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#1 Sep 18 2004 at 2:00 PM Rating: Default
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The third component is player versus player gameplay. All the games that Blizzard has released have always been competitive, and our fans look to us to provide that type of play. So, we felt that had to be a core component of World of Warcraft


Welcome to World of Warcraft everyone that ever doubted me. If I get flamed this will justify Blizzards statement even more. So this tells you that this MMO specifically is for PvP so don't give me that sh*t about PvP doesnt belong in MMOs.
#2 Sep 18 2004 at 4:46 PM Rating: Default
PvP definately should be a part of this game, mabey it shouldn't be a basically required part, but what is Warcraft if your not allowed to kill the opposing team (Warcraft I - Humans vs Orc, Warcraft III - ALliance vs Horde)



Edited, Sat Sep 18 17:49:21 2004 by GaMeSTa
#3 Sep 18 2004 at 5:31 PM Rating: Good
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The third component is player versus player gameplay. All the games that Blizzard has released have always been competitive, and our fans look to us to provide that type of play. So, we felt that had to be a core component of World of Warcraft
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Welcome to World of Warcraft everyone that ever doubted me. If I get flamed this will justify Blizzards statement even more. So this tells you that this MMO specifically is for PvP so don't give me that sh*t about PvP doesnt belong in MMOs.


Hahaha man, you really need something else to do the prove how right you are. We never denied that WoW will have PvP but the thing is people will come into and will not focus on PvP. The game gives people the choice and Blizzard respects the choices of the people otherwise they would have made the gameplay similar to Lineage 2.

You took a quote and let me point out something: the person said "third component". That means while pvp is part of the game, it is by no means the main "end all, be all" component. It is a component in the game just like PvE, questing, crafting, and exploring amoung others. Is pvp an important component? Of course but in no way is it mandatory.

With that quote, I'll raise you this:

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We really wanted to make our PvP system unique, and we wanted to create a way for everyone to participate in PvP combat if they wanted to.


Edited, Sat Sep 18 19:08:32 2004 by Redmoonxl
#4 Sep 18 2004 at 9:44 PM Rating: Default
LOL something to prove you. You freaking hypocrite you and Creamed where both talking about how PVP does not belong in an MMORPG. You didn't doubt that it wasn't going to have PvP you said altogether it didn't belong. This is the whole reason why flames started just because of my argument which actually proves something. PvP was the third most important thing they wanted in the game.
The part however about the AI monsters in the game the only reason why this is a main component is that if they didn't have this it wouldn't be a MMORPG in the first place. So don't act like the first two things mentioned are in any means more important then PvP. Blizzard always had PvP in there games because they know that there players like the competition and they think it's a core component. The whole reason why I stated PvP should be removed from PvE servers was because most people that went to that server are people from games Like EQ and FFXI. Also i would like to explain why i sometimes despise PvE players. Don't think your the only ones labeled with names like Carebear. Many people like myself like to PvP but when we do we get name tags like gankers,griefers,losers and etc. That is the reason why i sometimes go hostile when someone goes against me about PvP i know it's wrong but sometimes i take it the wrong way.
There are many people in the Boards of the Main forums like to label us with such names and frankly many get tired of it and develop attitudes such as mine. This leads to being negative to PvE players. I try not to start attacks but sometimes it happens and i wish they will make it so you can't post in another server to prevent further problems. It would be nice if everyone could just go there seperate ways and not look at each other a different way because of there server and i will try not to continue my crap about the word "Carebear".
#5 Sep 18 2004 at 9:56 PM Rating: Decent
I dont think pvp should be removed from pve servers, just because we dont want to pvp all the time doesnt mean we dont like to pvp. Full time pvp kinda brings on a form of paranoia that i just dont want to have when im trying to lvl or have fun. Its kinda like having a girlfriend. Its good to know shes there when i want her but i dont want to deal with her constantly :P
#6 Sep 18 2004 at 10:18 PM Rating: Good
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Geez are you still mad about the "PvPgamers Rejoice!" thread?
Here are the beginning entry of the thread:

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*sits by a fire place, reading a book and smoking a pipe*

Oh, hello! Didn't see you come in! Please, have a seat... *Claps 3 times and chairs appear for all*

As you know, I'm Redmoon. Lover, scholar, philosopher and the world's most familiar sex symbol! I have done much with my life over the years and have met with very famous people as they got their police reports filled but thats not why I'm here. You see, I'm here for you, the PvP gamer.


Did that really scream out seriousness? Wow...you need something better to do then read forums then...

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LOL something to prove you. You freaking hypocrite you and Creamed where both talking about how PVP does not belong in an MMORPG. You didn't doubt that it wasn't going to have PvP you said altogether it didn't belong. This is the whole reason why flames started just because of my argument which actually proves something. PvP was the third most important thing they wanted in the game.
The part however about the AI monsters in the game the only reason why this is a main component is that if they didn't have this it wouldn't be a MMORPG in the first place. So don't act like the first two things mentioned are in any means more important then PvP. Blizzard always had PvP in there games because they know that there players like the competition and they think it's a core component. The whole reason why I stated PvP should be removed from PvE servers was because most people that went to that server are people from games Like EQ and FFXI. Also i would like to explain why i sometimes despise PvE players. Don't think your the only ones labeled with names like Carebear. Many people like myself like to PvP but when we do we get name tags like gankers,griefers,losers and etc. That is the reason why i sometimes go hostile when someone goes against me about PvP i know it's wrong but sometimes i take it the wrong way.
There are many people in the Boards of the Main forums like to label us with such names and frankly many get tired of it and develop attitudes such as mine. This leads to being negative to PvE players. I try not to start attacks but sometimes it happens and i wish they will make it so you can't post in another server to prevent further problems. It would be nice if everyone could just go there seperate ways and not look at each other a different way because of there server and i will try not to continue my crap about the word "Carebear".


