2014 and what I do in FFXIV now. How about you?Follow

SWtoR had more than that 1.5 million in it's first few months. If you recall, the most common complaint about that game was the lack of hardcore content.

Subscription numbers are not a valid indicator of which type of content players prefer, especially not when we're talking about the first two months of service. You would have to have a lot more information than this to support that claim Xoie.

Yes, and I didn't use a random fact to prove it. They are both fantasy based MMOs. They have almost identical character models with the addition of male mithra and female galka(both of which FFXI fans asked for I might add). Many of the mobs in XIV are identical(literally) to those found in FFXI. Both games appeal to fans of FF music, lore and storytelling. All of these are valid reasons why someone who would enjoy one game would also enjoy the other.

I'd like to point out that 1.5 million was not the number of subscribers, but rather it was the number of registered users during the first few months. There is a difference. This number includes any account created during 1.0, even those of players who may have never returned to even try ARR as all of those accounts were activated for several weeks. Subsequently, this number was not a measure of how many accounts were active(as in players actively logging in) during those months. This number includes new players who purchased and registered the game, but decided they didn't like the game and did not subscribe. This number also includes people who purchased a second copy of the game so that they could play on both PC and PS3.

Comparing the number of registered users in one game to the number of concurrent subscribers in another doesn't make any sense at all.

I don't know what else I could do to make you understand because even if I quoted SE on their reasons for creating similarities between the two games, you'd still argue for arguments sake. So you win. SE lied about their reasons for the characters looking similar. The mobs are exact skin replicas because the developers are just lazy. SE is aware, just like you apparently, that none of the people who play XIV are/were interested in any of their other games. That's exactly the reason they brought Lightning and Shantotto to Eorzea.

Does this also mean that Catwho is a lie?

That's just what a cake would say.

Some might say Cheesecake during the PotM fiasco. :P

source

The decision was made before the game was released. Female roegadyn and male miqo'te were also suggestions carried over from players in XI who wanted female galka and male mithras. Up to that point, XI was their only source of feedback. You didn't have an opinion about XIV because it didn't exist yet.

GG



Edited, Jan 24th 2014 7:27am by FilthMcNasty

Lord Jebus...

Your problem is that you keep reading too much into who likes or dislikes which feature when you compare the games. Stop comparing the games. Consider for just a moment the timing of these decisions. Hop in my time machine and travel with me back to 2009. There is no opinion of the differences or similarities between XI and XIV because XIV does not yet exist.

Now that we have that out of the way...



Where do these assumptions come from?

As stated, their decision was made to bring familiarity to players of XI. Prospective new players of XIV were not a factor to consider in that decision because there is no way to make someone feel familiar with something when they've never experienced it in the first place. I thought that was obvious.

It is common for companies when developing new products(or upgrading/updating to new similar products) for them to look back on their past experience. When you yourself make a decision, do you ever think back to when you were forced to make a similar decision as a reference? That's exactly what SE did here(and what many of us felt they should've done more of). Prior to Yoshi P coming in to save the day, the development team for XIV was the same team that brought us XI. This was not a coincidence.

Put the demographics down and back away slowly...

Edited, Jan 24th 2014 3:31pm by FilthMcNasty

I never claimed or suggested that the demographics were identical.


Now I'm foolish because you are accusing me of making a claim I never made

Hm just had a realization from some of the posts in this thread.

Those who PUG content seem to spend a considerable amount of time during the week working on goals while those with statics seem to finish content early on and have nothing else to do the rest of the week.

Is this indecisiveness on SE's part? They can't decide whether they want to add more content and forsake the players who cannot log on everyday/have limited playtime or produce content at a slower rate which allows people with limited time to play to not feel left behind.

Right now, it seems like neither side is happy.

To me, the easiest fix would be adding content that either has a huge gated mechanic (I hate this option) or add content that is gruelingly tough so that the hardcore players will be distracted for a while.

Edited, Jan 24th 2014 11:44pm by HitomeOfBismarck

Now, would you like to rephrase that statement?

Edited, Jan 25th 2014 11:57am by Hyanmen

I get my Myth caps on monday... Get a CT drop during that, or atleast try, for my 2nd or 3rd job before tuesday...

Aaaaaaand... well... that's about it. Maybe mine some Darksteel or Gold, craft a thing or two and hope it sells, and stand around a bit hoping someone needs me to meld.

My life isnt very exciting on FFXIV. Nothing like the crapload of things i would do on XI