Hey everyone. I have a 23, almost 24 ranger. I dual wield a polished steel kris with a pristine imbued carbonite sabre. I use the bow I got from the ranger quest with summoned carbonite arrows. I also have catacomb sludge and blight of the evening (high dot lv20 poisons). I'm not gunna list all my armor, but generally I think it's decent: not too bad, but certainly not high end. Soloing has gotten kinda slow for me, but is not too bad. I like how I get so many more chests per level. However, I heard someone say that low level rangers can quad kite whites. I was just wondering if anyone knows what this tactic specifically consists of, or the thread/website where it is explained. Also, any general suggestions on how to solo more effectively would be appreciated. I typically pull with a back shot adept1>(back up)>impede>open shot>(stand still)>wounding arrow>HOs. Thanks for the help.
Edited, Wed Jul 27 13:57:28 2005 by Nalwyen
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Basically, kiting is a technique where you pull and snare the mob and then run away from it staying just out of melee range, (so that it can't hit you), while you pepper it with damage till it dies. The name comes from the image of pulling a kite on the end of a string. Quad kiting just means that you are doing this with 4 mobs at a time.
Quad kiting was/is popular in EQ, (the original), for druids, (and rangers?), because of a line of AoE, (Area of Effect), DoT, (Damage over Time), spells that would lay damage across up to 4 mobs at once.
I don't know of any comparable ranged spells in EQ2 and haven't heard of anyone quad kiting here. I have a feeling that what you heard was just fanciful boasting! If you "heard" it in /ooc, I'll bet that's what it was!
It would take a lot of concentration, a lot of time, a lot of open ground and a LOT of arrows to take down 4 mobs with nothing but ranged fire.
At lvl 26 I am well geared and often take on single whites and yellows with ease. I pull with archery, run and shoot while the mob is incoming then HO & slice and dice till death do us part! I can handle adds with this technique but I don't think I am up to the task of quad kiting anything over greens! But maybe that's just me!
This is a fine pattern and should get the job done on a wide selection of mobs. If you're not getting killed and you're having fun, I wouldn't change a thing!
Quad kiting was/is popular in EQ, (the original), for druids, (and rangers?), because of a line of AoE, (Area of Effect), DoT, (Damage over Time), spells that would lay damage across up to 4 mobs at once.
I don't know of any comparable ranged spells in EQ2 and haven't heard of anyone quad kiting here. I have a feeling that what you heard was just fanciful boasting! If you "heard" it in /ooc, I'll bet that's what it was!
It would take a lot of concentration, a lot of time, a lot of open ground and a LOT of arrows to take down 4 mobs with nothing but ranged fire.
At lvl 26 I am well geared and often take on single whites and yellows with ease. I pull with archery, run and shoot while the mob is incoming then HO & slice and dice till death do us part! I can handle adds with this technique but I don't think I am up to the task of quad kiting anything over greens! But maybe that's just me!
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Also, any general suggestions on how to solo more effectively would be appreciated. I typically pull with a back shot adept1>(back up)>impede>open shot>(stand still)>wounding arrow>HOs.
This is a fine pattern and should get the job done on a wide selection of mobs. If you're not getting killed and you're having fun, I wouldn't change a thing!
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It was actually on an allakhazam thread I was reading where someone mentioned "a great guide for kiting four even mobs at once somewhere here on allakhazam" So I was hoping that someone here may know what he was talking about, since he said that it was explained here.
Thanks for the lesson on kiting too...It was kinda funny to read, having done it so much in eq. However, higher level druid kiting was more based on aoe nukes rather than dots. Specifically, I think the spell was called lightning blast. To conserve mana and decrease downtime, I used a lower level dot that was a right click proc on some vambraces I had. Besides keeping up tangle(slow) it was extreemly simple, but required a ridiculous amount of time spent to gain substantial xp. So far, I have not run into the same experience in eq2, and I have to say that I do enjoy eq2 more. And as for your uncertainty about rangers quad kiting in eq, they couldn't. They certainly could kite by using ensnare, and shooting the mob full of holes. However as a hybrid class, I found it most efficient to mix some melee in. This was because most of the rangers spells were designed for combat usage (regen, different combat buffs, putting a proc on a weap ect.), and so to make downtime more effective (medding both hp and mp) I would do some of both.
My current soling tactics in eq2 work fine for me. I was just suprised when I saw mention of low level ranger quad kiting, and wanted to find out if it had any validity. So, thanks for your comments. By the way, you seem to answer every single one of the questions I post here.
