Dont know how many have seen this or if its been posted.. But I thought I would post. Its pretty recent. Enjoy! ..Or don't?
http://www.dualshockers.com/2013/04/12/interview-naoki-yoshida-final-fantasy-xiv/
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Worldless structures? :O
I'm glad they're not doing that just yet.
Yoshi-P wrote:
We are not planning to have Final Fantasy XIV appear on Steam at release
Square Enix... get it together.
Killua125 wrote:
Yoshi-P wrote:
We are not planning to have Final Fantasy XIV appear on Steam at release
Square Enix... get it together.
Whether or not we can get this on Steam is the least of my concerns. Steam is cool and all....but being required to launch games through a platform can sometimes be irritating. Battlefield 3 anyone? Yuck. I prefer the days of install, click icon, play.
Killua125 wrote:
Yoshi-P wrote:
We are not planning to have Final Fantasy XIV appear on Steam at release
Square Enix... get it together.
Have you not seen the mess they have made with FFXI via Steam?
RampagingAnts wrote:
Have you not seen the mess they have made with FFXI via Steam?
That would support my point, but no - I'm not aware of it.
electromagnet83 wrote:
Whether or not we can get this on Steam is the least of my concerns. Steam is cool and all....but being required to launch games through a platform can sometimes be irritating. Battlefield 3 anyone? Yuck. I prefer the days of install, click icon, play.
Steam release is a pretty big deal for new PC games/sales. Tons of gamers make all their PC game purchases through Steam.
A lot of gamers also just look at Steam for news on upcoming releases, so even ARR being on the 'coming soon' list is huge advertising.
Bad move.
Edited, Apr 23rd 2013 2:35pm by Killua125
From another interview here:
I'm not sure what expensive means, either requirements wise or the cut they take...
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Nova Crystallis: In regards to the PC version, will there be a Steam client available?
Yoshida: We won’t be supporting that one. They’re pretty expensive.
Yoshida: We won’t be supporting that one. They’re pretty expensive.
I'm not sure what expensive means, either requirements wise or the cut they take...
Probably the 30% Steam takes from sales.
George Carlin wrote:
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lolgaxe wrote:
Probably the 30% Steam takes from sales.
Holy **** it's 30%? Man I'd say F steam too.
I think it varies depending on the game, but it must end up being worth it with every major game release being sold on Steam.
The website has a huge user base and like I said, just being put on sale there is tons of advertising, specifically to hordes of PC gamers, that they probably aren't going to get anywhere else.
I just can't comprehend not doing a Steam release for this.
Edited, Apr 23rd 2013 2:54pm by Killua125
The website has a huge user base and like I said, just being put on sale there is tons of advertising, specifically to hordes of PC gamers, that they probably aren't going to get anywhere else.
I just can't comprehend not doing a Steam release for this.
Edited, Apr 23rd 2013 2:54pm by Killua125
Killua125 wrote:
I think it varies depending on the game, but it must end up being worth it with every major game release being sold on Steam.
The website has a huge user base and like I said, just being put on sale there is tons of advertising, specifically to hordes of PC gamers, that they probably aren't going to get anywhere else.
I just can't comprehend not doing a Steam release for this.
Edited, Apr 23rd 2013 2:54pm by Killua125
The website has a huge user base and like I said, just being put on sale there is tons of advertising, specifically to hordes of PC gamers, that they probably aren't going to get anywhere else.
I just can't comprehend not doing a Steam release for this.
Edited, Apr 23rd 2013 2:54pm by Killua125
If we assume a steam release would increase their sales and playerbase by at least 30%, I'd have to agree Killua. I hope the decision not to release it through steam was come to through a scientific means and not just an assumption that they won't make as much money in the long run some how.
Killua125 wrote:
RampagingAnts wrote:
Have you not seen the mess they have made with FFXI via Steam?
That would support my point, but no - I'm not aware of it.
electromagnet83 wrote:
Whether or not we can get this on Steam is the least of my concerns. Steam is cool and all....but being required to launch games through a platform can sometimes be irritating. Battlefield 3 anyone? Yuck. I prefer the days of install, click icon, play.
Steam release is a pretty big deal for new PC games/sales. Tons of gamers make all their PC game purchases through Steam.
