Final Fantasy 14 Gold Saucer Development Has Begun Follow

Just forget the Lightning thing (by the way, there are several indicators that she is upcoming in the main story). I'm just saying "wouldn't it be nice?" if they created some kind of new theme park/casino-type area without needing to slap the Gold Saucer name on it. Just a totally new idea that would really impress us.

Something all new that we could remember. If you think Yoshi-P and his development team can't do that, then you're holding them to a lower standard than you would for any other Final Fantasy game, and you're basically saying that they're incompetent.

Edited, Mar 6th 2014 6:12pm by LucasNox

If it was a new idea then why would they call it that?

New game concepts 'would make zero sense'?

It feels like I'm in some bizarro world where everyone happily laps up mediocrity.

Edited, Mar 6th 2014 6:53pm by LucasNox

Lightning is not going to be in the main story. I don't know where you got that from. She came, she did her FATES, she decided she was being tested by someone, and then she went to FFXIII-3 and kicked ***.

Shantotto from XI also has the ability to cross worlds, although the first time in A Shantotto Ascension was an accident from a spell gone wrong.

The only crossover character who doesn't canonically have universe-hopping abilities was the burly dude from DQ who guarded the Puff Puff cave.

Oh right. I'm suggesting that the development team come up with new ideas, so I must only play World of Warcraft and Call of Duty. How dare I ask for any originality whatsoever.

So, basically you're saying that you like the golden saucer idea, just not the name? Also:
If you can't come up with an original idea we will all love, then we must hold you to a lower standard. I'm basically saying that you are incompetent.
Your logic, not mine.

I think I'm burnt out with Zam too. TTFN.

I'm glad you got the joke!

If Lucas thinks this game is nothing but a WoW clone, but he really does like it, but he'd rather have the Final Fantasy references not actually be Final Fantasy references, then why doesn't he just play WoW and spare us all the eyerolling?

This, from earlier in the thread, is also spot-on:



Seriously, this blatant trolling is getting a little out of hand. It's kind of pathetic. Who pays money for a premium membership just to obsess about a game he or she doesn't like and has no actual interest in playing?

And don't worry Filth, I'm not talking about you. We don't always agree, but you clearly use your head (at times).

Edited, Mar 6th 2014 9:21pm by Thayos

None of those games are MMOs. The class system is unique to this MMO. The throwbacks are unique to Final Fantasy.

Whether or not you're for or against the additions, they are unique to the franchise and the reasons why most fans love it.

**Not knocking you Lucas. You make some valid points. I also find it a bit funny coming from a guy with Sora as his avatar. You obviously liked Kingdom Hearts, but you don't like games built on cross-game/franchise additions

Edited, Mar 7th 2014 1:43am by Transmigration

If you've done the Relic quest for Black Mage, you'll find out that many centuries ago a she-devil mage lived called Shantotto, but over the course of time her name got bastardized into Shatotto.

Which would give you the impression that Eorzea and Vana'Diel are essentially the same world split by many hundreds if not thousands of years, while probably not located in the exact same place geographically but another continent as well (since she would be notorious world-wide), it would make sense atleast why so many things are similar. And most of all why she would be able to cross over.

Still, with a healthy dose of Time Magick thrown into the game, there's no telling who or what was actually there. For all we know we end up escaping from something again, traveling back in time and founding Bastok/San d'Oria/Windurst. The three city states here, as well as the ones in FFXI were stated to not be the original homes of the people living there. Depending on how large the world is, it could easily all fit in.

Why, with the 10 minutes it takes to travel from one side to the other, the world as we know it may as well be but a few little islands off the coast somewhere.

That said, long arguement made short. Shantotto definitely has reason and the posibility to be here in our world. Lightning has absolutely no relevance to it. And the Gold Saucer, while perhaps similarly named, cannot and should not bear any resemblance to what we know out of FFVII.

I definitely agree that that was the only good scene. However, I thought the Lalafell receptionist was going to get killed, and I was kinda disappointed that she wasn't (that sounds messed up, but still). I don't remember that judge's name either, but I think it was Livia von Somethingsomething the third. Actually, all of the judge people were incredibly generic in personality.

Actually, between the voice acting and the depth of the writing, your interactions with the judge-looking characters sort of reminds me of Power Rangers. We'll get you Eorzea Ranger!

The story definitely is one of the weak points. Not only are a lot of the character types/relationships taken right out of a typical anime (that's not a good thing), but most of the story itself is also just a tamer, simpler version of the past couple of Final Fantasy games, with worse dialogue.

Also, it's hard to create a story in which the characters travel to the past, because it easily creates a lot of plot holes (which it did).

The other problem was that there was only a couple of voiced scenes.

The other thing is the lack of unique NPCs. Almost all of the main characters in the story are just customized with the standard character creator besides child characters. Overall, I would probably give the story a solid 2/10.

I enjoyed the opening cutscene and a couple of the other cutscenes. However most of it was incredibly, incredibly poorly written/generic. There were no unique ideas and there was no drama. Another problem was the subtitle issue where only one character's subtitles would show at a time. So when you're playing with the Japanese voice track and multiple characters are speaking (often), you get totally confused.

I can count the number of voiced cutscenes on my fingers with some to spare, so it's not that big of an issue, but I'm surprised they didn't notice that not all the dialogue is voiced in their subtitled cutscenes. Maybe they just didn't care.

One other immediate gripe is that scene where you steal the Magitek. The pipsqueak had me steal a Magitek to blend in, and he sticks this BIG, glaring sticker on the side of it, to let everyone know that I'm not one of them. It didn't make sense. After I spent 10 quests collecting clothes to conceal myself using military clothes and a Garlean mount, this pipsqueak basically paints a big bullseye on my head, risking my life and the lives of everyone I'm going in to save.

Edited, Mar 7th 2014 4:26am by LucasNox

Actually, Nero and Livia were two of the more developed characters. Livia's gone, but Spoilerif you've finished the Crystal Tower story then you've learned Nero survived somehow.

I think he falls into the same category as Seymour in X and many other FF characters - the "familiar" villain. The dude you keep encountering and having to fight and deal with over and over again. (As opposed to the "epic" villains, who are distant throughout the story as you try to discern their true nature.) Archduke Kam'lenaut in XI fit this pattern as well.

Edited, Mar 7th 2014 10:25am by Catwho

That is some pretty exclusive spoiler data right there.