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He's explaining why he believes P2P is better for ARR... nothing more.

You're reading WAY too much into it. As I've now pointed out, he's not only expressed his openness to F2P, but also his acceptance of other payment models, too.

He can be open to F2P, but still have opinions as to why he prefers P2P for ARR... you know that, right?

EDIT: If you're so determined to prove that he's anti-F2P, why not search for an article in which you don't need to snip out parts of what he said in order to piece together a point? If he's truly against F2P, you should be able to find an article in which he comes right out and says it.

Edited, Mar 20th 2014 7:56pm by Thayos

Lucas, please cite a source... because without a source, you're just making stuff up.

Here's what he said:



He says absolutely nothing about Star Wars being a "piece of crap."

Troll harder!

Edited, Mar 20th 2014 7:59pm by Thayos

Ageist on the internet? Absolutely. I was ageist when I was 17 on CompuServe. I quickly gave up on "Teen Spirit" chat because it was full of obnoxious teenagers who could not spell. Instead I wandered over to Dreamscape, a pay to play by the hour virtual world. I was limited to $20 a month, or ten hours, until they went to a flat rate when EQ came out.

The fee ensured that the population was calm, polite, and mature. Waaaaaaaay better than all the free virtual worlds coming out, full of ******** and harassers.

So yeah. It IS like a club to me, albeit cheaper than a country club. Because most players I am friends with in this game, as in XI, are not jerks.

Catwho, I'll let you borrow my FilthMcNasty Lifetime Achievement Award.

I don't think his attitude has changed at all. He clearly prefers P2P, but he's open to F2P under the right circumstances.

He's been pretty consistent.

And, I think you and I probably actually agree on what we're both attempting to say. We're just highlighting different parts of what we agree on.

I just realized I have spent half my life in one virtual world or another now.

Not sure if amazed or horrified.

I've used the term "P2P snobbery" before in topics like this, and the quoted is pretty much why. You are not a better person or player because you choose to pay in advance as opposed to upon feeling satisfied with your experience. As well, I'm inclined to say Cat's comment that subs weed out the immature brats is also not really true to a significant degree.

So, before we jump back to the, "But the pay walls! I HATES them!" defense, I will again reiterate that more recent games include in-game methods to both never have to spend a dime, but also fare cheaper than a yearly sub for the occasional "must buy" that does spring up like a new class, set of zones/dungeons, or whatever. Why people are okay with this under the "expansion" label every couple years or so boggles my mind, lest I remind some how grossly incomplete the XI expansions were upon their respective releases.

Concerns of RMT spam, of course, are valid and SE never could seem to wrap their hands around a stable solution. I'm not one to feel infuriated by the occasional spam tell, but I do agree what they could pull off in shouts in this game is utterly ridiculous. But this is when you start looking into intelligent, easing restrictions. People probably don't need to use shout more than once a minute. Characters who haven't completed a certain quest probably shouldn't be able to send a tell unless it's in reply to someone else or they're on your friend's list. Bots may still be able to work around them slowly, but the hassle makes it so the occurrences of spam do diminish. Them restricting how many characters you can create in a day was a step in the right direction, as an example, but it's true jacked accounts will likely "meet" requirements, too. That's when more active stuff like player reporting and on-the-clock GMs can fill in the gaps.

Looks like retainer fee is $2 according to live letter. Not bad.

Hey, I love children!

Just don't like spending my free time with them.

I think this P2P+cash shop dependance thing will definitely get rid of them though if that's what you want.

Kids can get the box, and usually manage getting $10 to $15 a month, but once you start asking for tons more money on top of that, it gets out of hand. Keep in mind most kids are used to buying a game box and having online multiplayer come with it.

How many years have you been here at Zam?

I'd daresay you've spent enough time with children to witness them grow up.

Heck, a lot of us have.

Starting to feel old now...

I was fresh out of college, and some of my now FC mates were still in high school, when we started playing FFXI together...

I seriously wonder if some of us will still be gaming together in another decade from now?