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Would this be a good spec for a level 50 Saracen Infiltrator?

Saracen Infiltrator Level 50

32 Thrust
01 Slash
50 Critical Strike
50 Stealth
02 Dual Wield
35 Envenom

Aye 35 is as high as you need to bring stealth. at RR5 you can have an effective level 50 stealth, and mythic has explained over and over that there are NO benefits of having stealth above 50.

Increase Dual Wield it determines how often you will attack with second weapon

DW is worth points, it's the average that you'll hit your target with your offhand weapon. Which can come in handy if your using poisons on both weapons and of course the extra damage. I have 33 CD (which is DW in hibernia) on my nightshade and the amount that I hit with my offhand helps a ton while fighting.

Also, going 50 CS isn't really worth the points, it will raise your damage cap, but you won't really see that much of a benefit. At level 44 in CS you'll get Rib Seperation, and some nice damage on your CS styles, that will help you raise your DW a bit. I would say 20ish would be the lowest I would take DW.

Yes, it will.

CD/DW/LA ect influence how often you hit with two hands. If you have poison on both weapons, of course thats going to influence how fast your poison gets to your target.

The sooner your poisons land on their target the more damage you will do, the sooner they will be debuffed ect.

Edited, Thu Oct 28 18:57:10 2004 by Lasraik

The new flavor for infs are briton slash infs. It's a better line. With better artifacts.

Slash stealthers in general are uber, keen slasher shades are also uber and norse dual axe SBs hit a ton. It's very easy to mod str, and each armor class has it's weakness to something, but it shouldn't be the ultimate determiner of the spec line you choose. One current trend is the blunt shar BMs, but only 2 classes wear armor that is weak to crush dmg, yet a blunt spec BM still hits like a truck. It's how you play, set up and mod your toon that determines how well they preform in any combat RvR or PvE. Infs are on the same dmg table as champions and skalds, there's a reason why an Inf can melee down even well set up tank. Given that slash hits much harder than pierce, do the math and its clear a slash type inf will hit hard as hell. A slash type inf will hit harder than a pierce type, the pierce type will generally merely hit a dash faster.

Edited, Thu Nov 4 01:45:20 2004 by Sushas

lol yup i get where you're coming from =p but a well set up Sb can be uber, in DF with heroine I came across a dual axe rr6 sb, regardless of her being buffed out the ears, she hit really really hard. I was buffed with Cloak of the Firestorm proc which gives a nice str/con buff taking my hits to around 1900. I only landed like 2 hits which only took her to down to 76%, she evaded everything else then used vanish so she perf me for a 2nd time because i went moose because bing my dumb self i didn't pay attention to the fact she slapped disease on me which negated my ip =| after having purged and gone moose after she had taken me to 32% health is when she used her vanish. waited until moose was over then perfed again and pwned me =| fully buffed infs have done the same tactics to me in DF and they didn't do near the dmg she did to me on top of or even really come that close to defeating me. Something about her set up just made her uber as hell and down right pwned my *** =p

To the SB norse chick that worked me in DF last month out by rocots near tempters hib side /salute /curtsey that was some impressive stuff you pulled, you did everything perfectly, I'd like to do it again sometime <grin> =p

Edited, Thu Nov 4 23:50:37 2004 by Sushas

nah, u didnt gimp yer self. in the end it doesnt matter what race u r, cuz ull be eatin **** from any1 above rr5 till ur rr5. but, id rather roll a sb cuz they can be kobolds, so cute!

You won't be getting rolled that bad really, because as an Infiltrator you have a spec point advantage. You'll compete against other stealthers that are a couple realm ranks above you once you get familiar with your character and know how to use your styles.

First and foremost! Its has nearly been completely proven that having over a 51 composite weapon spec(ie: anything over 36+15 at rr 5L0) does next to nothing for you. it will not increase weapon skill at all, though it shows an increase on your status screan that increase realy doesn't happen. More over since any competative inf will use mainly CS styles(ie PA, CD, garrote, achilles) your Style dmg is based entirely off CD spec. leaving the only real reason to go 50 thrust to get dragon fang, however with the recent nerf of dragon fang( droped from 9second stun to 5second stun) that is even less of a gain in the end.

A realy worth while spec would be: 35 stealth 35 env. 36 thrust 50 crit and 31 DW, and thats with out autoing if i am not mistaken.

And DW is a very good spec to have. When you increase your chance to hit with second weapon a number f things happen. First you obviously do better damage per hit by hitting with both hands. second you have a much better chance of having both of your posions going off faster. third, when you land a hit with both hands your reswing timer is set as:

(righthand spd+lefthand spd)/2

rather then just your right hand speed when you only hit with your main hand weapon. in turn this gives you a constant "haste effect" using a 4.1 and 3.0 weapon for instance you will swing at 4.1 with only main hand hits, but at 3.6 when both hands land. so it is easy to see why having DW high is beneficial.

most 50 NSs/SBs/Infs that i know only take CS to 36 and pierce or thrust to 50, and those who go for Spymaster ml10 respec envenom to 50 though you have to sacrifice melee for that, though as an inf it's not nearly as big of a problem. but 50 thrust/pierce is pretty much a must for high dmg

well i mentioned getting 50 envenom ONLY for if you're going for ml10 Spymaster, because if memory serves the ml10 ability for Spymaster requires you to have 50 envenom. as far as going 50 pierce/thrust that's just what i've been told from friends who are infs and shades, because they primarily use pierce and thrust styles after having perfed or backstabbed, because i guess they do higher dmg pierce styles when they are in a striaght fight, i'm not sure, just going from what i've been told =p but it makes sense in away when you consider per lvl in cs only gives you +9 dmg, and thrust/pierce (i don't remember what off-hand) is a bit higher =p <shrug> but i probably don't know what i'm talking about =p