Do you thin Nexus is the nmost laziest relic update yet?Follow

Yes, indeed! Please don't misunderstand, criticism is essential in all things, otherwise we'd all still be listening to N*Sync and wearing Jnco pants. If you can't be an instrument of change, if it's evident that what you want to change will not, then change what you are doing.

Oddly though, I don't think the term "Nexus Weapon" is a cause worthy of a letter-writing campaign.

1) They won't change it anyway;
2) It's a fine name;
3) Duo complains to complain. I feel like anyone else posting this might be met with conversation (which I guess isn't totally fair to him) but it always just seems like a wolf is attacking his sheep.


Edited, Oct 17th 2014 8:53am by Louiscool

Lets seem Atma books required you to do a certain number of fates (which you had to camp) kill certain mobs and do certain dungeons, and every books list was different or mix and matched and some way so you werent doing the same exact thing over and over, alex maps were always a surprise as you didnt know what monster you were gonna get, not only that they took seconds to kill.

That sounds a lot more fun than killing garuda/titan/ifrit HM over and over back to back all day 1000 timesm, heck I bet yo ucould get all of a primals weapon drops for EACH member of your party and still woldnt be halfway done with nexus.

In fact I just looked it up, you need 2000 light to complete nexus, the highest you can get is 10 in S Tower, that means you need to do 200 S tower runs to complete Nexus, S tower takes about 30 mins, thats 100 hours work of S Tower runs.... thats not fun... thats mind numbing, I can beat and platinum a Final Fantasy XIII game in that time.. you know, something that wouldnt consist of doing the exact same thing over and over for 100 hours


Edited, Oct 18th 2014 11:36am by DuoMaxwellxx

First off, you get a minimum of 12 light from an ST run and 16 if it's in the bonus. Not a huge difference, but still.

Now, I think the Nexus step sucks and as more and more people actually get to it this step will become most people's least favorite (barring changes). That being said... you don't have to do it. There's nothing saying that you absolutely, positively must have a Nexus weapon. Seriously, why kill yourself doing something you hate?
-If you're worried about having the highest ilvl weapon in the game, it's not like the relics are the only option there... they haven't been since extreme primals were introduced way back when. There's always been an alternative path to getting a weapon equal in ilvl, so just go that route.
-If you're worried about missing out on the rest of the relic questline, well yeah, you will, but you'll still be able to get a weapon equally as powerful through some other means in 2.4(Shiva? Tomestones?).
-If you're worried about being a completionist, ok, fine... go with an alternate weapon and work at a leisurely pace on the nexus light farming when you have some free time. It's not a race.
-If you're worried about the secondary stats being better than anything offered on the other comparable weapons... meh, we're talking about a pretty neglible difference here that's not worth killing you about.
-If you're worried about what others might think of you... who cares? The few times I'm seen someone with a Nexus weapon my response hasn't been "OMG WOW!", it's been "That person clearly has a ton of free time on their hands". Nobody will care if you have a Nexus or not.

It's the same thing I tell fellow FC members when they're getting ticked at farming atmas or doing animus books - stop. Don't make yourself miserable. Work towards a soldiery weapon or a Ramuh weapon instead. Nobody will care and you won't drive yourself crazy. Relics are an option, not the be all end all.

It is awful. Can't decide which I hate worse, Nexus grind or Atma grind. I crossed 1400 today, if I can tough it out another week and I can get this done and out of the way.

The thing I hate most about the recent relic quests is the amount of work we need to put in to them does add up to the length of their usefulness. With the gear constantly progressing, weapons become obsolete pretty quickly. Unless the weapon is going to be useful for a long time, the huge grind required of this is pointless. I understand Yoshi wanted to draw out the quest more and not be completed in a day like the original relic. But imo, they went too far to the other extreme.

I put a ton of money into my old car's gas tank, maintenance, upkeep, etc but that doesn't mean that a) I didn't buy a new and better car eventually and b) any of that was related to the actual value of the old car. It's like the people you see on Pawn Stars who ask for 2-3x the value of what it's actually worth because of what they perceive they put into it. It doesn't work that way.

Congratulations, you put a bunch of time and effort into your relic weapon. If you're like me you got almost a year of non-stop use out of it. I'd say that's pretty good bang for my buck even if I decide to upgrade along a different path and never use it again.

Found it: Escalation of Commitment/Sunk Cost Fallacy.

"the phenomenon where people justify increased investment in a decision, based on the cumulative prior investment, despite new evidence suggesting that the cost, starting today, of continuing the decision outweighs the expected benefit."

You're cool, though!

Edited, Oct 19th 2014 10:48am by Raylo

There two path to get end-game weapon currently.

1) do high level coil and get drop (faster but need a good team and lot of skill)
2) do relic upgrade. (easier, but takes very long)

That way, FFXIV provide content for all type of player. If you don't like the grind of atma/book/Alexandrite/Light, then please do coil. People would like to have a end-game weapon for free, but then would complain that it's too easy.

I like the Nexus step, it give the extra incentive to player to help others in their duty and get some progress at the same time. My FC never been so active and helping to newer/lower player. I think it's a great step for the community.


Edited, Oct 22nd 2014 11:18am by Pryssant

Good in theory, but in practice, it is not working that way. Reality is people forming Nexus farm parties to get light in an efficient manner. If they wanted Nexus farmers to help, then they should give a light bonus to help first timers through these instances.