Wake me when it's 2.2Follow

If there's any way possible for you to get your PS3 wired with an Ethernet cable, I would strongly recommend it. The wireless capabilities of the PS3 are low-end, so you'll experience a huge improvement by switching to a wired LAN connection.

Viertel, don't put words into my mouth.

That is your quote, not mine.

Did you not read my big post about how losing to Titan doesn't make you a bad player?

Perhaps you should actually read all the posts in this thread before cherry picking stuff for your next reply.

EDIT: Yes, this is me being condescending... but you basically begged for it.

Edited, Jan 8th 2014 9:40am by Thayos

Yep, I'm using an SSD for FFXIv as well. I don't know how the load times are if you're using an HDD in your PC or PS3, but I barely have any load times on my PC.

My load screens on my laptop are just as bad as my PS3... that poor little laptop. Plays the game OK at low settings, but yeah, zoning kills it. I don't think it meets the recommended specs, though.

I really think a big part of the problem is people are caught up in when animations appear, which is irrelevant to whether you actually get hit. The only thing that matters is the ability progress bar. A video posted in this thread shows exactly what I'm talking about.

This is a hard fight... Requires skill, precision and practice. Do the fight correctly with an equally capable group, and you will be much more likely to win, assuming you dont catch an unlucky break.

It might not have been your intent, but what roused me to post initially was that "An admin shouldn't be saying such things..." sense tingling. I get that it may **** you off that some use lag as a scapegoat, but it is terribly condescending to say lag is never an issue.

Honestly, I think the best bet is to not even bother trying to do this though the DF, I know its frustrating, but between people trolling, people being under geared, and the fact that the majority of people in DF have already ran this 100 times and failed and are probably already pissed off about it just doesn't make it any easier. Plus, a lot of people in DF are just using it for practice, I know that's pretty much what I did.

In my experience in the DF, if we did make it past the heart stage, everyone starts freaking out like "OMG OMG we made it past heart!11!!!1!1" and start making simple mistakes leading to a wipe. When in reality after heart phase, all you really need to do is survive and keep up steady dps and eventually he will die.

They should add a duty roulette just for Titan that rewards like 100 myth for a win, just to get geared people to go back and run it again.

The one important thing, which someone said above, and yes I know this is harder for healers, is to just constantly keep moving, I play a BLM and this is hard for me also but its what worked for me. And if your mid cast and need to move, just move, its way more important to stay alive then get that one cast off.



Edited, Jan 8th 2014 3:31pm by Jeskradha

Titan for me varies with my level of lag.

What many who talk about lag forget is that lag isn't only dependent on the geographic location, it can vary for the same person on a night to night basis. I remember one of the Titan runs I tried when I was working on my Bravura (third relic). I felt like a total n00b. I was eating plumes left and right, got Landslided off at least once, and had the fun experience of being in the middle of a combo on Titan only to see him vanish and have Geocrush go off -instantly-, nearly killing me.

I left the group in frustration and decided to relax by tanking some Brayflox. And I understood why I was failing at Titan. My teammates were rubberbanding all over, one of the DPS became "frozen" on my screen where he appeared to be clear across the level despite being right with us, and Aiatar was literally TELEPORTING in the boss arena.

The very next night I was doing more Brayflox. Everything was perfectly smooth, and I tanked Aiatar "like a bawss". Rejoined Titan via DF afterwards and, Surprise, he couldn't hit me with anything. I could dodge.

I did relic quests with SMN, SCH, and WAR and one of the things I learned was that I only stood a chance at winning when my own personal lag in Titan was good. If it was a "good night", then he couldn't touch me with anything but Tumults. If it was a "bad night" I'd be dying left and right, and yes, I blamed it on the lag. So I confined my serious, shout groups attempts only to good nights and got all three of my relics without any special difficulty. Beyond the first, anyway, where I had to master the fight and all of that fun stuff.

People by nature, and I mean all people, have a tendency to look upon things they've already achieved as "easy." Because by seeing others struggle it makes them feel superior. Titan's difficulty varies from person to person as a matter of skill, and a matter of gear. But even with those two things accounted for, victory is ultimately left to the blessings of the Server Goddess. And she is a fickle mistress who doesn't always let your team mates see (or not see) the same things that you do.

Like an AOE indicator.

People expect that what they see on screen is accurate because in most games, it's close enough that you can't discern any reasonable difference. Telling someone to ignore what's happening on screen and only pay attention to a progress bar... you might as well just remove the visual cues. It's about the same as in XI where all the cues were worthless because you had to read the chat log to figure out which ability the mob was going to use.

All of this is only complicated by the latency and server communication issues. Even if you do focus solely on the progress bar, there is still no guarantee that the server will check for your position between when you leave the AoE area(visually on screen) and when the effect of the AoE actually processes.

There are several issues affecting people's ability to play properly, not just one.

Edited, Jan 8th 2014 4:44pm by FilthMcNasty

If you removed the visual cues, how would you know when to move? Or to stop moving?

You see the visual cue, and you move. If you're out of the AoE before the progress bar fills, then you're far more than likely going to be unscathed.

What I'm trying to say is that people see the visual cue, and they move... and then they see the visual cue of the mob's ability being carried out, and they get hit... but they're unaware (or not wanting to admit) that they didn't get out of AoE range before the progress bar filled.

Then, they blame it on lag.

Obviously, there is legit lag in this game. There's lag in all online games. But a lot of people mistakenly blame lag for their mistakes in this game. Honestly, I don't know why SE doesn't just have mob abilities fire off the smallest of split seconds before the progress bars fill... then, the abilities going off would reconcile better with the bars filling up, and people wouldn't be so confused about why they're still getting hit.

Edited, Jan 8th 2014 2:14pm by Thayos

All of my clears have been on PS3.

That would work too!

That would also make Titan a little less difficult, but not in a bad way.

The "lag" in the video posted isn't at all what I'm talking about. It's the character stuttering, screen freezing type of stuff that I'm talking about. I only commented on that video to point out that this was NOT an issue of lag, but rather an issue of the cast bar and ability graphical cues being out of sync. Whether or not that's intended or a latency issue is the real question.



Right, because it couldn't possibly be that anyone suffers from lag that causes them to mess up. Like I said, far more often it's just that players were a half second slow moving. But lag definitely causes groups to wipe. I've seen it happen firsthand myself as a tank, watching players stutter across the screen or just freeze and "teleport". Claiming that it's never lag is just silly and wrong. Claiming that it's lag more often than it is is just showcasing players that don't know how to dodge, or don't realize the different between the cast finishing and the animation finishing. It's honestly that simple... the tough part is actually deciphering when people are being honest about lag or just lying to not look bad.