Wrath, Your Honest Opinion.Follow

This is definitely where we disagree the most. Maybe you play a class where the glyphs aren't that huge, but the ones for the DK class can potentially completely change a rotation.

And it isn't only raiders that change out glyphs. Casuals will, when they respec (especially if they didn't get Dual Spec). PvPers will. The only people who won't are ones that never respec to any new tree. I get so many PuG members for heroics that tell me they've recently respecced from another tree, that I'm sure the system is still being used often.

And, yes, not EVERY glyph is going to make you money. You are going to be making it *primarily* on the ones that people need the most when respeccing, and those are the ones that sell for 75G (and can next to nothing to make, btw).

If you are trying to make money off of the glyphs that a level 80 won't use, you aren't going to do as well. While levelers buy glyphs, you have to remember how long it takes to get another slot. 80s are the ones buying most of them. So a glyph that buffs an ability that isn't generally used at cap isn't going to sell as well (though, to be completely fair, they cost WAY less to make).

Remember, glyphs are all in one category, but are crafted for a looooooong time. So, yeah, there are ones selling for 7G. But when it takes 2 mageroyal to make it, that's a HUGE profit. And some of those do sell fast. For example, Glyph of Wisdom and Might. A Pally may very easily grab one of these when respeccing, and they are only 75 inscription to make, take 5-15 herbs of MR level, and a piece of parchment. Might sells for 15bid, 20BO on my server. Literally. And all the ones on the AH (besides the one overpriced by 10G) have 48 hours left on their timers (Or, I should say have yet to go down to 24), which suggests others have been bought recently. This single glyph has a profit % of 1000% to 333%, ish, on my server when BUYING mats. And I only checked one of the possible herbs you can use.

Maybe your server just has an awful economy. Don't blame the craft if people on your server drove down glyph prices.

Ditto.

It just read like a troll post. All 5 characters of it.

You could have given Wrath a 1/10. Hell, a 1/1000. Doesn't matter. But this is a forum for general discussion. If you don't want to do it, then GTFO.

Exactly. Not all money is made 6K at a time. I know of people that'll have 100+ glyphs on the AH at a time. As long as they don't have too many of the same one, that's fine. I mean, for DKs alone you could have 9+ major glyphs for sale. For other classes, it is even more because certain ones become more or less desirable as stats change and they work through different content.

As a JC, I have recipes that can sell for 160-200G, yes, and frequently. But the single uncut jewel can cost 120-160G. That's not a lot of profit, and it can be very high risk (all it takes is one idiot to crash the price and I'm out a LOT of money). And the uncut gems, prospected, only have a 4-5% chance to drop (each, but not all have versions that sell that high) from 5 TITANIUM ore. That's 80-100G on my server.

Maybe Inscription won't make you 5K in 10 minutes. But it is pretty damn good for constant money flow, and offers a lot of utility to the player and his alts.

Now, if you want to see a REAL useless profession, check out Engineering sometime. I'm starting to think Blizzard hates them.

So do you think you could practice this?

Instead of rating down, asking why? what I think was wrong with Wrath?
Or just hide behind you colour until you are called out?

The reasons I give it a low rating is due to the balancing issues bewtween not only classes, but specs within the classes. I know that the game was designed as a PvE game with PvP thrown into the mix after, and balance has been an issue pretty much since day one, but I feel it has now got to a point of no return. So why should PvE suffer because of a small minority of PvPers that claim the burst damage of certain specs is too high for arena(possibly the least played part of the game).

Blizz didn't make it easy on themselves TBH, 10 classes, 3 trees each, PVP and PVE. So that's 60 different things they have to try to balance...it's not realy going to happen.

The new Battlegrounds just seem to get worse and worse, I hardly know anyone that will go into SoTA or IoC.

On the upside, I do like the way some of the more obselete classes during TBC have been given a chance to shine (My little Boomkin for one).

I'm looking forward to Cata to see how they address many of the current problems, and hope they can be resolved without gimping every class to satisfy a minority.

Edited, Nov 20th 2009 7:07pm by redbarronthesecond

I've stayed out of this thread for awhile because I've been reading through getting everyone opinions on this.

From what I've gathered it seems...

Wrath has been great to those that were new to the game. It is much friendlier to the casual players. Raiding opportunities have increased dramatically for those who have a tighter schedule or cannot commit to raiding schedules. Adding 10 man content only increased this. The storyline pertains heavily to the quests and the actual expansion. Most people seem to agree on this.

Most people seem to agree that they like that Blizzard has been changing some of their interface issues, adding in certain features that once were only able to be done with an addon.

PvP seems to have mixed directions. Some people like the way things are now and some people seem to not, this is just like I had expected.

I do find it interesting that most people who raided heavily in BC (myself included) do not like both t7 and t9, but have mixed feelings on t8. A majority of them seem to think that raiding is tuned to easy.

I like hearing what you guys have to say, keep it up!

Could you imagine how long threads would be if no one would ever explain themselves until after someone asked? It would be so confusing...

Edited, Nov 20th 2009 4:59pm by idiggory

***** measuring can be interesting, though in a very different way. >:D

Prove it.

I'm not one to really stray away from derailing a thread, but could you please both stop.

This thread has real interest to me and I don't want to sift through the epeen.

I do like a good epeen bout now and again, but just not in this thread.

It's cool, I reported your account as a sock, so I'm sure the admin staff will have fun finding by tracking your IP address for both of your accounts.


Now, back to the thread of how we discuss Wrath.

I thought of another pro today, due to a discussion on the Hunter boards about pets.

I really like a lot of the new NPC models. I especially thought the Oracles, Frenzyheart and Kalu'ak were well designed. The Aesir and Vanir were good, too. And magnataur were some of the most imposing enemies I had seen in a loooooong time when Wrath launched (when I first saw one, I just assumed it would be elite until I clicked on it).

I thought you were leaving. You got us all excited...

And, Sorry Arex, but it has been 3 hours with no new replies anyway...