Edited, Wed Jul 27 13:56:38 2005 by Nalwyen
Thanks for the lesson on kiting too...It was kinda funny to read, having done it so much in eq. However, higher level druid kiting was more based on aoe nukes rather than dots. Specifically, I think the spell was called lightning blast. To conserve mana and decrease downtime, I used a lower level dot that was a right click proc on some vambraces I had. Besides keeping up tangle(slow) it was extreemly simple, but required a ridiculous amount of time spent to gain substantial xp. So far, I have not run into the same experience in eq2, and I have to say that I do enjoy eq2 more. And as for your uncertainty about rangers quad kiting in eq, they couldn't. They certainly could kite by using ensnare, and shooting the mob full of holes. However as a hybrid class, I found it most efficient to mix some melee in. This was because most of the rangers spells were designed for combat usage (regen, different combat buffs, putting a proc on a weap ect.), and so to make downtime more effective (medding both hp and mp) I would do some of both.
My current soling tactics in eq2 work fine for me. I was just suprised when I saw mention of low level ranger quad kiting, and wanted to find out if it had any validity. So, thanks for your comments. By the way, you seem to answer every single one of the questions I post here.
Edited, Wed Jul 27 13:56:38 2005 by Nalwyen
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Since the operative word here is LOW LEVEL quad kiting, i'd like to say that it absolutely IS possible, and not difficult at all provided there are no casters in the group. Yes the EQ2 combat system says if you can hit them, they can hit you, but this isnt entirely true. While they can hit you with normal attacks (which amount to squat damage-wise at low levels), they cant hit you with any melee special abilities or skills. Why? Because since you are constantly moving away, and the mobs in eq2 ALWAYS stop moving when they cast a spell/melee skill, by the time they finish you are out of range and take no damage.
Occaisionaly they will get a hit with a skill here or there, but thus far I almost always walk away from a 4 mob white encounter with at least half health left. But yeah, as Blue stated, this is not time or cost effective as it does take a while and alot of arrows. Not very useful for grinding for sure.
Edited, Thu Aug 11 18:52:26 2005 by horologe
Edited, Thu Aug 11 19:01:07 2005 by horologe
Occaisionaly they will get a hit with a skill here or there, but thus far I almost always walk away from a 4 mob white encounter with at least half health left. But yeah, as Blue stated, this is not time or cost effective as it does take a while and alot of arrows. Not very useful for grinding for sure.
Edited, Thu Aug 11 18:52:26 2005 by horologe
Edited, Thu Aug 11 19:01:07 2005 by horologe
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I just dinged 20 and pull by using hunt and then shadow blade. This usually takes down a good chunk of enemy hp then I finish off with melee~H/O.
I don't like the bow as much in EQII as I did in the original game. I will keep trying..I'm sure I haven't been patient enough with it yet.
I can usually solo up to yellows and a couple of reds here and there. My armor and weapons are not twinked by any means.
All things considered I enjoy playing EQII much more than the original game. I like more opportunities for solo play that this game provides.
I don't like the bow as much in EQII as I did in the original game. I will keep trying..I'm sure I haven't been patient enough with it yet.
I can usually solo up to yellows and a couple of reds here and there. My armor and weapons are not twinked by any means.
All things considered I enjoy playing EQII much more than the original game. I like more opportunities for solo play that this game provides.
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I just dinged 20 and... I don't like the bow as much in EQII as I did in the original game.
That's because you just dinged 20! If you went ranger, give yourself a little time and some levels to grow into your profession. It gets better, trust me... much better!
Trick shot, hidden shot, triple shot, flaming shot, miracle shot... the list goes on and on and the attacks just get better and better. Even back shot (your only good trick atm), gets better with age.
At lvl 27, I currently do about 260 dmg with backshot, and that is inate dmg with carbonite arrows - before poison and without the bow proc!
Trust me on this, there is nothing in the world better than watching the mob's health drop into the yellow before he even turns to charge at you. Nothing!
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I took some tips from this thread like using poisons. Right now though my ranged skill is pathetic so its gonna take some time before I see some results. Thanks for the help all!
Best bet to run up your bow skill is to get into a small group that is only taking on solo targets and ask them if you can practice your ranged. If you can add yourself onto a duo that is a tank/healer or DPS/healer, they won't really need for you to be outputting max damage so they can afford to let you practice. Tell them you don't want any drops and that you just need to build skills, that will make it even more attractive to them! Good luck, ranger!
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