I was bored at work and I like being helpful.

    Not sure how you draw the parallel between this guide and the downside of FFXI Smiley: confused
    #4 Nov 09 2004 at 7:36 PM Rating: Decent
    wow.

    first of all, thank you jord for the very useful perspective and information.

    warmaverick. i don't think he is "ffxi'ing" anything here. he's just giving a very good and very useful perspective on the economy in wow from an ffxi player's pov - a lot of people will be in this position. in fact, that was my top question coming to this game, how does the economy feel? i hated how it felt in ffxi, but i think i like it better here. he didn't divulge dirty secrets or exploits or anything. just talked about it.

    please don't flame for that.

    respectfully,
    goodr
    #6 Nov 09 2004 at 8:08 PM Rating: Decent
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    The second half of the problem is, multiply Joe by a few thousand, maybe even tens of thousands, who can be sure?

    Now you have a stagnant game economy filled with self-proclaimed know it alls, A.K.K FFXI.

    Sounds crazy, maybe? I think not.

    But don't listen to me, I'm a crazy has-been.


    Mav,

    I've been around this site long enough to know *EXACTLY* what you're talking about. I honestly don't think that the kind of tips I gave in this post are going to lead to that, though.
    #8 Nov 09 2004 at 8:18 PM Rating: Decent
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    Yeah, maybe it's just repressing anger, and I jumped the gun. Sorry kingjord.


    LoL ... I understand... I used to frequent the FFXI RDM Forum ... I ... Understand.
    #9REDACTED, Posted: Nov 09 2004 at 11:50 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) nerds in a cat fight
    #10 Nov 10 2004 at 12:03 AM Rating: Default
    Firstly GREEN items are only uncommon, its Blue items that are considered rare.
    #11 Nov 10 2004 at 12:10 AM Rating: Decent
    I'm not sure what you're talking about. FFXI didn't go down the tubes because of well written guides like this one. If anything, guides like this are why I kept playing it longer than I would have!! Thanks to the original poster, this isn't bad...

    #12 Nov 10 2004 at 1:41 AM Rating: Decent
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    Yes green items are uncommon, had 3 drop in 10 minutes on darkshore :\. But its still true that they are quite useful for the correct classes.
    #13 Nov 10 2004 at 3:19 AM Rating: Good
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    Face it, Kingjord, your *** is ours now. No more FFXI for you! *cuts him off from the world of tarus and elvaans and into the world of MC Hammer orcs, jamacian trolls and stripper night elf women* Really, would you have it any other way? ;)

    I know how ya feel as a fellow red mage, btw, jord. The FFXI red mage forum is littered with no melee this, ninja subs that and the classic Red MAGE and not Red Warrior threads. Then after that the posters dictate what you can or cannot do otherwise you will be nothing more then a little gimped ******* child of swords and magic...

    ...

    Oh yeah, you posted a money guide!

    ...

    Fine, ***** it...rate up for you for providing info on this. Nothing like a newbie begging for cash when it's sooooo there for the taking!
    #15 Nov 10 2004 at 3:27 AM Rating: Decent
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    Earthbind totem/healing totem/fire totem to melee, War! You know you want too....
    #16 Nov 10 2004 at 5:49 AM Rating: Good
    Honestly, I wouldn't consider this a guide :) When you think about, from what I've seen, WoW is very well planned out and the game does a very VERY good job of helping you along. NPCs with quests are very easy to find with their big ol !. You go take you first quest, it tells you to go kill some stuff, you do this, you level, you get another quest to kill something different. Once you get high enuf you get a delivery type quest that sends you off to a new area, where, low and behold, there's a bunch more !'s for you.

    Need help around town? Ask a guard! They put markers on your map for you and everything (did you ever notice the green set of markers in FFXI... the manual said these were 'special' markers that could only be set by NPCs to help you out... did you ever notice how many times they were used? That's right.. a whole whopping ONCE, to show you who to give your adventurer's coupon to.)

    Oh and BTW, Linen Cloth is a white item, not a grey item ^^

    That being said, I think this thread, and all the other threads to come, are more advice that guides. Advice: Sell fo Gray items for NPC change, save green items to auction. Etc. I think that with the time and effort Bliz put into polishing this game and observing the ******* and rants of other MMO's players, there's a good chance this game won't get mess up by gil(gold)sellers and the horrible (won't someone PLEASE think of the children) bots. Franky I don't see any reason for goldsellers or bots. Fishing is fun, easy, rather bot-proof in design, and it's end result pays of with useful items that you wouldn't want..oh...10,000 of just to be a better fisher. Gold? Well it comes by well enuf that you don't even need to farm for it. If you feel like spending a night "farming" you'll be very pleased with the results and probably won't have to do it again for some time. NM camping is going to be minimal as such a high percentage of "uber" equipment binds to you. Instace dungeons make for fun party content and good item drops without fear of the other fools in the zone with you.

    And last thing I'm going to rant, have you noticed how hard it is for someone to train mobs on you? The lack of zonelines helps for one, but the really nice thing is that once the mob train hits the end of the leash, they turn around and run back to their start point. While they're resetting they don't aggro, the heal fully in about 2 ticks, and the nifty thing, they evade EVERYTHING. It's impossible to pull mobs off a resetting train. Very well designed if you ask me.

    Okey, enuf rants, enuf bad typing (sorry!). Simple put this game is, in my crappy opinion, much better designed than FFXI (the only thing I have to compare to) and much funner. I won't post again about the evils of FFXI, I'm sure you're all sick of hearing it (who isn't!)

    Edited, Wed Nov 10 05:51:04 2004 by tekkub
    #17 Nov 10 2004 at 1:13 PM Rating: Good
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    Where is, or how do I access the auction house? Since I haven't found the AH and I am level 13 I assume most things I craft that would appeal to someone my level aren't going to sell since they don't know how to buy them. Would it be more efficient to chat channel auction lower level goods and sell higher level goods in the AH?
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    #18 Nov 10 2004 at 1:32 PM Rating: Decent
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    Where is, or how do I access the auction house?


    When you hit the first real major hub for your side you will find it. For the Horde it is located in Orgrimar (I know I didn't spell that correctly :P ). You can also always ask the guards in any established town and they can give you the general direction of where you should go.

    Also, rate up kingjord. Excellent guide. I would like to add a few things though:

    - Green items can also be disenchanted (if you have the enchanting tradeskill). This can be a good way of getting the reagents needed to enchant...two lesser essences from a vendor is 8 silver. However, you can craft something with another skill (I usually make soft soled linen boots for this) and then disenchant it, grab the reagents from the disenchant and then enchant another item of your own. I know this really doesn't encompass the money making aspect of your guide, but it's something I've seen overlooked a few times by other players.


    For those of you who haven't played yet, good luck getting into
    the open beta. Even if you can't get in when it finally releases you will be in for a treat :)
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