FINAL FANTASY XIV ONLINE!?! WHAAAT!? (was fjob=2)Follow

Ha! I posted this in the wrong forum in the excitement/worry =P but discuss anyway if you like lmao.

Edited, Jun 2nd 2009 3:41pm by Diamondis

No real point in sticking with set jobs/classes anyway. Why not just allow you to develop skills/stats directly, without constraint of a preset "class".

Jobs are a dated concept IMO, especially for an MMO. Let players develop their character according to how they play it.

I like the job system. But it would be nice if they allowed for some customization, something like what you get in Diablo 2, and not just something like our merit system where you've got 1-2 cookie cutter ways to do things.

Thing with Diablo 2 was that you were not able to move skill allocations around once you placed them, but in return, Diablo 2 characters were also a lot easier to build up to a decent level/quest progress so you were free to try out a number of builds. With a game like FFXI, and FF14 if it's any similar, I don't think most people would be keen on having to redo levels, quests, missions, and all that sh*t over and over again for each build they want to try >_>

What do you mean by "get RDM right"? RDM is a great job, one of the best and I think it's been "right" for about 5 years.

If there were no jobs there would be no diversity. Everyone would be the optimal "spec" for whatever role they play. It would be boring.

I don't think it'd kill the spirit of FF at all. I know people hate when these games are brought up, but when I think of a game without defined jobs, I think of FFs VII-VIII, or more specifically, the Materia and Junction systems associated. Other examples include FFX and FFXII. The characters had semi recognizable abilities hearkening back to classic installments, but the AP and License concepts allowed them to branch out.

Ideally, in this sort of play, you can't immediately /check a character and say "Oh, he's a RDM, he better be ready with my Refresh/Haste/Cure!" You can't instantly see a PLD and pass him up because you decide you want a NIN's shadows(which, as Seriha said, is something I hope S-E learned from), or instantly recognize a THF and pass him up for perceived lack of damage. It's possible, over time, to identify by armor, but if(like this game), multiple armor types look alike, that's not set in stone. Players will then have to discern others on a less broad basis.

When you don't immediately have a frame to put someone in(the frame being a specific class), it becomes less about what they are and more about what they can do.

Edited, Jun 2nd 2009 3:25pm by SunriderRagnarok

Well, at its core, I don't want to have 20 alts to play 20 jobs. Or more if specs get too diverse and options for reassigning become too much of a hassle. There's also the consideration of time sinks and what we know of SE, as getting one Ridill is bad enough, let alone 5 for your account if that's how things pan out.

Really, I want a variety of abilities. I've long since criticized that we, as players, do very little to interact with the game. Our play is more reactive than proactive as we watch HP bars diminish to Cure, hit a WS macro when TP hits 100%, and not really care about anything else in between as play is more 6v1 than 6v6+. I know that's a bit generalized and doesn't 100% apply to RDM, but to stress the emphasis of RDM's failure as a unique class, you only need to look as far as the melee debate. A job does not live up to concept when people look at you googly-eyed when you try to exercise that.

Content is relative and I know some love the backline, but their will isn't mine or anyone else. I value options that aren't compromised right off the bat. You can't deny that's not the case for us with a lack of traits, lower skill levels, and even a shortage of JAs. We get a bit on the spell side to compensate, but they're not particularly unique when you figure that other melee should be getting Haste, won't be stuck in casting animations, and so on.

I believe it's more of RDM, and most jobs in general, having choices in role instead of pigeonholing.

But that's more of a playerbase thing.

Right now I'm going to guess that they're moving to a more free form system like most of the recent FFs have been using.

I like jobs personally, gives variety. I would like it if a) you can job change again, and b) some sort of variety, whether this is the sub-class system or some sort of system to use individual abilities of other jobs you have leveled.

I like set jobs as well as far as they will do it different, so we wont get OP jobs or best jobs for a job so other jobs get obsolete.

I remember when 80% of the DPS polulation was RNG, lets not go there again.

Edited, Jun 3rd 2009 5:33pm by Broophy

So do you think that means we'll see a more ffx style job system where we can customize our characters taking iconic traights from various ff jobs or will it be a more traditional job system done in a new way? Its a very cryptic remark from them.

It sounds nice in theory but needing balance in an mmorpg always constricts these types of concepts