Nashred wrote:
Exactly he got attacked based on opinions.
If you're talking about lass5, I don't agree. It's not always about what you say. More often, it's about how you say it.
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If you're talking about lass5, I don't agree. It's not always about what you say. More often, it's about how you say it.
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In my case, I have a really solid group of people to play with. We're not BG level but we're pretty close. Anything the game throws at us, we can figure out a way to defeat. Usually with 7-8 people. Illsaide just came back too so yay!
Without any macros! And the tendency for my PC to say "isn't it time for Java to update itself?" and kick me off at inconvenient times. But I can chat with the best of them!
And before anyone says "why not let Java update?" it's because to remote desktop into work, I need the old Java; the application is old enough that new Java designates it as 'unsafe' and it won't work with an updated version of Java. I kind of need to be able to RDP on it.
You can disable Java auto-updates. It's in the Java control panel under the Update tab.
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If random outcomes aren't acceptable to you, then don't play with random people.
Nashred wrote:
Montsegurnephcreep wrote:
lass5 wrote:
Do you guys realize how panicky and defensive you look right now lol?
A couple posts mention in passing about FFXI being a good bang for your buck right now, and you go to town bashing it, maneuvering to get off the topic off the $25 FFXIV horses.
Well, at least for now, $E hasn't installed a cash shop into FFXI, and sorry, but Mizuta is an artist - Soken is a (bad) impressionist. So those are at least 2 things FFXI has on FFXIV even so many years later. But no there is no competition.
Edited, Oct 28th 2014 5:07pm by lass5
A couple posts mention in passing about FFXI being a good bang for your buck right now, and you go to town bashing it, maneuvering to get off the topic off the $25 FFXIV horses.
Well, at least for now, $E hasn't installed a cash shop into FFXI, and sorry, but Mizuta is an artist - Soken is a (bad) impressionist. So those are at least 2 things FFXI has on FFXIV even so many years later. But no there is no competition.
Edited, Oct 28th 2014 5:07pm by lass5
No one's really bashed XI here. Some have said the music was repetitive and some zones had no music. That's it. Then someone said they have no time for 2 mmo's, then another said it gets frequent updates. Music is almost 100% opinion, there's a reason there's hundreds of genres out there that several different people listen to. What I get out of a certain song is probably not what you'll get out of it, and that goes for XI vs XIV.
Most of the bashing has been Yoshi-P, DRK, Cash shop, XIV's "bland" areas, etc I can assure you 95% of the forum users here played XI, for a long time, a very very long time. Some have even gone back, some are even contemplating going back. But we allll want to bash it.
Exactly he got attacked based on opinions... Cheerleaders to me sometimes are worse than trolls sometimes.. First is he trolling? sure but he is making fun of it because the cheerleaders panties are all in a bunch over it... Cheerleaders are making worse by throwing fuel on the fire.
Honestly this thread has gone far enough when people attack someone over opinion.. This is starting to feel like the official forums.
Edited, Oct 29th 2014 9:17am by Nashred
Most people were PRETTY reasonable except for that Hynamen guy who is just (IMO) a little bit kooky. Even by page 1 of this thread he managed to say that FFXIV team develops more content for their game than "99.9% of all games" and then he compared the gaming industry to Islamic terrorist beheaders, and even I checked out at that point with him! Lolz.
I don't know why people can't say "I love FFXIV in general, but I HATE this cash shop move!" Some people can but a lot of people think they gotta defend the whole package or nothing. IMO Thayos hates the cash shop for example and won't admit it (sorry just my opinion). Like, "I hate this cash shop, but I love this dev team, so I'm gonna go easy on them."
Edited, Oct 29th 2014 12:26pm by lass5
lass5 wrote:
Even by page 1 of this thread he managed to say that FFXIV team develops more content for their game than "99.9% of all games"
Your butthurt aside... if this isn't true, then provide us some examples
Edited, Oct 29th 2014 4:31pm by Hyanmen
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I don't know why people can't say "I love FFXIV in general, but I HATE this cash shop move!" Some people can but a lot of people think they gotta defend the whole package or nothing. IMO Thayos hates the cash shop for example and won't admit it (sorry just my opinion). Like, "I hate this cash shop, but I love this dev team, so I'm gonna go easy on them."
I don't hate the cash shop. That doesn't mean that I like it, though. I'd rather there be no cash shop at all. I don't like the bickering in the community, and I'm not a fan of the gaming industry's entire micro-transaction movement. However, this cash shop simply doesn't interfere with how I play the game, nor does it contain anything I'd want to pay for. So, in the end, I'm mostly indifferent to it. I'm definitely not angry or upset about it... and if I were that upset, I'd take a break from the game (and the forums, other than lurking to see what's new).
If this is how the cash shop stays for the long haul -- with very few cash-exclusive items, and everything else available in-game before going into the shop -- then yeah, I think SE probably got this about as "right" as a P2P/RMT hybrid model could possibly be.
Of course, my feelings could change depending on how the cash shop changes in the future.
This isn't just this forum, but sometimes the "typical" forum-user mindset is that something has to be really, really awesome or really, really terrible. If you don't hate something, you're labeled a fan boy. If you don't love something, you're labeled troll. It's kind of a manic way of thinking, and I just don't get it.
Edited, Oct 29th 2014 9:50am by Thayos
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Sorry but I'm not going to reply to someone who says
while Americans are getting captured and beheaded by those wack jobs.
Then using terms like
Maybe someone will take your troll bait on the official forums.
Hyanmen wrote:
the rest of the industry is ISIS.
while Americans are getting captured and beheaded by those wack jobs.
Then using terms like
Hyanmen wrote:
Your butthurt
Maybe someone will take your troll bait on the official forums.
lass5 wrote:
Sorry but I'm not going to reply to someone who says
while Americans are getting captured and beheaded by those wack jobs.
Hyanmen wrote:
the rest of the industry is ISIS.
while Americans are getting captured and beheaded by those wack jobs.
I've never seen someone get this upset over an analogy. Of course getting upset over words in the internet is a good ending to a thread filled with your drama... so it makes sense in a way.
Edited, Oct 29th 2014 6:54pm by Hyanmen
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You can disable Java auto-updates. It's in the Java control panel under the Update tab.
I am not entirely sure why I had to open Java in a specific way to get to the Update tab, but thanks for this tip!
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