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Im still a bit confused

#1 Jan 28 2013 at 11:56 PM Rating: Excellent
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Wint wrote:
FilthMcNasty wrote:
Wint wrote:
Hyrist wrote:
There is not a single valid reason on this green earth why they should wipe out existing characters when they have the option for players who want to start fresh to start on clean servers.

Period.

Anyone who thinks they should is very, very selfish and short-sighted.


This.

This seems a bit redundant. New players don't have any other option but starting fresh and older players could have started fresh on new servers in 1.0 version. Yes, I am very selfish and perhaps often short-sighted, but if you can't see the fact that people wanting to keep old character data also causes issues for the game, you're a bit of a hypocrite.


So even though they're making it so old players can't move to "fresh" servers, you think this is a bad thing some how?

No, I actually think it would be a good thing.

Wint wrote:
The only issues I can see by letting people keep their existing characters are

a) gil. Which they're doing something about.
b) equipment that may not make it to 2.0. Which they also already fixed in the patches for 1.0 (hence the "dated" gear).
c) Profile data merging into the new database. They also seem to have thought of this since it's part of a beta phase.

So no, I don't see how this makes me a hypocrite?


d) The level difference between old and new players which creates an artificial barrier between these communities.

Gear and gil advantages aside(since that's what the first 3 deal with and could probably all be lumped together), this one alone would probably be one of the biggest issues for me as a 'new' player. We'd all hope that XIV has a huge swell of players coming in when ARR hits because we all know that the numbers will eventually sink a bit and level out. If the new wave isn't large enough you'll end up with established players who are already through with endgame content that launches with ARR or shortly after, then the remaining newer players who are left out in the cold. The only way it evens out is if there's enough of a gap between release and subsequent content that newer players are allowed to catch beforehand. If not, the cycle repeats.

Hyrist is saying that it's selfish to want everyone to start off on the same level, but it could be argued that it's fair. You could just as easily say it's selfish for people who already got a 'head start' with what they do retain from 1.0 to want to keep it, but I'm sure those who are high level would argue that they deserve it for the effort they put in.

There are valid arguments to be made from both sides. The other side of the coin doesn't support his personal position, but isn't it a bit short-sighted to ignore the fact that they're valid? Not trying to name call here with the hypocrite thing, but it is what it is.

Hyrist wrote:
Players want that feeling of continuity in what they do, which is why continuing characters is very important. Denying them that is just going to uninvest them from the game, and speaking buisness, you don't want to do that in a subscription enviroment.

Satire?

You call for continuity in a game that failed miserably and needed to be completely rebuilt from the ground up. Not only that, but you try to drive it on what makes good business sense? You can't possibly be talking about SE and FFXIV.

Edited, Jan 29th 2013 1:17am by FilthMcNasty
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Its personal preference and all, but yes we need to educate WoW players that this is OUR game, these are Characters and not Toons. Time to beat that into them one at a time.
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