A lot of gamers also just look at Steam for news on upcoming releases, so even ARR being on the 'coming soon' list is huge advertising.
Bad move.
Edited, Apr 23rd 2013 2:35pm by Killua125
steam did $hit a brick with XI! Was pissed after downloading it and spending a day trying to log on! Their not that great with other games 2. Empire total war "I bought the hard disk" but I was still prompted by steam to do a digital download! 6 hrs! Googled how bypass it in my second hr so the CD install only took minutes. As you see I'm not to thrilled on steam!
I can't actually remember the last PC game I bought that WASN'T through Steam.
Cut or no cut, not having a Steam release is a huge misstep.
Cut or no cut, not having a Steam release is a huge misstep.
svlyons wrote:
If random outcomes aren't acceptable to you, then don't play with random people.
Steam really takes a 30 percent cut?
Wow.
The client for people who never bought version 1 is only going to cost like $40, right? That's like $20 cheaper than any other new AAA title nowadays.
There's the cut that would normally go toward Steam. I like the trade though, if that means everyone gets the game at a cheaper price.
Wow.
The client for people who never bought version 1 is only going to cost like $40, right? That's like $20 cheaper than any other new AAA title nowadays.
There's the cut that would normally go toward Steam. I like the trade though, if that means everyone gets the game at a cheaper price.
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Thayos wrote:
Steam really takes a 30 percent cut?
Wow.
The client for people who never bought version 1 is only going to cost like $40, right? That's like $20 cheaper than any other new AAA title nowadays.
There's the cut that would normally go toward Steam. I like the trade though, if that means everyone gets the game at a cheaper price.
Wow.
The client for people who never bought version 1 is only going to cost like $40, right? That's like $20 cheaper than any other new AAA title nowadays.
There's the cut that would normally go toward Steam. I like the trade though, if that means everyone gets the game at a cheaper price.
Not sure about that. At least on Amazon the price is $29.99. I am aware that may just be a placeholder however...
Thayos wrote:
Steam really takes a 30 percent cut?
Wow.
The client for people who never bought version 1 is only going to cost like $40, right? That's like $20 cheaper than any other new AAA title nowadays.
There's the cut that would normally go toward Steam. I like the trade though, if that means everyone gets the game at a cheaper price.
Wow.
The client for people who never bought version 1 is only going to cost like $40, right? That's like $20 cheaper than any other new AAA title nowadays.
There's the cut that would normally go toward Steam. I like the trade though, if that means everyone gets the game at a cheaper price.
I think you probably shouldn't take that information at face value from an anonymous forum user, but I would assume it's a very sizable cut. You have to consider the advertising and sales produced in exchange. If Square Enix offered their game through Steam, they would boost the quality of the game with higher populations, and a lot of people consider Steam very convenient.
I highly doubt price being under $60 is a result or 'trade off' of not being on Steam. The decision is simply a bad one. Less people will know about the game, less people will buy it, less people will be playing due to no Steam release.
Edited, Apr 23rd 2013 4:44pm by Killua125
What they may do is try to get all the initial full price box sales they can, and once the initial surge is done, THEN put it on Steam to try to capture the rest of the folks. I'd say six months, probably about the same timeframe they plan to roll out the DX11 client for high end systems.
It also means Steam gets a slightly more polished product, since there will inevitably be a few bugs that slipped past beta.
It also means Steam gets a slightly more polished product, since there will inevitably be a few bugs that slipped past beta.
Catwho wrote:
What they may do is try to get all the initial full price box sales they can, and once the initial surge is done, THEN put it on Steam to try to capture the rest of the folks. I'd say six months, probably about the same timeframe they plan to roll out the DX11 client for high end systems.
It also means Steam gets a slightly more polished product, since there will inevitably be a few bugs that slipped past beta.
It also means Steam gets a slightly more polished product, since there will inevitably be a few bugs that slipped past beta.
WHAT??? Did I miss something? Is that really happening?
I had a steam account... It got hacked. I started a new one, but I will never play an MMO through Steam after what happened... Not worth the risk.
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Wow someone really hates Steam... rated the whole thread down.
That definitely sucks and it's a legit concern. But for MMOs, Steam is pretty much just a purchasing platform. I don't think Steam handles the DRM for MMOs. At least I'm pretty sure it doesn't for The Secret World or FFXI.
