Gil and 2.1Follow

I make about 60k per day just running the roulettes one time per day. The 10 k gil or so from running the dungeons, and 50k from selling potash with the 500 philosophy tomes you get. Doing those 3 roulettes takes me about... An hour and a half to 2 hours depending on the party and dungeons.

A casual coul easily make 20k per day if they wanted just doing the main story roulette. Thats 300 tomes you get which can buy 2 philosophy crafting items.

Im sure though that unless this casual player already has their full darklight, they would rather spend the tomes on the gear. In all honesty, unless you are really impatient and dont want to wait until you get ilvl 90 drops from coil or af2 or CT, you could buy the ilvl 70 crafted items. Besides that, money is pretty worthless at the moment anyway. I havent purchased a single piece of gear for any of my classes besides the ones required for a relic.

Until housing prices come down, i suggest not bothering with gil until there is actually a use for it.

I'd actually say that personal housing would be more for the hardcore players. With a FC, you can work together to raise costs, and costs of furnishings are shared, too.... but a personal house will require all the costs for land/housing/furniture to come from just one person. Plus, having a personal house will be a total e-peen thing.

I'm expecting personal housing to cost more than the average personal contribution would be for FC housing, unless personal housing is super small and simplified.... if it's as cheap as 250k, then everyone will buy a house, and that would seem to require a ton of space and additional server infrastructure.

I don't mind that housing is expensive but I wish they had gone the route of letting us buy affordable land and making the house elements themselves be the expensive part. So as we obtained more gil we could grow the house or something. The fact that we have to choose a smaller plot now or no plot till months later when a small house house that could be expanded would have been satisfying to my FC both now when we build what we can afford and pleasing when we can afford to expand it.

The real problem here is that personal houses will cost money. Not the amount. They should be free. Or at least a plot should. I enjoyed customizing my mog house in FFXI. It cost me money, but it didn't cost me anything to walk into it. And I don't count the "inn" as a "mog house". So instead I am gonna either grind out the 60-70mil i need to fully build a large free company house for me to have all to my self, or if it takes forever then I will just get whatever large house they have for personal use. Either way...it is silly for SE to charge for this. They are only pushing people into RMT's open arms. Especially casuals. I feel for you guys.

No one ever said they wanted it for free. Why do so many people not understand the concept of a middle ground? No one wants to be given anything, many just think the pricing currently is outrageous, which it is. We just want to be able to enjoy the content that SE put in the game, and not have to grind for months on end to obtain it. I'm fully willing to pay for it, and pay what is a reasonable amount. On my server, there are a grand total of THREE houses right now, all small plots. How do these prices make sense when less than 1% of the population can/is willing to afford them? I have a feeling that even come three months from now, there aren't going to be many houses being bought up unless there's an actual reason to get housing by then aside from a social/epeen reasoning... and that is sad.

You make some good points.

I totally bought DL gear for my ALT. I totally blew gil on gear while leveling up every 3 levels.

I can fill the tank/healer/dd spots with ilvl75+ jobs, and yet I'm quite broke.

You are quite right that those who did not focus a lick on saving gil should not be complaining about being broke. What a majority of players are actually asking for is to be rewarding for playing something other than the AH. If you play 4hrs a day, no matter what you are doing, there should be some amount of gil+ at the end of that time. See my post above this for a list of activities that net 0 gil.

I feel asking for some gil reward for activities that focus on gear advancement is not at all unreasonable.


Edited, Dec 27th 2013 10:58am by Gnu

Yes, yes and yes.

I think you have convinced me it's time to bust out my scythe (Botanist not DRK) and level it up to start contributing. I know the guys in our FC who are comfortable with their gear levels have been focusing on Maps pretty much every night.

28 botanist now. What level do I need for the good maps? 40+ right?

I guess GC books and then Gathering Leves is the fastest way to lvl Botanist that I know of. Sound right?