When is realm reborn release?Follow

Yeah a lot has improved. but 2.0 is not set to be released till January 2013. The servers shut down on November 11th. Which means no one can play FFXIV anymore until 2.0 release, unless you get into beta which is not saved anyway. HOWEVER! Game stops saving on november 1st... so no point in playing past november 1st lol. You grind our those last few levels after the 1st and before 11th to get to 50 and get some awesome weapon? Too bad it is gone and you willl have to do it again once 2.0 is released.

Oh well... I move to FFXI as i await 2.0. I just wish 2.0 would hurry up.

It is, but only until November 1st. Your character stats items etc as of 11/1/2012 is what is carried over, anything obtained from 11/2 and on will not be carried over to ARR.

Ty for fast and clear reply,will wait some more then :)

cheers

Cool. So basically if I grind to level 50 before Nov 1st (10 more levels to go) I will have a level 50 character in 2.0, if I understand it correctly.

So they're going to effectively shut down the game from November 1st till the January release date? If you can't progress in some way, there's no real reason to play. If there's no reason to play, the game is more or less shut down for two months.

If true, I have no words to describe this absurdity. I can understand transferring characters takes time, but 2 months? This could be done with ease over a period of a week or two (assuming the data structure is coded halfway decently). They'd be essentially moving a whole lot of variables from one server to another. Man, SE just seems incapable of giving people what they want.

No, its going to take them a month. It could be done much much sooner. You could argue SE simply doesn't have the resources to do it. But that wouldn't hold much water. They've had plenty of resources to get 2.0 going, plenty of resources to keep 1.0 going and plenty of resources to keep FFXI going. Not to mention develop other games. If this was a small 10 guys in a basement company, sure I could see it. SE is not 10 guys in a basement.



Actually, you don't understand. Though, its hardly your fault. You see, I bailed on FFXIV about halfway through beta when I realized that SE wasn't going to do anything to change a number of aspects about the game that I disliked. Not only me, but the community as a whole. We all disliked them -- or at least the vast majority did. I suppose there are those out there that liked the UI.

I'm not offended on a personal level by this. In truth it doesn't effect me at all. I re-subbed for WoW when MoP hit. No, I'm offended because this is the same old SE doing the same old routine. "We can't do it because of X." PS2 limitations (which were somehow solved later), PS3 limitations (remember when they said they'd release FFXIV on the PC and PS3 at the same time? Oops.), and finally PC limitations: We can't make the UI better because then your computer couldn't run our game. Uh wha? Every other MMORPG does it just fine.



Hey, if you and others are wiling to wait, more power to you. I'm glad someone out there thinks this game is worth all the headaches. I gave up on SE after FFXIV (and to a lesser extent FFXIII). I actually game here tonight to see if there was a release date for a game that I was sorta kinda maybe considering looking into. Time makes memories fade. I thought, "Hey, maybe SE has finally changed. Maybe they'll start treating customers like customers."

On the plus side, I relearned an old truism: People don't change. Or in this case, companies run by people don't change.

Edit: tags.

Edited, Oct 22nd 2012 2:33am by Caia

Yeah, I don't see how you can say SE is not treating their customers like customers. They are not sitting back there going "Teeheehee... waiting 2 months for 2.0 will REALLY get them riled up eh?" It is not their intention to annoy customers and they can hardly afford to... but some things must be done. Like the post above me says, yeah, they can get 2.0 out much much quicker if they were just copying data and giving it to us. However, they want to do beta tests and let players try 2.0 so they know if they gave the players what they want to make 2.0 launch successful. And the fact that SE reworked the game and are trying to keep it alive for its fans is tremendous on their part... I know, I know... They are trying to keep it alive so they can line their pocketbooks, etc... That is true. They do not want to go under with this game so they are going to do all they can to push it into profit zone. But at the same time they do not want to lose fan base. They already have (a lot) but they took the initiative to reconcile their mistakes. Good for them.

thank you someone who knows what they are talking about. a lot of people seem to think they know how technology works, but in reality is far more complexe than they think. I'm not trying to be mean, but that's the way it is.

