The economy is grinding to a haltFollow

The mid-range armor sets are still making decent money if you can consistently punch out HQ versions. I do agree with you however that materia and food costs have both dropped significantly in the last week or so. I'd level your clothcrafting first and then go back to culinarian...for the time being you'd probably generate more money that way.

It is interesting if the economy is grinding to a halt now that there is actually some incentive to keep your equipment up to date as a battle class (dungeon leveling being superior to FATE leveling).

Prices should be dropping over-time which is a completely natural phenomenon but that should be accompanied by an increase in demand.

Edited, Dec 23rd 2013 5:19pm by Hyanmen

I would not buy up the t4 materia as GNU suggests as he is un aware of the other materia changes that were made.

1) i51+ sbs faster
2) can get teir +1 materia now (aka a i45 item can get t3 or t4)
3) increased the rate of obtained t4 (prev was around 10-15% on i55)

All buying it up will do is lead to a surpluss of materia that is worth less in 2 weeks than it is now.

With the introduction of iLVL 80 armor, the only craftable endgame gear (which was already a only partially better than DL) got destroyed too. I also can't even give away HQ pvp weapons, even though PVP was supposed to be a boom to crafting, as you can easily purchase better PVP weapons and armor with credits.

Edited, Dec 23rd 2013 11:27am by Louiscool

Selling stuff Fri-Mon tends to invite less profit due to more people playing/flooding the market, too. But the general sentiment of crafted goods not being too hot in demand isn't really far off. /brokenrecordcraftingneedsbettergearandyoshineedstostopfearingrmtrant

Right on thanks for the info. We will see what happens. :D

Looks like Materia normally going for 50k+ is down to 12k on our server.

No way Materia IV going to stay at 12K. There is just too much time even invested in producing Materia IV even with it now coming from T3 equip and the rate increase. The demand is gonna be highest for IV going forward. The point is, SOMEONE is going to buy up the cheap stuff and mark it up. At a 400% potential mark-up rate.

i80 gear is different than i80jewlery which is what i was talking about, even then its 1 piece a week and here is the stat break down:

wrist:
crafted i70 9 str/dex/6 det/12acc --- optimal meld (debatable) 10 vit - 9 crit - 9 sks
DL 9 str/6det/12crit
inferno (i80) - 13 str / 11 crit / 16 acc

So my i70 wrist costs me 4 str and 2 crit., but gives me 10 vit and 9 sks, 6 det. Yes I am cute, 4 str is pretty close to 3, so pardon me on that one and accept my humble internet apology.

So there i looked it up, its not BIS for absolutely STR build, but it is a dam good choice. And im not at 4.2k. my monk is at 5k hp with i90 left and i70 right side, but nice try again bro!


As far as the rest of your bs full post....

You realize they changed recipies for ToP crafted items? You might want to check that, cause your shouldnt be using 18 anymore bro.

Wow I cant wait to log on later tier 4 has been at a steady 50k each if it gets below 20k on my server I'm going to clear the boards. Vanya HQ pants I paid 3 million for a few months ago is down to under 400k since the patch. At least I still have about a hundred cracked materia I'm saving for quick money in the far future.

Level 80 armor isn't going to destroy the armor economy on account of the 1-item-per-week CT lockout. The issue is, most people who would have bought and melded that stuff have already done so, and the ones who are just now finishing up the story and prepping for end game are much less likely to worry about the mix-maxing of Gryphonskin vs. Darklight and what not.

End game food still does pretty well. Sells for cheaper now, but sells more consistently too, so it's a wash. Thanks to some things requiring earlier mats, there's also a small market improvement for earlier cookinarian stuff (i.e. Walnut Bread because it's used in both a triple turn-in and as a base ingredient for La Noscean Toast).

Pvp gear flooded the markets early on and you could make good money with it then, but it's pretty much bottomed out for now. You want that starter gear unless you're in full i90 stuff; it takes quite a few matches before you can snag a piece of pvp gear, so the starter stuff is a nice addition.

High-level mats still do well. Darksteel nuggets and Twinthread are down relative to before, but still sell at a profit, and relatively often (at least on my server). I imagine Rose Gold and other high level stuff is about the same. If anything, the changes to spiritbonding have made for a better Gsmith market at the end game because more people will want accessories to bind with. Running two or three CT's is usually enough to bind a full set of five accessories, and if you're in a mix of DL and AF2 then you're totally fine taking the ilvl hit by using spiritbind gear.

I doubt materia prices will recover. The level 4 materia rewards from the storyline really wrecked that market. Level 3 still does ok on account of it being needed for relics, but it's taken a hit too. Still, I can get more for a battledance 3 than I can for a battledance 4. Which is hilarious.

Things are still in flux. It's only been a week, but I'm starting to see stuff calm down a bit. Housing materials and items should start to see more traction once people actually can afford houses. There is currently one house on Leviathan right now, and it's a small in Mist, right next to the beach. There are maybe a dozen or so items in the house and on the lot. Once larger plots are sold and people get all OCD about house design that should be a prime market, if not for finished items than for materials.

Selling tomes or other endgame items, I presume?

My crafting linkshell was talking about it - our server is a bit smaller than some of the others, so things are affecting us more than on some of the bigger servers where there is just more overall participation in the market economy.

I have my secrets ;)

"craftable endgame gear" is not a term that magically excludes accessories.


It's not as huge as you seem to be making it out to be. ilvl70 accessories are not all magically dead. Some of those ilvl70 accessories were, and some still are, better than ilvl90 counterparts. Take Gryphonskin Wristbands or Ring for Bard as an example. In 95% of all sensible situations I'd use them over allagan. Even now with the new primal accessories, I'll still be using my Gryphonskin Wristbands at the very least until I eventually get the drop from Ifrit Extreme.

And just to really point out the problem of the crux of what you're saying: People don't go instantly from artifact to BiS gear. Crafted ilvl70 gear, especially accessories, is a great way to fill the gap.

Edited, Dec 24th 2013 6:01pm by Deadgye