Quote:
I had a steam account... It got hacked. I started a new one, but I will never play an MMO through Steam after what happened... Not worth the risk.
That definitely sucks and it's a legit concern. But for MMOs, Steam is pretty much just a purchasing platform. I don't think Steam handles the DRM for MMOs. At least I'm pretty sure it doesn't for The Secret World or FFXI.
svlyons wrote:
If random outcomes aren't acceptable to you, then don't play with random people.
electromagnet83 wrote:
Catwho wrote:
What they may do is try to get all the initial full price box sales they can, and once the initial surge is done, THEN put it on Steam to try to capture the rest of the folks. I'd say six months, probably about the same timeframe they plan to roll out the DX11 client for high end systems.
It also means Steam gets a slightly more polished product, since there will inevitably be a few bugs that slipped past beta.
It also means Steam gets a slightly more polished product, since there will inevitably be a few bugs that slipped past beta.
WHAT??? Did I miss something? Is that really happening?
The DX11 client is confirmed for about six months after initial product release, yes.
Yoshi P is pretty good about not reneging on promises.
Catwho wrote:
electromagnet83 wrote:
Catwho wrote:
What they may do is try to get all the initial full price box sales they can, and once the initial surge is done, THEN put it on Steam to try to capture the rest of the folks. I'd say six months, probably about the same timeframe they plan to roll out the DX11 client for high end systems.
It also means Steam gets a slightly more polished product, since there will inevitably be a few bugs that slipped past beta.
It also means Steam gets a slightly more polished product, since there will inevitably be a few bugs that slipped past beta.
WHAT??? Did I miss something? Is that really happening?
The DX11 client is confirmed for about six months after initial product release, yes.
Yoshi P is pretty good about not reneging on promises.
So I'm not a super computer buff. What is the advantage of going DX11? I have it, I just don't know what it is doing for me. I know enough to understand specifics, but I don't know what those specifics are.
IKickYoDog wrote:
Catwho wrote:
electromagnet83 wrote:
Catwho wrote:
What they may do is try to get all the initial full price box sales they can, and once the initial surge is done, THEN put it on Steam to try to capture the rest of the folks. I'd say six months, probably about the same timeframe they plan to roll out the DX11 client for high end systems.
It also means Steam gets a slightly more polished product, since there will inevitably be a few bugs that slipped past beta.
It also means Steam gets a slightly more polished product, since there will inevitably be a few bugs that slipped past beta.
WHAT??? Did I miss something? Is that really happening?
The DX11 client is confirmed for about six months after initial product release, yes.
Yoshi P is pretty good about not reneging on promises.
So I'm not a super computer buff. What is the advantage of going DX11? I have it, I just don't know what it is doing for me. I know enough to understand specifics, but I don't know what those specifics are.
Relatively few games use it yet. You would have to look it up to see what its does for the graphics to understand but it can basically gives real textures to things. At least that is one thing I have seen.
Archmage Callinon wrote:
Wow someone really hates Steam... rated the whole thread down.
It was more than 1 person lol.
I don't like Steam, personally. But I also wasn't rating everyone down about it. But my hate for Steam arises from the independent developers side more than the gamers' side. (But I also don't like applications that try to force its way to opening up when I start my computer, either.)
I also like opening games out of my desktop, I don't want Steam managing my games for me. Maybe I'm just old school.
As for S-E, I think FFXIV not being on Steam probably arises out of their relationship with FFXI. From what I understand, they couldn't get Seekers of Adoulin due to technical difficulties on Steam and had to discount people who bought it from there. And they don't want to go through that same mess with ARR.
So, it's not just S-E that should be getting it together. It should be Valve that should be getting it together. Or maybe both?
I also like opening games out of my desktop, I don't want Steam managing my games for me. Maybe I'm just old school.
As for S-E, I think FFXIV not being on Steam probably arises out of their relationship with FFXI. From what I understand, they couldn't get Seekers of Adoulin due to technical difficulties on Steam and had to discount people who bought it from there. And they don't want to go through that same mess with ARR.
So, it's not just S-E that should be getting it together. It should be Valve that should be getting it together. Or maybe both?
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