Hmmm, you began with an attack and asked not to be attacked? Your logic...it scares me...

While I have delt with very nasty pvpers, I never bothered making insults (My PvP thread does not count) My one issue with PvP in MMOs is that not many games have got it right. Its all based on stats, numbers and misses which makes the combat come down to luck rather then skill. Also, my other problem is when people is trying to make this out as strictly a pvp game, where anybody who is not following the "War" in Warcraft is nothing more then a carebear like you have said many times. I don't mind opinions but you seem so paranoid when anybody says something opposing your ideals that we look at you in a bad light as well as the community you are trying to represent. Also, reread the PvP thread I have made. I said PvP in MMOs would be possible once a a MMO does it right (I personally think that WoW will as I also stated) That alone makes your hypocrite comment a mute point.

Let me also remind you that PvP in other Blizzard games means nothing when it comes to WoW since the games Blizzard have previously made were of different genres. By the way, I don't recall Lost Vikings and Blackthrone ever having PvP. If Blizzard wanted to, WoW could have been strictly a single player rpg much like Diablo with multiplayer elements or it could have been a single player adventure much like Starcraft: Ghost (Which does not contain PvP, btw.) PvP is nice but keep in mind that all Blizzard games also give the option not to PvP. Its called the Campaign mode.

I also wonder what you are doing in forums devoted to strictly PvE MMOs for opinions of PvP gamers. Thats like going to a vegan store asking for opinions of which meat is more better: pork or beef. Seriously, it doesn't make much sense.

Anyways, whatever malice or hate that you towards people here, you really need to quit it. You want a more respectful responce I advice you to start respect others then. Whenever some person states something you don't agree with, you flame them. This is every single time. I could care less if you have any points but if you can't get your point across respectfully, no one will take you seriously.

Edited, Sat Sep 18 23:25:33 2004 by Redmoonxl
#7 Sep 18 2004 at 11:21 PM Rating: Decent
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*snore*

Too much arguing and not enough insulting.


I want to see you both curse your brains out! Go!
#8 Sep 18 2004 at 11:46 PM Rating: Decent
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Argueing on a forum is pointless. You should just go outside and wash your car right before it rains. They both expend energy, accomplish nothing, and make you look stupid to your neighbors.
#9 Sep 19 2004 at 2:32 AM Rating: Good
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/sigh

Saying "PvP doesn't belong in an mmorpg" is an opinion.

No amount of Blizzard quotes is going to prove anyone's opinion as wrong.


#10 Sep 19 2004 at 8:56 AM Rating: Decent
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I dont see anything wrong with pvp in the pve servers. Infact I avoided pvp in other mmos. However, after going into a major raid in wow made me crave pvp. Only being lv 10 and kill a fleeing hurt lv 25 warrior was fun. catching other players my lv and taking em down was sweet. Dying by 1 hit kills from lv 30+ chars was funny (what was i thinking).
All in all that huge group we went weith all had fun, no one cussed, everyone enjoyed the battle.(funny it took place close to a cities graveyard).
Btw this was the only time i ever engaged pvp in the whole time i played stress test. I had alot of pve content to play.

I still wonder what your crying about. Theres still not alot of pvp content. infact the games flooding with pve material.

where are you trying to get with this thread (to the poster)?
#11 Sep 19 2004 at 9:16 AM Rating: Default
I thought the Battlefields were the only thing that will have PvP in a PvE server, Too me it sounds like fun, if you have to do a quest which involves going there, you'll have to watch yoru back every minute, but if you don't like PVP at all, you can try and just hide from any enemy you see, or stay close to a group of players on your faction
#12 Sep 19 2004 at 10:15 AM Rating: Decent
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Where is that quote from? I'm curious to know the context.
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#13 Sep 19 2004 at 11:00 AM Rating: Default
The reason why i'm in these forums is because i use to post in the Allakhazam forums and then i came here. If you don't want me here your going to have to suck it up because i don't plan on leaving until release of the game. Ah thats the beauty of main forums avoiding this. I did not disrespect anyone in these boards besides you and Creamed. I was actually flamed to bits because of an argument that was between you and me.
Well anyways back to the point i don't just like PvP in MMOs. I like the fact that you can interact with people in your guild and how you fight different monsters and explore areas. You seem to think that i'm obsessed with PvP, i guess the reason why it looks like i do is because i use to play a pure PvP MMO called Planetside. It's not like anyone here is not guilty of liking elements from other MMOs and comparing them to WoW. But of course when it's PvP in MMOs it has to be bad.
I actually haven't flamed anybody when i don't agree i do give constructive criticism but i don't argue.
I don't really care if these forums are for PvE only because i'm here and you can deal with it. As for taking me seriously, are you serious. Have you read the stuff you post you try to be funny and you make jokes and call me names like poopyhead and your talking about me being taken seriously. Thats funny because making jokes and calling people kiddie insults doesn't bring a valuable argument or make you look good. So don't try to correct me when you need to start with yourself.
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