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#152 Aug 21 2015 at 4:43 PM Rating: Good
No, I did not :(
#153 Aug 21 2015 at 7:34 PM Rating: Good
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Just to chime in, 1.0's characters were not a direct copy and paste. They underwent a thorough database conversion like everything else. Your path companion was lost. Your retainers were lost. All your stuff was lost and the Calamity Salvager had it. You began in starter gear. Your soul stones were lost; you had to re-learn how to be a black mage or a paladin.

1.0 characters were transformed, just like the game client, game engine, and game server design. Some parts of 1.0 characters were completely lost - all your in-game achievements were blown away and SE has hemmed and hawed about returning them, because I suspect they lost the data. Some titles were saved, and your character's basic appearance, but that's about it.

Edited, Aug 21st 2015 5:49pm by Catwho


While true, my male hyur alt from 1.0 can't actually be recreated in 2.0's engine - Yoshida stated the data values still exist (in order for the conversion to even happen) but you can't select them, just like my, as they called it in 1.0, Charcoal kitty still existed through beta until launch. Even though I shouldn't, but the developer in me makes me curious so I looked into some of the data and it's not that they were lost, they simply have them masked out for whatever reason. This is why you have to contact GM/SE support to get them restored because they don't want to spend time unmasking it.

While there are lore reasons to some, a lot of it was simply because he didn't want to give 1.x players too large of an advantage and force us to see the new quest/job storyline. For example, me being a DRG that already dealt with mr. notcain and his pet drake at the time as well as taking out Ifrit (whom originally was more of a living thing than 2.x seem to really showcase) and so on..was all suddenly lost due to plot convienence amnesia on who you are. Even the new storyline kinda had that going kinda. Same with our path companions. while a lot of them died, they were tossed aside for the largely useless chocobo companion (no offense to any who likes it..but..) I mean comparing XI's trust magic and the NPCs in XIV...Trusts are far superior and yoshi should look at it. Maybe not make it an alter ego, but the mechanics has a lot more promise since they gave the bosses the gambit system chocos were supposed to have.

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#154 Aug 22 2015 at 8:04 AM Rating: Good
They are apparently looking at a Trust system but on a FC basis. So like, your FC can have a bank of NPCs to pull in to fill out content you want to clear at cap (or need to clear at cap, like the 60 stuff.) Static short a bard? Grab the FC's NPC bard. That sort of thing.
#155 Aug 22 2015 at 8:20 AM Rating: Good
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They are apparently looking at a Trust system but on a FC basis. So like, your FC can have a bank of NPCs to pull in to fill out content you want to clear at cap (or need to clear at cap, like the 60 stuff.) Static short a bard? Grab the FC's NPC bard. That sort of thing.


Interesting, where you getting that info from?
#156 Aug 22 2015 at 8:22 AM Rating: Decent
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That would be good for certain content, especially the upcoming FC Airship stuff which apparently you can do solo as it revolves around 'hard battles'.

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Catwho wrote:
They are apparently looking at a Trust system but on a FC basis. So like, your FC can have a bank of NPCs to pull in to fill out content you want to clear at cap (or need to clear at cap, like the 60 stuff.) Static short a bard? Grab the FC's NPC bard. That sort of thing.


Interesting, where you getting that info from?


Something they mentioned ages ago and tonight on stream kind of.

Edited, Aug 22nd 2015 7:23am by Theonehio
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#157 Aug 22 2015 at 8:30 AM Rating: Excellent
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Must have missed it after I passed out. X.x

Anyways... I find that hilarious if true. Cause honestly, that's what my FC is going to do for RPs where they go dungeon delving or combat and we don't have enough people of various roles to fill the bill.

Now... we can use actual NPCs that fit with our mechanics when that comes out. *laugh*
#158 Aug 22 2015 at 1:11 PM Rating: Good
Catwho wrote:
They are apparently looking at a Trust system but on a FC basis. So like, your FC can have a bank of NPCs to pull in to fill out content you want to clear at cap (or need to clear at cap, like the 60 stuff.) Static short a bard? Grab the FC's NPC bard. That sort of thing.


They can do what PSO2 does where you can call copies of your friends and they behave based on how they set up their own NPC selves.
#159 Aug 22 2015 at 1:48 PM Rating: Good
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Catwho wrote:
They are apparently looking at a Trust system but on a FC basis. So like, your FC can have a bank of NPCs to pull in to fill out content you want to clear at cap (or need to clear at cap, like the 60 stuff.) Static short a bard? Grab the FC's NPC bard. That sort of thing.


So who do you yell at when the group fails a DPS check because of the NPC? Smiley: grin
#160 Aug 22 2015 at 3:22 PM Rating: Excellent
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Catwho wrote:
They are apparently looking at a Trust system but on a FC basis. So like, your FC can have a bank of NPCs to pull in to fill out content you want to clear at cap (or need to clear at cap, like the 60 stuff.) Static short a bard? Grab the FC's NPC bard. That sort of thing.


So who do you yell at when the group fails a DPS check because of the NPC? Smiley: grin


You yell in the official forums that NPC parsers should be introduced.
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#161 Aug 22 2015 at 7:49 PM Rating: Decent
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Was there clarification on the extent that you could use the NPCs to in capped content? I haven't kept up so it may have changed, but I thought the trust system in XI was a little limited in that you couldn't call them in certain battlefields?

I guess it would be interesting to have NPCs in capped content, but I'm not sure what that says about the skill needed to clear it Smiley: wink

Edited, Aug 22nd 2015 11:10pm by FilthMcNasty
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Its personal preference and all, but yes we need to educate WoW players that this is OUR game, these are Characters and not Toons. Time to beat that into them one at a time.
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