I have to agree with you catwho, they are most likely moving to a different database structure. Hopefully a much better one. Besides, i don't mind the wait for ARR. Ive gotten just about everything i wanted to do done before ARR, and i would like nothing more than for them to get it right this time. Since ive been back, the game feels a lot more final fantasy than when the game was released, and when we do get to log back in i have a feeling this game is going to give us that same feeling as the first time we loaded up FFXI. Minus the whole starting at level 1.

Edited, Oct 22nd 2012 11:10pm by Keysofgaruda

Simple version: Two months is far too long for a company of SE's size to move all the data from one server to another. That's two months of no progression for anyone.

To those saying its a complicated process: I'm not disagreeing. However, its isn't so complicated that it couldn't be done considerably sooner. Yes, moving data from one database to another with different structures is a pain. No doubt. But the pain is programming the computers to do this properly, not that actual data move. I can understand them taking their time to develop a program that does this with minimal data corruption (or ideally none at all). What I can't understand is why the move itself should take any more than a couple of days.

Wint: If this were anyone besides SE I'd give them the benefit of the doubt and let them take their time. But FFXIV took how many years to produce? And we got a game so bad that they had to reinvent large portions of it. SE taking their time hardly means that they're doing it right.

Frankly I'm shocked and a bit saddened that you've all become so used to being treated so poorly that this kind of thing gets a hand wave.

Edit: Grammar. Always with the grammar. Stupid commas! /sigh

Edited, Oct 24th 2012 7:08pm by Caia

I think we just look at different things then. I don't give SE a hand wave because I've been treated badly, the situation here would get the same respons from me no matter what company did it. I find it funny however that you have just gathered so much dissapointment towards SE that you think something that isn't an issue if any other company would have done it, is an issue because SE is doing it.

Either way though, what I look at with this server transfer and relaunch is quality. Now even if this transfer can take a couple of days like you claim that would be fine, but you know what... there is no way I would want ARR to launch Nov 3rd or w/e it would be anyway. Simply because SE hasn't alpha/beta tested the game enough by then.

I wouldn't mind servers staying up longer so I could play 1.0 while waiting for 2.0 if I felt like it, but I don't want ARR to be released until it is ready which I don't believe will be Nov because of lack of testing. So basically if what you say is true about the speed of transfers and SE did it your way the difference would be that I could play 1.0 up until two days before relaunch which would still be at the same date as it is set to be now (w/e that is).

So basically, assuming you are right in your claims maybe that way might be the absolute optimal solution for current players who care about playing a few months more (depends on if it would have any negative effects to SE which would affect the development of ARR which we don't know).

Personally however I don't feel confident enough in my technical skills to make any assumptions myself and honestly I think SE knows better than you do in this case (whether they can't transfer faster or if they do it slower for other reasons) as to what is the best way to reach ARR asap and in a solid state. If that happens to be false and you are right, then the difference between the two solutions is too small for me to even care anyway because it doesn't really affect me and in the grand scheme of things I doubt it has any effect on ARR success.

Edited, Oct 25th 2012 8:16am by Belcrono

For the record, there is something wrong, there is a reason why the game is being remade...

Aside from that though a lot of people might be having fun still, but personally I have done everything I wanted to do before 2.0. I did the story, got a few jobs to 50 got far enough in a craft to the point where I got bored and I've done all battles except hard mode Van Darnus and I am a casual player. Since the game isn't really being updated with any content anymore there is more or less no reason for me to keep playing because I would have no fun. I could level another job to 50, but I'd rather save it for ARR and see what 1-50 journey is like there. I know a lot of people who feel the same.

The game isn't being updated anymore and so I got bored. Usually this would be wrong, but since we are waiting for ARR it feels like the right way to do it. Partly because the resurces go into ARR instead and partly because this way people get a chance to complete the content that exists and not feel like there were things that got updated near the end and people didn't have time to do it before it dissapeared. Of course this leads to a bit of a stagnation and boredom for those who have already completed things which is why I personally don't care if it shuts down now or in two months time. Again, if it is the best way to get ARR quickly and in a solid state I am all for it.

EDIT: Just want to mention that of course not everyone playing feels this way, I am just explaining my thought process from my perspective as to why I don't think accpeting SE's decision this time means I just give SE a free pass to do w/e just beacuse I am used to their bs.

Edited, Oct 25th 2012 11:47am by Belcrono